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A brief lesson of kink verbage for the tickling masses

dvnc

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Hi all,

I'd had a few folks recently that didn't know what the difference was between a gathering and a munch, and a play party and a gathering. I figured it'd be easier to drop in here, give the West Coast Gatherings' definition of such, and a few other terms, and encourage the minds of some wiser heads, like Mia, *poke*, to contribute to your (and hopefully my) enlightenment.

Munch - A munch is a gathering of Scene-friendly people, usually at mealtime. Usually one is held in a public restaurant or pub, though some are held in private spaces in such locations.

Play party - private event where play in a given kink is held. Generally, rules of conduct are established for all, and there are monitors, known and unknown. These can be in dungeons or homes.

Gathering - silly term I coined for social events for ticklephiles, held in a private residence or rented space. Play will occur there, though generally more demur than dungeon play.

Screening - What? You thought we just blindly invite everyone into our homes? Nope. There's questionairres to screen new folks. They're as much for you, the attendee, as for me, the host. Everyone's safer.

Safewords - a word or phrase used to pause or stop play. Commonly, there is, at minimum, one safeword. Often, with new folks, just saying "safeword" is enough. Whomever is running the event or overseeing the play will monitor for such, but anyone neglecting such things is just mistreating the person being tickled.

Bottom - for our purposes, a 'lee. In general, someone on the receiving end of whatever play is in action.

Top - for our purposes, me, or any other 'ler.

'Lee - ticklee. The person being tickled.

'Ler - tickler. The person tickling.

Negotiation - the part, before play begins, when the bottom lays out what's acceptable, tells their safeword, and the top wisely describes the possibilities, to make sure that the bottom doesn't safeword mid-scene, and choke him a lot afterward.

Dom and Sub aren't terms I'm even remotely qualified to define. Mia? A little help here? Here's the best you'll get from me:

Dom - Dominant. Can be considered similar to, but not always exactly the same as a 'ler. Picture tyin' up your sub, and positioning yourself to be tickled by them, and paddlin' their butt if they don't tickle you as you wish.

Sub - Submissive. Yes, someone recently didn't know what this meant. Tripped me, too. Doms have subs like Tops have bottoms, but there's a philosophical argument that arises concerning the differences. Those who recall Annaloo99 know that she's not a sub, but she is a bottom, and thus a 'lee. Confused? It's a bit intricate, and for JUST tickling, isn't quite necessary. Of course, some of us aren't into JUST tickling, hence the mention.

There's a nickel's worth. Add to the list. Discuss.

Oh, and in case you've forgotten, Mia - help?

dvnc
 
Excellent thread

I think your right dvnc this is a bit more intricate than people may realize mainly because the human mind is such a complicated thing. For example I would definetly love to tickle a woman but I would also I think like to be tickled by a woman. So am I dominant, submissive, a switch, or just plain kinky. I pick kinky but thats just me.

Another thing I think is maybe a bit more complicated than maybe it might seem at first is the term fetish. Strictly speaking I think a fetishist is only aroused by his or her particular quirk. Nothing else matters. So if you have a foot fetish and the woman or man has gorgeous feet but maybe the rest of her or him is not very attractive that shouldn't matter to a true fetishist. The same obiviuosly goes for tickling. However I think most of us are more selective than this and thus not true fetishists in the strict meaning of the word. We fantasize about tickling celebrities because they are very attractive sexy people in general. I made up the word scenarioist and sometimes I think it might be more appropriate. I would like a scenario of lets say a supermodel dressed in a black leather bikini and high heel slides tickling my naked bound body with her long fingernails. I would pass on Rosie O'Donnell dressed up in a rabbit outfit tickling me,( apologies in advance for those turned on by being tickled by Rosie O' Donnell in a rabbit outfit) because even though tickling terms me on this scenario does not.

Here is a question I have; the term "topping from the bottom" means controlling a dominant person so much with endless details of what you want so that the dominant can't do their job right. So can you give a dominant a particular scenario, like dressing up as a amazon, or a cop or tickle my feet but not my underarms without "topping from the bottom"? I have always wondered where the distinction lies but I think Mistress Mia will have to help us out here. I think I have a lot what people call "fetishes" like tickling, bondage and feet but I don't find them arousing in all situations only in certain ones.

