Any ideas for comfortable toe bondage?

[The Last Laugh]

Hello everyone,

Obviously, toe bondage can be very useful for tickling because it restrains the feet, makes the soles taut and vulnerable (if the toes are pulled back) and frees both the tickler's hands to do his/her job. It also offers a better view of the soles, for when you want to look at them in addition to simply tickling them.

The problem is, many ticklees find it too uncomfortable to stand for very long, at least the way I do it. It does tend to increase the effectiveness of the tickling, but what good is it if the ticklee is in pain and complains about it?

I usually use a very basic technique: either a single shoelace lasso fitted around both big toes (with one loop between the toes so that they can't get loose) or one shoelace lasso on each big toe to separate the feet. I usually do this with the ticklee's ankles in stocks.

If the ticklee doesn't have very flexible ankles, pulling back the toes already puts a lot of tension on the toes without movement. And even if she can stand the laces in a static position, the struggling caused by tickling results in her tugging on the laces as she tries to point her toes and such. This makes the loop(s) a little tighter and the lace(s) dig into the underside of the big toes. Often, a ticklee will ask me to release her toes after a very short time. Understandable, but annoying.

I assume there are better ways of doing this. I use wide, flat sneaker laces. Are thick, round laces more comfortable? How about a system involving leather straps or something similar that doesn't strangle the toes? Can it hold the toes as well as close-fitting shoelaces? How well does tying several toes separately distribute the tension? Is it a stable setup?

One alternative with the shoelaces is to simply tie the big toes together with them, without pulling them back. That way the feet are somewhat restrained, and one foot can't cover the other. But the feet can still move around, and you don't get taut soles, the ticklee protecting herself by scrunching her toes and soles. Not to mention that pointing her toes hides her soles to some extent.

What clever, convenient and comfortable tricks do you use to restrain the feet in a position that makes the soles very visible and vulnerable? Does it involve toe bondage or is your approach completely different? I'm mainly asking for methods that can be used with stocks (with metal loops screwed in the top, if it can help), but I'm also interested in any foot and toe restriction methods that can be used in a variety of situations.

I'm quite curious to read your suggestions, and I thank you in advance for your help.

Francois

 

[Myriads]

Comfortable and Toe Bondage don't tend to appear together in sentences very often. (if at all)

There is no natural position to bind feet in, like you describe, that's comfortable. The toes are delicate and force against them hurts. There is no way around it.

The nature of the bondage makes it hard to make it comfortable. The ropes/string/whatever you use are going to be hard on the toes no matter what. Stuggling will lead to pulling will lead to hurts. Wider, flatter ties are better, but you can't make it pain free.

I've seen some wonderful padded toe-cuffs, but they are fairly pricy and hard to come by. And if the lee pulls they can hurt also.

The best solutions I've seen involve special built restraint devices that strap the foot to a stock like board with a strap around and across the balls of the feet. Once the foot looses the ability to flex, the toes can no longer have directed force against them, and can be restrained with low pain. It's a lot of work though...

Best of luck

Myriads

 

[mysterytic]

Having never tried it I have a question

Toe bondage is something I have learned since the internet, never even knew it existed. My question, Is there a danger of dislocation of a toe joint? With all the "recoil" action, even when bound, I would be concern those small joints can not take the forces involved. Am I wrong? Thanks

 

[strtbottomjim]

I'll bet you'll find that the people into toe bondage are into TIGHT bondage on everything else. In addition to being "part of the kink", that would limit the type of dislocation danger you speak of.

A pic I saw somewhere had each toe separately bound upwards in two directions, lines going up in a "V" shape. That seemed to spread out the pressure across all the toes, avoiding damage to any one toe.

To me, toe-tying is taking the "fetish" foot aspect too far. As a 'lee, I don't mind toe work at all, though I'd be disappointed if the 'ler "focused there" to the exclusion of everything else (and wow do I love the "everything else" part! 😛). So I don't think I'd tolerate toe-tieing, because the pain interferes with the "tickle jangles".

 

[strtbottomjim]

I knew I'd seen this somewhere:

I'll pass .

 

[mysterytic]

It just looks to dangerous and painful

My take is, to each his own, but leave me out of this one. I want her laughing her lungs out, not feeling discomfort or pain. In the ler vs lee "war" the tickle receptors will be overwhelmed and the only sensations occupying soft tissue will be the painful ones🙁 Not for me.

 

[mercury1969j]

Toes Tied

Try to tie the shoelace into a loop 'before' slipping over the ticklee's foot. That way, it hopefully will not tighten as he/she struggles to get the foot free.

Another trick for rope bondage I have discovered is to use a cotton sock to wrap around an ankle or wrist before attaching a rope. Not over the hand, but around the wrist (for example), so that the rope can be made snug without cutting off blood circulation.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Hello Mysterytic,

I wouldn't worry about dislocating a toe using toe bondage. Toes are much tougher than you may think. There's no way the ticklee can tug on the laces hard enough to cause any damage whatsoever. Not the way I do it, anyway. If a ticklee were suspended by her toes, maybe, but that would be ridiculously sadistic and would have nothing to do with tickling.

In my case, my only problem is some discomfort, not injury or even significant pain.

I agree with you that it's not fun when the ticklee is in pain, and that's not at all what I'm trying to achieve with toe bondage. I just want the feet to be more immobile, so as to facilitate tickling (it's easier to tickle soles when they're not clenching, don't move around like crazy, don't cover each other, etc.) and increase the sensation in many cases.

Another reason for using toe bondage is for the visual effect. Not for the bondage itself (I'm not into bondage for its own sake), but the feet. It may still tickle very much even if the feet are defending themselves, but the action is kind of hard to follow with the eyes. It can be disappointing when you happen to like feet in addition to tickling.

Note that even when a ticklee does find the shoelaces uncomfortable, it doesn't automatically reduce the tickling sensation. She often laughs her ass off anyway, and because the feet are more vulnerable it often tickles more. It's not all that painful, just....well, uncomfortable.

Besides, when the ticklee starts complaining about toe discomfort, I remove the laces. I want to avoid pain, not find ways of helping the ticklee endure it. Some people don't have a problem with the laces, which is why I try them each time, hoping the ticklee's toes aren't too delicate. If she's not much of a foot-struggler she may not even put any significant tension on her toes. But I'm still hoping to find a convenient and comfortable way to restrain the feet, for those ticklees who dislike the laces.

Francois

 

[The Last Laugh]

Hello Mercury,

Maybe using loops that don't tighten can reduce the discomfort. I might give it a try. However, as far as I can tell, the problem for the ticklee isn't the strangling of the toes as much as the digging of the laces into the undersides and sides of the toe stems, especially when the ticklee pushes with her feet.

One problem with static loops is that they don't offer as snug a fit as lasso loops. A ticklee who's getting it good can struggle enough to slip out of the loops. That's why I usually wind the shoelace around the loop, between both big toes, the loop then forming a figure 8. Very hard to get out of.

Still, I guess static loops could hold on to the toes if I used them with the winding-around trick. Then there wouldn't be any tightening (not much, anyway) and the double loop would be snug enough to prevent the toes from escaping. The only problem left would be the tugging/digging.

Maybe adding some sort of cloth around the toes before using the laces would help, the same way it protects wrists and ankles from rope (note that I don't use rope myself, as I don't have the skill to do a secure yet comfortable job). Thanks for the suggestion.

Francois