Constance McMillian Not Invited to Makeshift Prom

[Master Baiter]

Apparently, she's not getting any support from her classmates who have shunned her.
The people have spoken, and this time, since it's a private event, there's no one to cry to.

http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=24662

 

[Angel77]

Why would she want to go to a prom with those backwards-ass people? Yeah, they may have spoken in that idiotic town but rest assured, they certainly don't speak for a majority of America (thank God). Now they can go back to having babies with their first cousins in peace.

Constance certainly will do well on her own without them and from the outpouring of support she is now getting worldwide, she's gonna be just fine.

 

[MrMacphisto]

On the one hand, attention whores are annoying.

On the other hand, it's equally annoying when officials and everyday citizens seem to love bothering people about their personal business.

All of this mess could have simply been avoided by letting two lesbians be themselves.

For a First World society, this country is so fucking idiotic about sexuality.

 

[Amnesiac]

For a First World society, this country is so fucking idiotic about sexuality
- Mr Macphisto

True, but in the philosophy of American traditionalism, that perspective of sexuality is one of the values that was integral to America's successful climb to the status of superpower. They think of it as sort of a by-proxy reward by a nepotistic god for obedience and resistance to evil.

Needless to say I don't ENDORSE that point-of-view...but if you were curious as to why its still around, I figured I'd list it.

 

[Master Baiter]

Why would she want to go to a prom with those backwards-ass people?

You'll have to ask her, but she wanted to go badly enough to file a lawsuit when the school district didn't bend the rules for her and her lesbian girlfriend.

Yeah, they may have spoken in that idiotic town but rest assured, they certainly don't speak for a majority of America (thank God).

But you do? "Majority of America?!" Care to back that ridiculously presumptuous statement up with some facts? Stating an opinion is fine, but don't pretend to know how "the majority of America" feels about this issue.

Now they can go back to having babies with their first cousins in peace.

No reply needed. Unbelievable.

Constance certainly will do well on her own without them and from the outpouring of support she is now getting worldwide, she's gonna be just fine.

She might do well, then again she might not. Only the shadow knows. I left my crystal ball back at the palace.
Outside of the GBLT crowd, I'm willing to guess mild amusement or outright mockery. Ellen tossed her 30 grand and a wink. Not too shabby for throwing a tantrum when you don't get your way.

(btw, a GBLT sounds great for lunch)

 

[MrMacphisto]

True, but in the philosophy of American traditionalism, that perspective of sexuality is one of the values that was integral to America's successful climb to the status of superpower. They think of it as sort of a by-proxy reward by a nepotistic god for obedience and resistance to evil.

Needless to say I don't ENDORSE that point-of-view...but if you were curious as to why its still around, I figured I'd list it.

Point taken, although I hope we can eventually evolve past that.

 

[MrMacphisto]

You'll have to ask her, but she wanted to go badly enough to file a lawsuit when the school district didn't bend the rules for her and her lesbian girlfriend.

There comes a point when the rules become painfully outdated. Generally speaking, it's more rational to amend said rules rather than risk the possibility of drawing a lot of negative publicity to your school.

At least, that's how reasonable management handles things.

But you do? "Majority of America?!" Care to back that ridiculously presumptuous statement up with some facts? Stating an opinion is fine, but don't pretend to know how "the majority of America" feels about this issue.

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption to believe that most Americans prefer not to bother others about their sexuality. Most younger people in particular are more open-minded about sexuality.

Granted, you may have a point here. Older people, especially in rural areas, tend to be less accepting of homosexuals. Also, religious fundamentalists tend not to be accepting either.

As cynical as I am though, I try to at least give Americans the credit of not being mostly ignorant homophobes, although I will concede that I may be wrong.

She might do well, then again she might not. Only the shadow knows. I left my crystal ball back at the palace.
Outside of the GBLT crowd, I'm willing to guess mild amusement or outright mockery. Ellen tossed her 30 grand and a wink. Not too shabby for throwing a tantrum when you don't get your way.

(btw, a GBLT sounds great for lunch)

Is there any particular reason you have an axe to grind against her? (pardon the phrasing)

 

[kis123]

There comes a point when the rules become painfully outdated. Generally speaking, it's more rational to amend said rules rather than risk the possibility of drawing a lot of negative publicity to your school.

At least, that's how reasonable management handles things.

Stated and answered by their cowardly behavior. They ain't changin' for no homos!! Good for them! Keep that head in the sand long enough and you'll suffocate, but you're standing on those good ol' principles right?

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption to believe that most Americans prefer not to bother others about their sexuality. Most younger people in particular are more open-minded about sexuality.

Granted, you may have a point here. Older people, especially in rural areas, tend to be less accepting of homosexuals. Also, religious fundamentalists tend not to be accepting either.

But they seem to have no problem with fornication do they? Many of these areas have high rates of teen pregnancy. But as long as they're not homosexual, everything is a-ok........whateves!

