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Another update.

Celtic_Emperor

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I'm on a roll. 🙂


Update-

- Added 1 picture of Deedlit to the Record of Lodoss War album in
the Photos section.

- Also added the Deedlit picture to the Full-sized folder in the Files
section.

- Changed the group color scheme


Well, as I said, I'm on a roll and am getting more work done at a
satisfactory pace. Now about the picture. In case you don't now, she
is Deedlit, a High Elf, from Record of Lodoss War.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DJs_Fanart/files/FULL-sized pictures/Deedlit.JPG

Note again, like with the Pirotess picture, and all pictures before
it, that this is my first time drawing Deedlit in any capacity.

I hope you like it. Comments, questions, and concerns are welcome. (Except for Ziggy.)

I'm glad that I now have both of them drawn. Maybe next time I draw
a Lodoss War picture, it will be the two of them together. They
always go well together. and add extra charm when paired.

Give me your thoughts, and please join my site. The more the marrier. 🙂


- Damien
 
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Excellent Stuff!

I wish I had your talent. Great Stuff.
 
Thanks again. 🙂

And you have your own talent, and its good your expressing it also.

What do you like about the picture? Or is it all about the feet? LOL


I'd like to think for people other then myself its a combination of things.


- Damien
 
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For me, its everything.

The face, the atmosphere, the clothing, the expresion. All of it adds up to a wonderful pic. Although I really would like to see some more tickling art from you, even pics like this show how much talent you truly possess.
 
Yeah. Thanks. I'm glad you like it. 🙂

I will be drawing more tickling art. I'm not getting as much of a response as I would like, nor am I reaching enough people.

I just...well, don't want to have to fully conform to the fetish community just to get noticed more or get responses. In fact, part of what makes my art unique is that I'm not driven the same way other fetish-inclinded artists are and I couldn't possibly take it as far. I understand how that might make me an outcast, but I'm trying to help.

I like drawing barefoot pictures whenever I can. Feet are fun to draw, and can express a lot in a picture and even enchance the character to which they belong. Like with Deedlit in this picture, or Pirotess in the last one. (If you want to call this a fetish, fine.)

When I first started and made my group in october, I did so because I had seen for myself the lack of ANIME material out there, and the lack of devoted fan artists to this genre. Thats what got me involved while realizing my likes and dislikes for it.


Bottom line, I'm sort of caught in the middle between accepting a fetish and joining the rest of you. I find tickling amusing when done in a sensual, mutual, cute way, and drawing feet is fun. So in retrospect, I may have had a fetish the entire time, and I'm only barely coming to terms with it now. And since I'm in a situation where people look forward to what I have to offer, its pressuring.


But I don't want you or anyone getting the wrong idea about it. I don't think you guys and gals are strange. ^____^

But I'm going to draw more tickling pictures. But not at the expense of drawing nothing else.

Another reason, and a good one (at least I thought) for not drawing many tickling pictures is that I wanted to tease you all. By teasing an audiance, it makes them want it more when they finally get it. Hopefully that idea will pay off.


- Damien
 
Well,

Your teasing is definetly working, because I am in agony waiting for your next work. And I fully agree with you. You and I have alot in common, only with me as a writer. I don't let my tickling facination (I won't call it a fetish, as I see nothing sexual about it) get in the way of my life. I write when the mood hits me, even if it is not for weeks (or months, as the case may be.) If you have read any of my stories, you'll know that I like tickling as a cute and fun thing, where everyone enjoys it. When someone stops enjoying it, its not tickling in my book, but rather pain. And I am such a swell guy that I really can't see anyone in pain (well, a few really nasty enemies could use a few hours burning at the stake, but let's not go there.)

Anyway, all I am trying to say is, I love your work, and respect you decision as an artist. And when you do have more tickling art, you'll always have at least one very, very appreciative fan, who'll never forget you.
 
