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A Tickle Question....

Sunriseticklee

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Someone (I won't give out their name) instant messaged me a question, and I wanted to know what you all think about it.

<b>hello. i have had tickling fantasies but seem to have trouble in real life relaxing enough to get over the angry? stage of fighting the tickling to the point when i am laughing uncontrolably. do you know if this is common?</B>

I am going to direct the person to the thread, so it'd be cool if ya'll gave him/her your thoughts and advise too.

I personally can't relate. I have loved being tickled since I was a kid. Sure I fight it sometimes, but that's just a show. If I really want it, I'm not going to fight so much that I don't get it! But that's just me. I'm weird. 😛 Maybe those of you who are ticklish LERS can relate.

So... be nice and answer the person's question for me (Double T will give each participant a dollar). 😀

Sunrise
:Kiss2:
 
I guess I am someone misunderstanding what this person is asking. I do fight any tickling at all, heh some can attest to that. But, that is kinda what bondage is for. I still yell out plenty of obsenities, threats, etc, but it is what I am known for, and it doesn't bother me.

Yes, I do enjoy it, but fighting it is certainly natural. I am not too sure about the being angry over it though. I don't get angry, I just come across as such. I am more frustrated over actually being pinned than being tickled.

Pawz
 
Well... some people aren't ready for bondage, or just plain don't like bondage. I like both... but I'm not always in the mood for both.

I do know that if I am angry and someone is trying to tickle me, stopping WOULD be the idea.... LOL but once again, that's just me and as I was saying, I can't relate.

Is there anyone else out there who can answer this person's question?
Lers who don't like being tickled?

Thanks 4Paws.

Sunrise
:Kiss2:
 
I use to hate being tickled.

Until I was about 18 years old I loved to tickle women but absolutely hated being tickled by anyone. It didn't matter who I was being tickled by, it really pissed me off! Then one day I was gang tickled by two cute female friends of mine and suddenly I found out it could be fun. I think it was the playful / sexy attitude they had as they tickled me that turned me into a "lee" as well as a "ler" ( I'm still mostly a "ler" ).

I can't think of a time where I was being tickled and was angry about it but changed in the middle of it and enjoyed letting go and laugh. If I am being tickled by someone I don't like, it still pisses my off.

There is a huge difference for me between being tickled by someone that you have an emotional connection to and being tickled by an insensitive asshole!

I can attest to Pawz reaction to being tickled. If I had seen her being tickled in another environment as opposed to being tickled at a gathering, I would have sworn that she was being assaulted and would file law suites against those that tickled her. What a mouth on that woman! LOL According to Pawz we are all damned to hell! 🙂 hehehe

One thing we should remember is that we all get something different out of tickling or being tickled. There is such a huge range of responses and feelings that it's impossible to categorize people in any detail. I love to hear how each person enjoys their own connection to and preferences regarding tickling.

Mark 🙂
 
Fighting is natural...
But I usually wind up squirming and kicking and laughing to hard to fight. Restraints, though, are out of the question
:sowrong:
 
Sometimes I think reactions to being tickled are more or less a "Knee Jerk" for lack of a better term. There may be people who enjoy being tickled, yet feel helpless, tortured and or angry when it is happening to them. I had a pen pal tell me this once, how she loved being tickled, yet it made her feel controlled, helpless and angry when it was happening to her. The key I think is the being out of control. When you are being tickled, love it or hate it, someone else is controlling your body and emotions, for example, and you lose control over yourself. For this reason, I think it is why I myself dont like to be tickled except perhaps in a situation where I really trusted the person. I have been gang tickled, and I remember feeling frightened, helpless and angry when it happened to me certain times, except as I said in specific situations. I dont know if Iam over analyzing this whole thing, but this is how I read what this thread starter had to say. I'd be interested to hear reactions to my comments.

Mitch
 
Though I love tickling now, I can somewhat relate to what (I think) is the issue at hand...being able to let go of resistance and enjoy the tickling itself. If I'm right about the issue, read on. If not? Well, you'd probably be wasting your time. lol Is it common? I think it is. But, I've never seen any survey of the general population to show it.