As cynical as I am though, I try to at least give Americans the credit of not being mostly ignorant homophobes, although I will concede that I may be wrong.

Yeah, hope springs eternal, doesn't it?? I've never understood why people have a bug in their shorts over it anyway. If you're not homosexual, why should you care about those who are? Unless...........

Is there any particular reason you have an axe to grind against her? (pardon the phrasing)

Between this and the reference to Lady Gaga as "it" (even after the hermaphrodite rumor was squashed), I've been asking myself the same thing. At the end of the day, people are entitled to their opinion no matter how much I vehemently disagree with it.

 

[Bohemianne]

At the end of the day, people are entitled to their opinion no matter how much I vehemently disagree with it.

LMAO! Freaking sentence of the week!

Now I fully understand what "critical thinking" can do even in remote places! This is the kind of phrase of a lady with good education!

 

[kis123]

LMAO! Freaking sentence of the week!

Now I fully understand what "critical thinking" can do even in remote places! This is the kind of phrase of a lady with good education!

Sometimes, critical thinking can develop a mass/mob mentality. People should think for themselves; it can prove refreshing change from some societal norms.

 

[Mister Scruff]

Apparently, she's not getting any support from her classmates who have shunned her.

To what end? Is she going to stop being a lesbian simply because people in her little hometown don't like it? Should she?

Whole thing stinks to high heaven, but then again I've got to ask; if this were two gay men, or two morbidly butch bull-dykes, as opposed to a pretty teenage lesbian and her pretty teenage girlfriend, would anyone care as much as they do? Is this incident really a freak one-off occurence in small town America?

 

[Bohemianne]

Kis, it simply goes like this. With all the grueling rebuttals around here on the topic, in the end you hold it with gait. It is levelheaded of you, in my POV.

 

[BellaRisa]

Uh...yeah

Ok...from what I've read and seen in the news about this story so far, including the article brought to our attention here: this girl chose to stand up for her rights as a gay person, and her school chose to cancel the event rather than update their antiquated rules. Some of her peers are angry with her because the school board canceled the the prom, so they didn't invite her to their private prom. At the local Furniture Mart

Meanwhile she's gotten support from all over the country, a $30,000 scholarship (!), and what's looking to be an amazing private prom at a fabulous place in New Orleans that neither she nor any of the rest of her peers will ever forget

Poor girl, she must cry herself to sleep ever' night over not being able to dance surrounded by futons and dinette sets...

 

[kis123]

Ok...from what I've read and seen in the news about this story so far, including the article brought to our attention here: this girl chose to stand up for her rights as a gay person, and her school chose to cancel the event rather than update their antiquated rules. Some of her peers are angry with her because the school board canceled the the prom, so they didn't invite her to their private prom. At the local Furniture Mart

Meanwhile she's gotten support from all over the country, a $30,000 scholarship (!), and what's looking to be an amazing private prom at a fabulous place in New Orleans that neither she nor any of the rest of her peers will ever forget

Poor girl, she must cry herself to sleep ever' night over not being able to dance surrounded by futons and dinette sets...

Ha!

I haven't been keeping up with this story but it looks like she'll be just fine. She did her part and whether her town likes it or not, they've been put on international blast. I hope this opens the door for realistic change in that town, but hope springs eternal huh???

 

[kis123]

Whole thing stinks to high heaven, but then again I've got to ask; if this were two gay men, or two morbidly butch bull-dykes, as opposed to a pretty teenage lesbian and her pretty teenage girlfriend, would anyone care as much as they do? Is this incident really a freak one-off occurence in small town America?

No, this is just the one that made it's way to the news. Small town America has been going through this for years. I can't answer your question with any certainty since I really don't know the relevance of one's looks being important in this case. A win for them is a win for the gay community. But I can answer for myself personally; it doesn't matter how attractive or what gender is represented. At the end of the day, someone was wronged, went to court for justice, and in order to avoid justice a town's school board cancelled a prom. Doesn't matter to me what the participants look like.

 

[BellaRisa]

No, this is just the one that made it's way to the news. Small town America has been going through this for years. I can't answer your question with any certainty since I really don't know the relevance of one's looks being important in this case. A win for them is a win for the gay community. But I can answer for myself personally; it doesn't matter how attractive or what gender is represented. At the end of the day, someone was wronged, went to court for justice, and in order to avoid justice a town's school board cancelled a prom. Doesn't matter to me what the participants look like.