Thanks for the encouragement. I need it to feel comfortable here. 🙂

I also agree with what you said. I in no way see this as a sexual thing. Its innocent fun for me unless I make it otherwise. And I wouldn't conciously do that. I do realize there are groups of people that may not like to hear that. And perhaps I'm losing more ground then I'm gaining. But I'd rather not sell myself or my art out just to get some kind of a response or acknowledgment. While I will admit being avoided, ignored, or given the cold shoulder discourages me to a degree, I realize I can't satisfy everyone, and I shouldn't try to. I'm glad that you feel the same way with your stories and that you don't compromise your integrity. In fact, I'm down right proud of you for that. A lot of people buckle and cave in under pressure. I'm glad to see someone is as stubborn as me when it comes to that. 😀

As far as the enemies thing..well I can hear you on that too. Here, on this forum, I know there are people that probably already don't like me for any number of reasons. Someone, in private, even brought to my attention that some people may be intimidated or jealous of my work and thats why I'm not getting hardly any responses. They also suggested this forum has a clannish, exclusive atmosphere. And if you aren't a member of this inner circle or clicke, your avoided and ignored. While I'm not spreading propaganda, that is what I heard. And if thats true, it would make sense why I'm being ignored. I know my art is good. In fact, its better then good. And yet hundreds of people look at my threads, take my pictures, and sometimes not even 1 person posts. If I want a post, I have to ask for an opinion or wait until fine chaps like you and some of the others post. It truely is discouraging as an artist, and I thought it over recently that I may just leave. If this forum, or elements in it don't accept me, then so be it. Theres plenty of other places I could go to. I just don't want to have to do that, because there are nice people here who at least have enough respect or appriciation to respond to my threads and pictures. I wonder sometimes if some of them aren't just half-assing the response though. I know who is genuinely interested in what I have to say and have to provide, and whose not. I can more or less tell who is posting because they like my work and appriciate it, and whose posting just to post and look like a nice guy giving a new member a chance. The thing is however, I'm not really new anymore, people know who I am, and they take my work whether they comment on it or not. So when I see other threads (of newbies) being responded to and I'm overlooked, dispite my talent, it really does sometimes lead me to believe people here don't like me.

I know that they aren't missing the threads, because alot of people have viewed them. I didn't know someone could be dismissed in such a manner. And to be honest, for people to take my work and not say anything is pretty selfish and it only shows I'm being used and taken for granted. At first I thought it was because I was new or something, and that I didn't deserve their attention. But I've been around long enough to a point where I should be getting more feedback then I currently am. I'm lossing motivation to post my works here, and if things don't improve, I'll have to withdraw my contributions and support. I entered this arena in good faith I could make it big. I know my art is that good, not to brag. I've looked at the other anime artists, and have gauged their strengths and weaknesses versus mine. I have the skills to pay the bills as do some of them. In fact, my art could qualify me as one of the top 5 anime artists in this community. So it baffles me that I'm being ignored. I honestly see this as a concious decision by any person that views my threads and does nothing but take from me. My work has merit, as do I.

I feel underappriciated, and if things don't get better, theres no reason to stay just to get a few pleasant words every now and then that I'll have to regurgitate. I entered this genre knowing I could make a difference at least to the anime fans. On some levels I've already succeeded, and on others I haven't yet. With very little support, I don't know why I'm even trying at all. I could easily just draw for myself and my site, become exclusive myself, and forget the lot of you. But like you said about yourself critterlord, your a swell guy. I am too. But I'm not so swell that I'll continue to talk to a damn wall. 😛


- Damien


PS: I've been meaning to say this for about 3 days now. And its 5am right now as I type this. So if I trailed on and the post was too lengthy or irritating, I apologize. TO YOU. I'm not apologizing for what I said. Good morning/night. I'll be seeing you.
 
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Don't give up

I'm sorry, but if you stop posting here, than that just means the clannish and uncultured brutes have suceeded in driving out outsiders. If push comes to shove, just think of the six or seven people who post about your work, or the hundreds who are too shy to post. Yah, that's right. I was here for months before I did my first post, because I was timid.

Lets put it this way. Your work probaly is so stunning and magnificent that you intimidate your fans enough that they can only bask in your light.

Take me as an example. I work and slave on these stories of mine, and for what. "Thanks, is good, but give me porn." I mean, come on. If I wanted that slop, I could just write the kind of garbage I used to think about before I refined my tastes. You see, you started off as enjoying the fun. I still sometimes have to prevent my mind from making violent tickling senarios. But there is always one or two (or three) excellent people who are kind enough to give me nice comment that mean something. ANd in my own little way, I hope to do this for you. I do not write long posts like this for anyone. I do it for those who need it. You could use some friendship, and I hope to provide it. (Besides, us lite ticklers have to stick together in this, or we get swamped by the "give us porn" people. So stay the steady course, and always remember, I'll be here and at you group, eagerly awaiting your next masterpiece.

PS so feel comfortable already!🙂
 
It may be pretty obvious advice, Celtic_Emperor, but just do the art you like doing, and a lot of people here and elsewhere will like it too. The ones who don't aren't worth worrying about. Clearly, you like tickling in your own way, and your art should reflect that. If some people here don't like that approach, they don't have to look.