There was a point when I was absolutely terrified of being tickled. I'd had a very traumatic experience in which tickling played a role. As a result, I wanted nothing to do with it. At the same time, though, I remembered how much I'd enjoyed it before that incident and wanted to overcome the fear and anger that would come as a result. For me, writing stories to face down the issue was one part of desensitizing myself to the accompanying fear/anger. Another was playing with cyber and immagining how I would feel at various points. Even those were uncomfortable to a degree at first. Once I became comfortable with them, I was able to allow little playful pokes, etc. from family and friends. I just kept building on things. Finally, the fear had been overcome and I was able to enjoy it again.

To deal with the anger this person is experiencing, I would imagine that a similar progression would be helpful. The trick, I would think, is to gradually get used to it and not jump in full tilt right at the start. If this person really wants to come to enjoy being tickled, that would be my advice. But, at the same time, it's not for everyone. So, if they find that they just can't get into it, maybe they aren't meant to be a lee in the first place? My advice then would be to accept yourself as you are and enjoy thos things that don't turn you off.

Ann
 
I used to think of tickling as a weakness, but look at me now! I laugh at the thought, I used to act tough alot so people wouldn't mess with me... Anyways it depends, if I'm getting tickled by a girl I would fight back and tickle them, but if its another guy than I would shove and push (not hit if I liked them as a friend.) In some future I might let a girl tie and tickle me, but not anytime soon.
 
When tickled, I fight, but not out of anger. It is simply a normally futile effort to escape this playful torture. Of course, my struggles are involuntary.

The only time I think I would get angry while being tickled is if the tickler refused to stop even after I've made it clear that I want her to.

Just my two cents. 🙂


Hav
 
Time

That is how you get over the "angry" stage of fighting off the tickle sensations. As you are tied and being tickled....the longer the tickling the more apt the defenses will break down. Once that happens, the anger will pass and give way to the ticklish laughter and hysteria.
HOW long it takes may be an individual thing and there not be a set time for it to happen.

It will.
Just let it.

TTD😉 😎
 
Sunriseticklee said:


So... be nice and answer the person's question for me (Double T will give each participant a dollar). 😀

Sunrise
:Kiss2:

A dollar to each? Darn! I'm going to have to buy a new Monopoly game to cover that!

Sunrise, you lil devil, you!

I'm probably not going to be able to help anyone out on this topic, being a ticklish ler who loves being tickled. Like Sunrise, I do struggle a little, but not much of one. I want her to tickle me. I can see when Pawz says it's kind of natural to try to resist, and if bondage is within your realm of acceptance, I say, go for it!

As for you, sweetheart, just you wait!!! Heh, heh! :lovestory

The mad thread hijacker strikes again!
 
I can kind of relate....

For me, I wouldn't use "angry" in the textbook sense of the word, it's more of a stubborn "you're not gonna break me!" attitude. I find it VERY hard to just let go and give into the ticklish sensations, so in that respect, I can definitely relate.
One thing that I find helps me to let go of my urge to control my ticklish reations is if the 'ler goofs around and makes me laugh before they begin tickling. If I'm already laughing beforehand, there isn't much chance of being able to stop it once the tickling starts. Verbal teasing is very helpful in both keeping the 'lee's spirits light (thus not thinking about having to "let go" or "give in") and keeping the laughter going.


Maggie
 
Re: I can kind of relate....

daisycrazy5496 said:
For me, I wouldn't use "angry" in the textbook sense of the word, it's more of a stubborn "you're not gonna break me!" attitude. I find it VERY hard to just let go and give into the ticklish sensations, so in that respect, I can definitely relate.
One thing that I find helps me to let go of my urge to control my ticklish reations is if the 'ler goofs around and makes me laugh before they begin tickling. If I'm already laughing beforehand, there isn't much chance of being able to stop it once the tickling starts. Verbal teasing is very helpful in both keeping the 'lee's spirits light (thus not thinking about having to "let go" or "give in") and keeping the laughter going.


Maggie


****taking notes****

For future reference, I will keep this little tidbit of info on file!