I agree with you wholeheartedly Kis, but I also know what Scruff is talking about: pretty=press coverage. A similar point has been made about how many women and children of color go missing in this country every year, but you rarely see a big deal made of it; meanwhile it seems like if a white woman or child goes missing the entire nation goes on red-alert immediately. It's sad but I can't say it's not true. In this case, the good news is as you said: their win will be a win for everyone, including the chubby butches and the male tomboys

 

[kis123]

I agree with you wholeheartedly Kis, but I also know what Scruff is talking about: pretty=press coverage. A similar point has been made about how many women and children of color go missing in this country every year, but you rarely see a big deal made of it; meanwhile it seems like if a white woman or child goes missing the entire nation goes on red-alert immediately. It's sad but I can't say it's not true. In this case, the good news is as you said: their win will be a win for everyone, including the chubby butches and the male tomboys

Oh, he makes a very valid point which is why I chose not to address it corporately but personally. When he made his statement, the first thing that popped in my mind was "if this were a black girl would this had even gotten media attention?" But since that wasn't the subject matter of the OP I chose to stay on point and not make a race statement. I'm sure that there are a few on this board who greatly appreciate it too!

 

[BellaRisa]

Oh, he makes a very valid point which is why I chose not to address it corporately but personally. When he made his statement, the first thing that popped in my mind was "if this were a black girl would this had even gotten media attention?" But since that wasn't the subject matter of the OP I chose to stay on point and not make a race statement. I'm sure that there are a few on this board who greatly appreciate it too!

Eh, I'm sure a few do squirm when race is brought into a subject like this, it's an uncomfortable subject; still, I think it is on point and relevant when we start talking about image and what the media chooses to focus on, which has been a significant element of this case.

 

[kis123]

Eh, I'm sure a few do squirm when race is brought into a subject like this, it's an uncomfortable subject; still, I think it is on point and relevant when we start talking about image and what the media chooses to focus on, which has been a significant element of this case.

The good news for me is that I'm not the one who started the dialogue in that direction. It has a tendency to implode otherwise well discussed threads. I don't know why that is nor do I care to contemplate on it either.

I'm glad that there is some solution to this issue even though the school's cancelling the prom should've been dealt with. I'm just not sure how you go about doing it other than having two proms elsewhere I guess.

 

[Angel77]

You'll have to ask her, but she wanted to go badly enough to file a lawsuit when the school district didn't bend the rules for her and her lesbian girlfriend.




But you do? "Majority of America?!" Care to back that ridiculously presumptuous statement up with some facts? Stating an opinion is fine, but don't pretend to know how "the majority of America" feels about this issue.




No reply needed. Unbelievable.



She might do well, then again she might not. Only the shadow knows. I left my crystal ball back at the palace.
Outside of the GBLT crowd, I'm willing to guess mild amusement or outright mockery. Ellen tossed her 30 grand and a wink. Not too shabby for throwing a tantrum when you don't get your way.

(btw, a GBLT sounds great for lunch)

Hey, you feel how you feel and I feel how I feel.

Let me ask you this. Are you personally affected by Constance? Why does what happened to her seem to make you so upset? Actually, most people I know are for equal rights, and that includes gay people having the same (not more but the same) rights as everyone else. Perhaps not in that obviously backwards town but for the most part everywhere else seems to support Constance being able to go to her prom except for a few angry folks, at least from what I'm seeing. I guess I'm just one of those people that think that everyone should be treated equal. You know, our country was founded on that principle and all.

 

[Angel77]

But they seem to have no problem with fornication do they? Many of these areas have high rates of teen pregnancy. But as long as they're not homosexual, everything is a-ok........whateves!



Yeah, hope springs eternal, doesn't it?? I've never understood why people have a bug in their shorts over it anyway. If you're not homosexual, why should you care about those who are? Unless...........

Good points Kis. Very good points indeed.

 

[Musicroxmysox]

Honestly she's a smart girl, going to the silly makeshift prom is way beneath her.

I think it's awesome though that she has become somewhat of a rights activist.

 

[Redmage]

Apparently, she's not getting any support from her classmates who have shunned her.
The people have spoken, and this time, since it's a private event, there's no one to cry to.

http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=24662

Ah, you are aware of the difference between private and public functions. Who knew? It's sort of sad that something as trivial as this (the right of homophobes to freely assemble as long as they don't use public money to do it) apparently gives you such satisfaction. But simple pleasures are the best, and all that.

So, Constance has learned who her friends are, and that Mississippi homophobes have their intellectual limitations. You've learned about the whole public vs. private thing, and that knowledge will stand you in good stead going forward. And we've all learned a bit about you.

Wins all around.

 

[venray]

Ah, you you are aware of the difference between private and public functions. Who knew? It's sort of sad that something as trivial as this (the right of homophobes to freely assemble as long as they don't use public money to do it) apparently gives you such satisfaction. But simple pleasures are the best, and all that.

So, Constance has learned who her friends are, and that Mississippi homophobes have their intellectual limitations. You've learned about the whole public vs. private thing, and that knowledge will stand you in good stead going forward. And we've all learned a bit about you.

Wins all around.

I cant argue with any of this. Spot on Red...

 

[Cy/MiG]

So there WILL be a prom in this area of Mississippi?

Crap...

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