I agree with you and Critterlord about tickling as a non-sexual and playful experience. I've loved the idea of tickling pretty girls ever since I was a kid, but it's at most just a kind of innocent flirtation. And as long as I've enjoyed the idea, if the girl isn't enjoying it too, forget it. That's what my stories are all about: cute tickling that's fun for everyone involved. Critterlord's are in the same style. In fact, I'm pleased to say that my stories inspired his very directly, which he has kindly acknowledged many times.

I like all of your art, tickling and non. I agree with Critterlord that it would be nice to see more tickling images, but we'll gladly wait until you feel like doing them.

As for the lack of responses, I wouldn't attach too much importance to it. Most people here read, but don't post. Out of 7,600 members, something like 7,000 have never posted at all. Only about 150 post regularly. And many of them won't respond to innocent art. But of the other 7,000, there are I'm sure MANY who love your work.

I had the same experience when I started posting my stories here. I would get very nice comments, always from the same 4 or 5 people. I decided to open a Yahoo group last April, so anyone who wanted could see all my stories all together. Based on the responses here, I though I'd get 15 members or so, maybe 25; 50 tops. I now have 1102 (it'll drop soon, I think, but hopefully not by more than 50 or 75 🙂 ). And you know what? I still only get responses from 4 or 5 people. The other 1097 must read (or they'd quit), but they never say anything.

So, I guess I'm just saying, you've got a silent majority. All of them, and the few of us who are more vocal, will look forward to whatever you choose to draw in future. But I think it would be a mistake to abandon this community because your fans are quiet.

UNO
 
Critterlord, U.N.Owen, I can truely say, with the upmost respect, dispite what anyone outside of this thread says about it, that you two are truely good people who stick to their guns, are full of honesty, and leave me in awe. I don't think I've ever recieved this kind of understanding (from an artistic or in your cases authors) perspective. It truly is amazing that I could find you two gentleman in the most unlikely of places. What the two of you said has class, and I don't give a damn if people think I'm only saying that because your helping me or being nice.

The way you present yourselves isn't bitchy, it was proper, and you truely are gentleman in the sense of the word. Class, just class. And to find something like that here, in a community which thrives on indecent proposals at times, it is a blessing to have crossed paths with you, and several others. Your both right in everything you said, it makes perfect sense, and I really needed to here it before I just said to hell with it, and left. Your absolutely right, both of you. I'd rather have only a small handful of real opinions about me or my work then to have half-assed ones that are empty and meaningless. I sometimes get bad vibes from people. I'm not getting any from you, and again, dispite what some may say, I'm not saying this to butter you up or because it would benefit me to say it. Just as you two meant what you said, damnit, I mean what I say too.

I don't know what came over me, but you've both re-affirmed what I already knew at heart. I don't need to kneel, I don't need to bend, I don't need to please the whims of the greater majority that want nothing from me but for me to give them cheap thrills. I know who my audiance is, I know what I'm doing is good and unquestionable, and I'm glad you two, and many others, many many others, thousands of people for all I know, are a part of my world-wide audiance.

"This overly emotional immature bastard is full of himself. Look at him, how pathetic. He gets a little pat on the back and he thinks he's the best. His little spotlight moment will be over soon. HAHAHHA!"

For people that may think that, well HAHAHAHAHAHA to you too because your totally wrong about me. Because I'm a contributing member, I have something important to share, I'm a damn good person, and I won't be stopped by the likes of you whether its private, massed, verbal, non-verbal or ill wishes. I don't care if your young or old, tall or short, fat or thin, bald or goldylocks, rich or dirt poor, I have succeeded in something you won't be sharing in, and I feel sorry for you.

You may think I'm getting all worked up for nothing, well thats wrong. It sure as hell isn't for nothing. Oh, its for something, and I've never felt better!

"WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"- Ric Flair (WWE)


- Damien
 
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Celtic_Emperor said:
I don't need to kneel, I don't need to bend, I don't need to please the whims of the greater majority that want nothing from me but for me to give them cheap thrills.

Exactly correct! The art you want to do will have plenty of fans on its own considerable merits. This is a diverse community, and the like-minded will seek each other out.

Just as an example: take your picture of the babysitter, with the two little kids who have just taken her shoes off and are approaching her feet with feathers. Those who want "hard-core" obviously won't respond to that. But I LOVE that one. I think it's my favorite of your tickling images, even though the tickling is only implied. It's the cuteness of the scenario that matters to me there.

