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Avp 2

As long as they don't mislead the audiance into thinking it was a war when it was just a skirmish training exercise, then I'll forgive them.
 
Paul W.S. Anderson is the monster who's currently taking care of the Castlevania movie. That fact makes me want to take some 50 caliber aspirin and become an hero.
 
Don't pull a Mitchell Henderson over a movie! An i-pod, maybe, but not a movie.🙄
 
Look on the bright side - at least it isn't directed by Uwe Boll.

Thats a nice thought that can be applied to ALOT of movies.
 
Look on the bright side - at least it isn't directed by Uwe Boll.

Thats a nice thought that can be applied to ALOT of movies.

Yeah, but at least NO ONE on earth likes Uwe Boll. The problem with Anderson is that he's as shitty as Uwe Boll but still has annoying fanboys who will kiss his ass and call it ice cream. That's the problem.
 
Yeah, but at least NO ONE on earth likes Uwe Boll. The problem with Anderson is that he's as shitty as Uwe Boll but still has annoying fanboys who will kiss his ass and call it ice cream. That's the problem.

Well, one person likes Uwe Boll. And thats Uwe Boll himself, but thats beside the point, his opinion is nullified by his terrible movies.

To be honest, I've never heard of this Anderson chap, but now I feel compelled to check him out. If what you've said about him is true, then may any gods that exist help me.
 
Well, one person likes Uwe Boll. And thats Uwe Boll himself

Debatable.

To be honest, I've never heard of this Anderson chap, but now I feel compelled to check him out. If what you've said about him is true, then may any gods that exist help me.

He did Resident Evil, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, Mortal Kombat (his one semi-accurate video game film), and Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
 
I never liked the Aliens from the Aliens films. Bishop was cool though, especially in Alien 3.
 
According to initial plot releases: "warring alien and predator races descend on a small town, where unsuspecting residents must band together for any chance of survival."

Hopefully thats some misinformation or just a rumor. If its misinformation, it will suprize people critical of the first movie by not being what they expected, but in a good way. It will exceed their expectations.

If its just a rumor, then its likely not true, and is shit if it is.

Come on, a small town? Why a small town? That looks to me like an excuse for cutting back on location production costs and thinning the plot so it doesn't expand and is self-contained, yet again.

And the whole "humans band together while stuck in the middle" theme is the same damn thing from the first movie. That, and "a small town" suggests a small struggle, which suggests that instead of a training exercise we're getting a street fight. How lame. They were supposed to give us a war the first time and a war the second time. Not little isolated skirmishes and matches. If you really want to capture the conflict of the series, it cannot be done in isolated little incidents that really don't affect the fate of the world or of the country they take place in.

I get the feeling this is going to be more like a horror movie than an action one, this time around with humans hiding under tables and in cellars and little kids crying and their fathers going out to see whats up and getting killed. It just has that vibe to it, with a discription like that.

If I had any say in this, the movie would be where the Predators and the humans band together to fight the Alien horde thats invaded Earth, and theres large-scale wars all over the planet, but we focus on America and we get shots of american troops, and tanks, and fighter jets and missles and bombs and shit. And the Predators are like generals leading the humans around on foot and giving supporting fire and shit like that from their aircraft while the aliens hives are absorbing cities and mutating them and creating new hives as they take territories, and they attack in huge ass waves with drones as cannon fodder and then warriors and guards taking on Preds and human tanks and shit but its never ending so they have to find the queen and they do and kill her, but like some of the main pred characters die and so do some of the human characters, but they win and start killing the infestation of the land itself, but in the end theres like a single egg left and the the creature goes into the sewer or something and lives down there until some city worker goes down there to fix a pipe or some shit, and it gets him and the movie ends at hinting that the alien threat will rise again or some shit like that.

Shit. I said shit alot of times. OH SHIT!
 
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There will be a new AVP? EXCELLENT.
I loved that movie. Though it was too short.
Adn that made things slightly less good than it could've been, the movie was 'hurried' a bit.
 
According to initial plot releases: "warring alien and predator races descend on a small town, where unsuspecting residents must band together for any chance of survival."

Hopefully thats some misinformation or just a rumor. If its misinformation, it will suprize people critical of the first movie by not being what they expected, but in a good way. It will exceed their expectations.

If its just a rumor, then its likely not true, and is shit if it is.

Come on, a small town? Why a small town? That looks to me like an excuse for cutting back on location production costs and thinning the plot so it doesn't expand and is self-contained, yet again.

And the whole "humans band together while stuck in the middle" theme is the same damn thing from the first movie. That, and "a small town" suggests a small struggle, which suggests that instead of a training exercise we're getting a street fight. How lame. They were supposed to give us a war the first time and a war the second time. Not little isolated skirmishes and matches. If you really want to capture the conflict of the series, it cannot be done in isolated little incidents that really don't affect the fate of the world or of the country they take place in.