TTD
 
This may make people a little squirmy, but look at it in the context of our interest, and in a broader BDSM spectrum. There's a reason for bondage- it isn't just to fulfill someone's kidnap fantasy. Sometimes to get that amazing experince, or loss of utter control and indescribable feeling of abandonment, the person being tickled (whipped, spanked, etc.) Needs to be taken, or guided beyond their comfot zone, needs to be taken to a point or direction they can't, won't, or thought they didn't want to go. Tickled to that anger, figthing point, then through it, then beyond it, to the other side where it feels amazing to be forced to "let go", or, at least, if it is intense and scary throught the tickling, there can be an incredible feeling AFTER the tickling (ie, all the torment is 'worth it' once the person pushes through it & perseveres). The bondage keeps them in place, and protects the tickler from being hurt. This is why TRUST is very improtant. Experience and intellegence in the 'ler is, too. If the tickling turns from "intense" - which can be an unpleasant sight - to "tramautizing" - which is just bad, something too far - then the tickling should stop, it didn't work, and that's it. "Intense" may look ugly, it may feel horrible, but in the arms of a caring and careful dom it can lead to an amazing comedown or after effect once the tickling is over, even though the experience was tough to take. This is in general why people get uncomfortable over anything S&M in general - how can anyone find pleasure in being abused? Well, it's all about stimulation,adreneline and maipulating the body's and brain's chemicals, not just "pain". Football hurts, but to the winners, it feels amazing. Sometimes in this type of play you gotta Keri Strug your way through it; accept & will yourself to Fitzcarraldo through the unpleasantness to see the other side.

If someone has that angry stage they go through, I'd say use bondage and just have the (trusted and safe) tickler push the 'lee through it-even, to some extent, against the 'lees own will - to see what's on the other side. There may not be an 'other side', in which case there needs to be a time to stop. It's not about forcing anyone into something, but it is about a 'lee willingly giving up a measure of control, willingly giving up a tiny piece of concent and accepting that that exchange in power is going to be explored by the 'ler. In return, the 'ler has to indulge in that taking of power safely. It is a thin line and slippery slope, maybe even a thin slippery slope or a slippery sloping line, but sometimes you have to deal with those.

And I do speak from experience. My 1st time as a 'lee was intense and scary. I was worked over by 2 women (one I didn't know) whome were not into tickling, but were into dominace & control, so my struggling and cying out gave them great, and very real, joy. So it got "intense", I got scared & panicky and reached a point where it really stopped being fun even as the women were having a real blast. But I had an incredible high afterwards and I am still here, persuing this interest. This was in 1992 and I was never traumatized or have backed away from this. In fact, to this day I'm looking for a similar experince to my 1st time. When you're into tickling, and want to try to get a little real or intense with it, the 1st time is always the hardest, and will probably be the most unpleasant. Once that hump is over, however, it is an amazing trip.
 
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Re: Re: A Tickle Question....

Double T said:
A dollar to each? Darn! I'm going to have to buy a new Monopoly game to cover that!

Sunrise, you lil devil, you!

I'm probably not going to be able to help anyone out on this topic, being a ticklish ler who loves being tickled. Like Sunrise, I do struggle a little, but not much of one. I want her to tickle me. I can see when Pawz says it's kind of natural to try to resist, and if bondage is within your realm of acceptance, I say, go for it!

As for you, sweetheart, just you wait!!! Heh, heh! :lovestory

The mad thread hijacker strikes again!

Yeah yeah!

You could never resist me! :devil:

Hell... I don't even think you try.

Sunny

P.S. I think ya'll did a pretty good job answering the question. The person did say thank you, just incase some of you wanted to know. I appreciate your participation too. 😀 Now go play. Recess will be over before you know it!
 
my own perspective

Good question 🙂 Tickling and being Tickled is a Passion
of mine,I can;t get enough of being the tickler or the Lee 🙂.As a Lee I think I fight a little just to make it playful and it is my way
of seeing just how determined the tickler is😛 :devil: or if the tickler might give up🙄
 
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