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An intriguing fact about Presidents of the United States........

BigJim

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They say that anyone can become the President of the USA. Really? I discovered an intersting fact the other day. There have been 44(I think) Presidents to date. 35 of them have been genetically related to the British royal family. (And hence the other European royal families.) The other 9 were married or related to someone who was a direct blood relation to European royalty.

Thoughts anyone?
 
Clique?

Umm...how about "it's a small world?". Always liked that emotion! Royalty! That's what we always thought....but, we improved on the stuff a wee bit on our own...lol! 😉 Q
 
FNORD!

You've uncovered a conspiracy, Big Jim, being perpetrated throughout centuries by the Illuminati. Please remove the tinfoil lining from your hat so the mind control waves can brainwash you and remove this discovery from your memory. LOL!

Ok, getting serious for a moment-- this doesn't truly surprise me at all. The United States is not a democracy-- it is a democratic republic. The founding fathers set up so many checks and balances in the entire governing and electoral process (cf. the Electoral College) because they did not trust the instincts of the "common rabble" and wanted the better educated citizenry to preside over the entire game. Kind of a scary thought, isn't it?

Power and opportunities tend to develop "cliques" or inner circles or what have you. I've seen it in numerous situations and places . . . including web-based communities. Is it theoretically possible for an "outsider" to become president? Sure, it is. But it isn't very likely. And believe it or not, this might be a good thing. Look at ancient Rome, for example, and their succession of emperors.
 
Re: FNORD!

Mischief said:
You've uncovered a conspiracy, Big Jim, being perpetrated throughout centuries by the Illuminati. Please remove the tinfoil lining from your hat so the mind control waves can brainwash you and remove this discovery from your memory. LOL!


Tinfoil? If anything can penetrate my Cro-Magnon skull then tinfoil ain't gonna stop it! LOL😉
 
Good piece Mischief.

I was unaware of the way the US voting system worked untill the last Presedential election. You have these electoral colleges and vote for some facless unknown beaurocrat and NOT for your chosen Presidential candidate , in the event of the electorate voting for a KKK candidate the faceless pen pusher simply votes for someone else or your behalf. Sounds pretty undemocratic but has it ever happened?
 
Yup...

There HAVE been times when the elctors have voted against the instructed candidiate. They are then known as "unfaithful" electors... Q
 
Re: Yup...

qjakal said:
There HAVE been times when the elctors have voted against the instructed candidiate. They are then known as "unfaithful" electors... Q

So is it the unfaithful electors who elect the unfaithful politicians?

Just wondering!
 
History....

Tales of the Unfaithful Electors
One of the common criticisms of the U.S. Electoral College is that the electors are not legally bound to vote for a candidate. The "faithless electors" have never been more than one or two isolated individuals in any election, and their breach of trust has never changed the outcome of an election. Still, the idea that a single elector could change the course of history is both romantic and frightening.

One misconception about the Electoral College is that the founders intended for the electors to use their individual judgment in selecting a candidate. A few people at the constitutional convention may have held this view. But at the very first contested Presidential election (that is, in 1796), electors were already pledged to a candidate. Indeed, one Pennsylvania elector pledged to Adams voted for Jefferson, prompting this complaint, not so different from something you might see posted on the Internet:
What, do I chuse Samuel Miles to determine for me whether John Adams or Thomas Jefferson shall be President? No! I chuse him to act, not to think.
What remains the most amazing thing about unfaithful electors is that they continue to appear. Both political parties have been inexplicably careless in their selection of electors and have failed to impress upon them the civic duty of being faithful to their pledge. Many states do not even have a formal pledge process, and fewer have enacted sanctions for failure to vote as pledged. (The Supreme Court has ruled that states may empower parties to require a formal pledge from anyone running as a Presidential elector. Ray v Blair, 343 US 214 (1952).)

Remember, too, that in the one election that was so close that a single vote could have changed the outcome (1876), every elector voted as pledged. (The popular vote in 1876 was riddled with fraud. Direct election proponents should ponder this contrast for a bit.) James Russell Lowell, a Republican elector from Massachusetts, indicated that he had been approached to switch his vote, but he would not do so. "It is a plain question of trust," he wrote to a friend.

Unfortunately, not every elector reached the same conclusion. Here are some names of the rogues gallery of U.S. elections:
1960, Henry D. Irwin, "a free elector"
1968, Dr. Lloyd W. Bailey, "protest vote"
1972, Roger MacBride, "Libertarian elector"
1976, Mike Padden, "pro-life elector"
1988, Margarette Leach, "get their attention"

Nuff said? Q
 
Another interesting fact about The Presidents of the Untied States of America...

...they did a pretty spiffy cover of "Video Killed the Radio Star".😀
 
Re: Re: FNORD!

BigJim said:
Tinfoil? If anything can penetrate my Cro-Magnon skull then tinfoil ain't gonna stop it! LOL😉

LMAO! Good one, Big Jim

It's not the thickness that matters, it's a property of the tinfoil. Kind of like Superman's x-ray vision can penetrate 6 feet of concrete, but can't get through a single layer of lead. Er . . . you don't have a steel plate in your head or anything, I hope!
 
Other supposed reasons for the electoral college are:

Reaction to changes in affairs between the times of election and college vote,such as fraud.

The early voting system took into account how many voters were isolated and a large number illiterate.

Whether or not the electoral college is useful today has been questioned a few times,but no attempt to abandon it has been successful.

The connections of US presidents to UK royalty might go to show why the US and UK tend to stand together despite our sometimes major differences.During a TV show,it was brought up how much other countries were,or were not,aiding in antiterrorism work.When one person mentioned how much the UK was helping,another guest crossed his fingers and said "Aw c'mon,the US and Britain are like this".I don't mind this type of company.
 
shark said:
When one person mentioned how much the UK was helping,another guest crossed his fingers and said "Aw c'mon,the US and Britain are like this".I don't mind this type of company.

Booyakasha! Long may it last!
 
George "Dubya" Bush is the Great Imposter? Now that's no way to talk..lol Just because his father is the biggest drug baron in North America and his grandfather was a financier of the Hitler's rise to power is no reason to disrespect the dude. LMAO :blaugh:
 
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