I'm very pleased my message, and Critterlord's, had such a positive effect. Rock on, as they say -- but in your own way.

UNO
 
Yeah. I just needed the likes of you two to bring that out of me. It was something that was really bothering me, and I just didn't want people to fry me for what I was going to say. The truth is, there is a certain level of biasedness in any community. And in one that revolves around a fetish, one must be careful not to insult anyone. I'm sure, dispite what I said, people that know of me have already drawn their own conclusions about me whether those are good or bad.

As far as that babysitter picture, I'm surprized anyone likes that picture. LOL Its one of my older ones, and the quality isn't that good, especially when compared to my experience now. But, she is an original character of mine, and it was one of the pictures that started me off, so its important to me. 🙂 I'm glad that you can appriciate my work in the way I want to get acrossed. I'm glad that I'm correctly communicating a similiar feeling and there are no misunderstandings about it. 🙂

And I was more then pleased with what you two said. It was down right inspiring. I'll no doubt continue. I'd like to think my skills are good enough to put me in a high place as I believe they can in my last messege. I just hope this doesn't come off as arrogant.

The way I see it, I have 2 superiors, and thats all. Scamwich is great, as is Osaka. Those two however have more experience then I do with coloring and photoshop. Once I learn more about coloring and photoshop, I hope I might be compared, at least in skill, to the likes of them. Its sort of one of my goals to be one of the greats. Its clear to me this communities artists each have their own style, and I'm glad each is different. I'm even more driven to provide my material because this community needs a different approach. I personally feel there is too much bondage or suggestive themes in the pictures. I hope that my art will somehow balance the overwhelming majority of what is present and perhaps set a standard or give people a choice of selection. I don't feel the community has a choice. Its my opinion that all the artists I've seen (with some exceptions), while their style is different, draw very much alike in the theme of bondage and suggestiveness.

Don't get me wrong, sexy pictures are good. In fact, I may draw some at some point. But theres a limit I have as you know and as you accept. Like you said, tickling shouldn't be forced. Or was it critterlord that said that? And its my opinion it shouldn't be torturous either. I feel tickling is actually sexier and more powerful (whether thats drawn in a picture, written in a story, or acted out) if its consensual, and more of a tease then a domination. To be quite blunt, a lot of tickling material is down right pornographic. And as the need/drive/lust for such material grows, that filters down and effects what artists will draw. Its sad, at least to me. But I'm not sorry for myself, since I won't be affected.


You rock on too!


- Damien
 
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Correct

The more I look at it, the more I believe that were are so alike. I completely agree with the state of most of the tickling in our world today, seen as something just below SM. I think this is just plain garbage. That is why I appreciate people like you, me, Meachr, U.N.Owen, and many more who I am too tired to remember who have tried to create a fun tickling environment. While us, fun ticklers may be small in number, we are large in heart.

Keep the flame of fun alive and well, and we'll provide the compliments.
 
Yeah. Each time one of the three of us, and a few others say something, it only makes it more true that we are alike. A good thing here, in this environment.

And yes, tickling has been dare I say...corrupted? Vibrators have replaced barehands or feathers, moaning is more important then laughter, and orgasms are more important then the actual tickling.

"Erotic tickling" is what it has evolved to. While any opposing opinion could easily say tickling can be a sexual thing, I can argue that it CAN, not MUST, and that tickling can be controlled from going that far. I'm sure tickling makes good foreplay for couples. I have no issue with that. The act itself however, outside of that, isn't sexual in nature, people make it so.

For example, look at the above banner picture thats been newly added. Look at the pictures as they flash and disappear. A few of them are nude pictures. I ask, what does nudity have to do with tickling? Thats just soft porn by another name. And pictures like these are just getting more risque, and more frequent.

Finally, I put it to you, tickling is like a controlled substance. It's formula has been altered however for those that want it to be, and it is now a substance which has made drunkards and lushes out of the community. And people that are subceptable to this substance are easily influenced by it and its ongoing development into what I feel will just become a cesspool.


FLAME OF FUN! FLAME OF FUN! FLAME OF FUN!!! :blaugh:


- Damien
 
More more more

Deedlit looks like she stepped right out of Lord of the Rings... so much detail and care put into the drawing of her feet.. even wrinkles,and toe curlings( as someone with an intense foot fetish I really appreciate this) . But the rest of her is just as cute, right down to her mischevous look and the fairy hovering over her. You're a really excellent artist! 😀

Looking forward to many more updates!
Maggie!
 