Anyway thats my humble two cents worth for the day. I hope it helps the discussion.
 
I know, I am not Mia......

But here are some more definitions:

Dominant one- The controlling person. They may be a Master, a Mistress, a Dom, a Domme, a Goddess, a Lord, a Switch or a Top

submissive one- The one who chooses to be controlled or dominated. They may be a submissive, a slave, a switch or a bottom.

submissive- One who chooses to be submissive but who does not give total control of all aspects of their lives to a Dominant one.

slave- One who have given all aspects of their lives, physically, sexually and mentally to be controlled by a Dominant one and who usually has a contracted relationship.

Dom or Domme- One who is a Dominant one.

Master or Mistress- A Dominant one who has accepted the gift of submission from a submissive one who then has become theirs.

Although a Dom or Domme can be a Master or Mistress not all are. If the Dom or Domme chooses to accept a submissive one for their own, they then become the Master or Mistress to that one.

Switch- One who chooses at different times to be either a Dominant one or a submissive one.

Limits- These are actions or areas or degrees of pain and/or experiences that are not to be inflicted upon a submissive one.

Jen
 
kurchatovium, wanted t'hit a couple of points for you.

Are we a fetism? Depends on how you dig tickling. It's a fetish or paraphilia for some, and for other, it's a sexual deviancy. You can likely guess where that lies, for me. 😉

Also, many "fetishes" are combinative. Foot fetishism is common with ticklers.

"Topping from below" is common with bottoms that want to control what happens to them. It's often a scene killer, but I have seen it work, albeit rarely. This is different than negotiating a scene, though. It's constant, all the way through the scene, and often afterward, for the lifestyle 24/7 folks.

It ain't topping from below to tell someone what you like and what ain't allowed. It IS when you call safeword all the time and correct the dom. At that point, if you have to do this that often, one or the other should quit. Needless to note, there are often those that won't, 'cause the bottom's attractive to them or desirable for one of many reasons.

more trivia,

dvnc
 
Thanks

Dvnc,thanks for clearing up that topping from the bottom thing I can clearly see the difference now between that and negotiating a scenario. I think though that some dominants don't like scenarios very much and maybe thats were my confusion came. It didn't occur to me that someone could use a safeword constantly. I can see where that would get very annoying.

I agree with you that most of us combine fetishes, for example, women's feet, tickling and bondage are a favorite of mine. I guess the term fetish and some of these other terms gets used so much that we fail to realize the human mind and hence human sexuality is very complicated. Its not easy to pigeonhole anyone of us into a simple category dom, sub, foot fetishist, etc. when we may be a blend of all of those things.

I am glad you started this discussion as I have already learned a lot. Take care.
 
Great Stuff in this thread. I wish I had access to this info back 5 years ago when I first found this group online. I hope this helps the newer folks to understand our lingo.

Jan
 
Using a safeword constantly? Anyone doing so with great regularity indicates either that their top isn't so good, or that they didn't properly negociate what was allowed, or, worst of all, that they're attempting to manipulate the top.

Some argue that safewords are a bad deal, and make analogies about roller-coasters and being able to stop midway. For the new kids, and for new pairings among seasoned players, using a safeword initially is a reasoned way (for the non-psychic) to learn about one's partner.

It's part of what makes the kinked MORE communicative with their partners than the vanilla folk. That's an ADVANTAGE.

Keep in mind that some folks don't ever USE safewords, by their own choice. I'll not fault a bottom for electing to pass on choosing a safeword, even if I think they're just trying to compliment me (like I'm psychic or somethin'). I do tend to be more cautious with those folks, though.

Oh, and thanks you both for the props. I'm just sharin' the word, y'know. There are many sites available for folks interested in sussin' out this data for themselves. Old guys, like me, read it from a copy of BDSM 101 (back when we read on PAPER), but such is in *multiple* locations online now.

A search for "BDSM 101" on google.com is a fine place to start looking, both to get data, and to laugh at the mooks trying to shill porn to info seekers. Given the annoyance of such, I'm just informing here. Some folks have already talked to me about compilin' such data for all interested, and stickin' it on one of "our" sites, and I'm lookin' t'do so now on the gatherings site. It's just text, after all.

dvnc
 
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