Funny Situation and Double Standards

[DebonairDavid]

When I was at the library earlier today, there was this cute mom with her son. As she's bending over, her panties became exposed, giving me some eye candy. Its funny how some women, particularly the nutcase feminazis (feminists and feminazis are two different things), would call that misogyny and say I'm objectifying her, and yet when they see a handsome guy with a six pack in his undies, they're drooling over him. Hypocrites... 😆

Update:
After sleeping on it, I realized @tickler misunderstood my original context. This was meant to be said in a strictly joking way by pointing out truthful irony (hence why I used the "😆" emoji). I apologize to anyone else who took this the wrong way as well.

2nd update:
I changed what I originally said to "some women" to clear up any misconceptions that I was attacking women in general, because I wasn't. I was simply explaining how what I said about the woman in question wasn't misogyny or objectifying.

 

[Tickaler]

Just sincerely trying to help you out here, but maybe keep these kinds of random thoughts to yourself hehe. If your goal is to meet female lees, this isn't the best course to take

Also, you likely meant "bulge" in the undies? Six pack being the upper bod?

 

[DebonairDavid]

Just sincerely trying to help you out here, but maybe keep these kinds of random thoughts to yourself hehe. If your goal is to meet female lees, this isn't the best course to take

Also, you likely meant "bulge" in the undies? Six pack being the upper bod?

I'm not ignoring what you're saying, but I don't agree with it, and here's why: We all appreciate good-looking people, regardless of which gender we belong to, so there's nothing wrong with appreciating a little eye candy as long as you purposely keep it to yourself and still continue to treat people as people, which is what I do all the time. Its just like how many people, men and women alike, will watch porn, but don't objectify people they interact with in real life. There are people who sadly do objectify and even harass, and rightfully so get arresred for it, but that's besides the point. Before anyone says anything, porn isn't the cause of those behavior problems. Instead, it can be attributed to a lack of a good upbringing (such as a lack of a male role model), a sex addiction, mental disorders, etc. This is why when that happened, I NEVER touched her, said any derogatory things like "Nice ass!", or immediately stopped and jerked off to it, because the last thing I want is to be put into hand cuffs and then into an 8 x 10 cell.

So no, I'm NOT a masogynist just because of some accident, which is really what it was. When I told one of my male friends (who's married, btw) about it, he said (and I quote) "Brother, if she didn't take the necessary precautions to not have her panties seen out in public then she's the one with the issue not you. You're doing what men normally and are wired to do and that is admire a woman. Sounds very normal to me. At least you didn't grab her by the 🐈. You were a perfect gentleman🫡🫡😂👏🏾"

Ladies, be honest. If the gender roles in the situation were reversed, would you have done the same thing?

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

When I was at the library earlier today, there was this cute mom with her son. As she's bending over, her panties became exposed, giving me some eye candy. Its funny how women, particularly the nutcase feminazis, would call that misogyny and say I'm objectifying her, and yet when they see a handsome guy with a six pack in his undies, they're drooling over him. Hypocrites... 😆

Yep, it's crap. I say let the gaze flow both ways.

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

Just sincerely trying to help you out here, but maybe keep these kinds of random thoughts to yourself hehe. If your goal is to meet female lees, this isn't the best course to take

Also, you likely meant "bulge" in the undies? Six pack being the upper bod?

The only person you're trying to help is yourself

 

[DebonairDavid]

The only person you're trying to help is yourself

To destroy his argument even further, I also encountered two situations where women had wardrobe malfunctions and I was the one who handled it completely appropriately. The first situation involved my coworker when we were still working in the kitchen at this retirement community. Whenever she reached up or bent over, her undies would show and I was embarassed to see them, so when she was by herself one day, I walked up to her and told her about it politely, and she wore a longer shirt underneath her work shirt from then on. The other situation involved my employee friend at the time whenever I shopped at my local Aldi. She clipped her radio onto the collar of her shirt, and the weight of it caused her boobs to accidentally be exposed, and I was embarassed to see that as well. Because I didn't want to embarass her in front of the customers in the check out line, or possibly think of me as a pervert, I later and discreetly told her manager about it and everything was fine after that.

 

[Tickaler]

To "destroy my argument"? Lol, you're not even addressing what I said. That your comments here on double standards and hypocrisy will just not endear you to women at all. There's a reason none of the women in this forum have responded to this thread, despite your begging them to do so.

Good luck in the dating world...

 

[DebonairDavid]

To "destroy my argument"? Lol, you're not even addressing what I said. That your comments here on double standards and hypocrisy will just not endear you to women at all. There's a reason none of the women in this forum have responded to this thread, despite your begging them to do so.

Good luck in the dating world...

You're claim was I was being offensive to women by joking about the woman's underpants being exposed, which wasn't that much different than "I see London, I see France", and I both addressed and countered it by saying both men and women check each other out, but will still treat each other like people at the end of the day. That's the nature of attraction and human interaction. Also, asking women to comment on the topic from a woman's perspective isn't "begging", so you're being disingenious yet again. This is why I'm not an ass-kissing beta male.