Record of Lodoss War is a great fantasy anime in its own right, I'm glad this picture was good enough to relay Deedlit's likeness. 🙂

Thanks for the compliments. 🙂


- Damien
 
I noticed that you'd joined my group. I hope you enjoy it. As Critterlord said, the three of us seem to have a lot in common. I agree with you completely about tickling and sex being quite different. I agree also that they can be joined, in the right circumstances, but to me that's something very private, to be experienced only between the partners involved. I don't look for stories or images that involve that element. My own stories derive from fantasies I had when I was about 10 or 11, when sexuality is still barely formed. That's why they do focus on girls, but don't involve anything more than playful tickling and lots of laughing. The generic prettiness of the girl is important, but not anything specifically sexual about her -- an 11-year-old's view, you see. I've held onto that innocent viewpoint for my fiction. I still enjoy it, and I find the same tone in your tickling art.

I also like your non-tickling art, I should add. It also gets at that idea of "prettiness without sex" that still very much appeals to me.
 
I could have sworn I joined your group already, thats why I didn't register until now, sorry about that.

And yeah, everything you said I believe too. And I'm glad that your big enough to maintain that innocence about you and not compromising it dispite the pressure.

I haven't had the time to read one of your stories yet, but I've no doubt that when I do I'll be able to enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, theres nothing wrong with a sexy story, or even if theres sex in it. But theres a difference, as we've been talking about it between the sexy and the smutty. I'd much rather read a story that was great and made me glad I read it, then to read one that was equally great but left me feeling dirty afterwards for reading it.

I'm also glad that the same consistancy in your stories and in my art are seeable, and not just something we need to mention. I'm sure, even if other people don't say anything, that they can sense the difference, and not just because of the obvious.

Thank you again. ^__^ My regular (non-tickling) art makes up the bulk of my work (or at least what I've decided to share with the internet community) for now. But in order to please myself and please the fans or people that like it, my online, non-tickling works, are barefoot at least. I don't see the point in uploading my regular pictures that have nothing to do with the theme of tickling or feet. Perhaps, when I feel more secure about it, and I can find a way to copyright my works, I'll upload even my regular art. By the time I do that, I will have probably made a website of my own for it. At least that way, its more secure. I have no problem sharing my works with the world, so long as they respect me and my property. For some people, nay, alot of people, they need to see that copyright symbol before they get any wise ideas. I'd like to believe I can trust the world, but I really can't. Even at an amateur level like this.

- Damien
 
Interesting

I understand your fear of others stealing your work, but many times I have come across art that I really like, with no name. I hunt the artist down at places like here, and find the artist. (Hint, place your logo in hidden or hard to remove places.) So, even if someone steals your work, just keep your eyes out and an ear to the ground, and your bound to find the perpetrator eventually.

PS If they are trying to take your work, it means it is good enough to take. No one is going to steal garbage, right?

PPS I was just wondering, why aren't you a member of my group. I am sure you would like my collection of Webart, and I KNOW you'd like my stories.
 
Yes, I've already thought if what I could do, but there are people that are just as determinded to find a way around it as I am to find a way to protect it. But I'd feel more comfortable with a copyright. Scamwich has his works copyrighted. I'll have to ask him how he did it and what process he went through to get it. I've seen other artists ,who shall I say, don't have very good skills, and even they have their work copyrighted. I'm missing out.


PS: That may be true, but its still not ok. I'm sure you haven't forgotten what s133n3sh did to me right? He got off pretty easy for clearly taking my idea without any consultation or consideration. In fact, he still hasn't removed the picture from his site, nor has he given me credit there for it. Furthermore, if I wouldn't have said anything, nothing would have ever happened for me. Even though its in the open now, has it been dealt with? No. So its like the incident was for nothing. I'll just have to messege him yet again to remove it or to give me credit on the picture itself or under it in the discription. I'd even go so far as to link that picture to my site so people can see the original. Thats what I call justice.

So no, it doesn't matter if my work is good enough to steal or too crappy to. Theres no consolation in knowing my work is good enough to be stolen. The way I see it, it makes me more vulnerable to be a good artist. Theres no way to make sense out of nonsense.


PSS: Again, I could have sworn I joined your group before. I guess I haven't. And I have no doubt you have quality material.


PSSS: I joined, and I must say, you've got quite the collection of pictures and stories. Good for you. 🙂 I see you also have other known artist's work on your site. If you want, I could contribute a picture or two.

PSSSS: That goes for you too, U.N Owen.


- Damien
 
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