Update:
I'll apologize and agree to retract calling you an ass-kissing beta male if you're willing to accept my original context about double standards and hypocrisy as strictly joking

 

[Tickaler]

You're claim was I was being offensive to women by joking about the woman's underpants being exposed, which wasn't that much different than "I see London, I see France", and I both addressed and countered it by saying both men and women check each other out, but will still treat each other like people at the end of the day. That's the nature of attraction and human interaction. Also, asking women to comment on the topic from a woman's perspective isn't "begging", so you're being disingenious yet again. This is why I'm not an ass-kissing beta male.

Update:
I'll apologize and agree to retract calling you an ass-kissing beta male if you're willing to accept my original context about double standards and hypocrisy as strictly joking

You have a tendency to project your thoughts onto other people. Read my posts again. You're not gonna get women by just bashing them with things like double standards and hypocrisy.

You're confusing a beta male with a real man. A real man treats a woman with respect, which includes not talking behind their backs and/or resorting to age-old "he vs she" arguments of double standards as a way to make yourself feel better about your own insecurities.

A beta male is one that struggles to get women because he has zero self-respect for himself.

No need to apologize, you can call me whatever you want, it's not going to hurt my feelings.

Didn't seem like it before, but I'll take your word for it that you now mean it to be in jest. Glad you realize that these kinds of comments, if serious, turn women off.

 

[DebonairDavid]

You have a tendency to project your thoughts onto other people. Read my posts again. You're not gonna get women by just bashing them with things like double standards and hypocrisy.

You're confusing a beta male with a real man. A real man treats a woman with respect, which includes not talking behind their backs and/or resorting to age-old "he vs she" arguments of double standards as a way to make yourself feel better about your own insecurities.

A beta male is one that struggles to get women because he has zero self-respect for himself.

No need to apologize, you can call me whatever you want, it's not going to hurt my feelings.

Didn't seem like it before, but I'll take your word for it that you now mean it to be in jest. Glad you realize that these kinds of comments, if serious, turn women off.

Again, I DID read your replies, I just don't agree with them, and its perfectly fine that I don't. Idc if you don't agree with me either, because you're free to express your opinions as well. I'll admit I come off as blunt and combative at times, maily because I often come across what's perceived as bullshit (sometimes it truly is, sometimes I simply take it the wrong way), but I wouldn't call it as "projecting". I could make room for improving how I word things so I don't get perceived as rude, and the fact that I chose to make clarifications and apologies after sleeping on it shows I'm gradually getting better. I later made it clear in my OP that I wasn't bashing women in general, and I was continuing to stand behind my claim that I'm not a misogynist because I laughed after seeing a woman's underpants exposed. I already established I said and did nothing wrong after noticing them, I would've still treated her like a person regardless if they were exposed or not, and appropriately addressed those other women's wardrobe malfunctions. I've also managed to form good relationships with a number of women on here. So you can't say I'm being disrespectful to women just because you either don't agree with what I said or misperceive it as being disrespectful.

 

[Morning Scifi]

Yep, it's crap. I say let the gaze flow both ways.

It does, but women tend to be more subtle about it.

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

It does, but women tend to be more subtle about it.

Read about Matthew McConaughey's experience working on Magic Mike

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

To destroy his argument even further, I also encountered two situations where women had wardrobe malfunctions and I was the one who handled it completely appropriately. The first situation involved my coworker when we were still working in the kitchen at this retirement community. Whenever she reached up or bent over, her undies would show and I was embarassed to see them, so when she was by herself one day, I walked up to her and told her about it politely, and she wore a longer shirt underneath her work shirt from then on. The other situation involved my employee friend at the time whenever I shopped at my local Aldi. She clipped her radio onto the collar of her shirt, and the weight of it caused her boobs to accidentally be exposed, and I was embarassed to see that as well. Because I didn't want to embarass her in front of the customers in the check out line, or possibly think of me as a pervert, I later and discreetly told her manager about it and everything was fine after that.

If you were trying to help you'd have sent a DM I stead you tried to throw him under the bus publicly as a way to say "I'm not that guy, I'm the one good man" in an attempt to ingratiate yourself to the women on this website.

 

[DebonairDavid]

If you were trying to help you'd have sent a DM I stead you tried to throw him under the bus publicly as a way to say "I'm not that guy, I'm the one good man" in an attempt to ingratiate yourself to the women on this website.

I honestly think you should stop. You're starting to come off as an instigator, and that's only going to make you look bad, especially if he reports you for harassing him.

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

I honestly think you should stop. You're starting to come off as an instigator, and that's only going to make you look bad, especially if he reports you for harassing him.

Sorry that was addressed to the wrong person. It was meant for the other guy.

 

[DebonairDavid]

Sorry that was addressed to the wrong person. It was meant for the other guy.

Regardless though, this bickering has killed this thread, so now I'm having it locked

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

Regardless though, this bickering has killed this thread, so now I'm having it locked

Fair enough, I apologise.