I get the feeling this is going to be more like a horror movie than an action one, this time around with humans hiding under tables and in cellars and little kids crying and their fathers going out to see whats up and getting killed. It just has that vibe to it, with a discription like that.

If I had any say in this, the movie would be where the Predators and the humans band together to fight the Alien horde thats invaded Earth, and theres large-scale wars all over the planet, but we focus on America and we get shots of american troops, and tanks, and fighter jets and missles and bombs and shit. And the Predators are like generals leading the humans around on foot and giving supporting fire and shit like that from their aircraft while the aliens hives are absorbing cities and mutating them and creating new hives as they take territories, and they attack in huge ass waves with drones as cannon fodder and then warriors and guards taking on Preds and human tanks and shit but its never ending so they have to find the queen and they do and kill her, but like some of the main pred characters die and so do some of the human characters, but they win and start killing the infestation of the land itself, but in the end theres like a single egg left and the the creature goes into the sewer or something and lives down there until some city worker goes down there to fix a pipe or some shit, and it gets him and the movie ends at hinting that the alien threat will rise again or some shit like that.

Shit. I said shit alot of times. OH SHIT!


Bar the 'shit', you make some great points.
The Preds were really handycapped in AVP1... hope we'll see them full force like in the novels or games.
They really went down fast except the young one.
Heh... he was cool.
And off course had to die.
Also the 'whoever wins... we loose' sucked as it was a human that survived... .
 
According to initial plot releases: "warring alien and predator races descend on a small town, where unsuspecting residents must band together for any chance of survival."

Hopefully thats some misinformation or just a rumor. If its misinformation, it will suprize people critical of the first movie by not being what they expected, but in a good way. It will exceed their expectations.

If its just a rumor, then its likely not true, and is shit if it is.

Come on, a small town? Why a small town? That looks to me like an excuse for cutting back on location production costs and thinning the plot so it doesn't expand and is self-contained, yet again.

And the whole "humans band together while stuck in the middle" theme is the same damn thing from the first movie. That, and "a small town" suggests a small struggle, which suggests that instead of a training exercise we're getting a street fight. How lame. They were supposed to give us a war the first time and a war the second time. Not little isolated skirmishes and matches. If you really want to capture the conflict of the series, it cannot be done in isolated little incidents that really don't affect the fate of the world or of the country they take place in.

I get the feeling this is going to be more like a horror movie than an action one, this time around with humans hiding under tables and in cellars and little kids crying and their fathers going out to see whats up and getting killed. It just has that vibe to it, with a discription like that.

If I had any say in this, the movie would be where the Predators and the humans band together to fight the Alien horde thats invaded Earth, and theres large-scale wars all over the planet, but we focus on America and we get shots of american troops, and tanks, and fighter jets and missles and bombs and shit. And the Predators are like generals leading the humans around on foot and giving supporting fire and shit like that from their aircraft while the aliens hives are absorbing cities and mutating them and creating new hives as they take territories, and they attack in huge ass waves with drones as cannon fodder and then warriors and guards taking on Preds and human tanks and shit but its never ending so they have to find the queen and they do and kill her, but like some of the main pred characters die and so do some of the human characters, but they win and start killing the infestation of the land itself, but in the end theres like a single egg left and the the creature goes into the sewer or something and lives down there until some city worker goes down there to fix a pipe or some shit, and it gets him and the movie ends at hinting that the alien threat will rise again or some shit like that.

Shit. I said shit alot of times. OH SHIT!

I have no idea if this movie already came out, but, I wouldn't like any teaming up of any two factions.

The three faction system works wonders.

My plot proposal...

Humans, small village... chillin'.

Aliens are attacking earth, for... well, whatever reason they are... one escapes from a bio-something or other lab or something where they were experimenting on it, or something.

anyway, the preds are looking around, and figure out this small town's about to be attacked, so, they move in to clear out the village of any hosts that the aliens could use...

so, it kinda looks like there's gonna be humans getting smashed the whole way around... but, the military start catching onto this whole planned attack by the preds, so they send the military, just a small unit of specially trained troops or something, there's the main character right there, regular special unit guy, who's got a pretty face and a nice hair cut.

Anyway, the attacks start happening, but the humans ambush the would-be-ambushers, the preds, and the aliens attack mere minutes after the opening volley, throwing the human plan awry, the preds start taking people's heads off and then start fighting against the aliens too, causing this huge battle in a small town in like... new england, for example...

This scene should be like... 15 minutes long. Anyway, the prez starts hearing his phone ring, and he's like, "Send the entire army!" and then the whole world's up in chaos with the aliens running over New England entirely, including a scene where they attack a football stadium full of "survivors" and start eating them and stuff, and the preds come in and try to slaughter everyone but the main character guy who survived the first battle somehow ended up protecting the football stadium and people are dying everywhere and aliens are shooting acid and stuff...

anyway, cut to a scene of more violence and stuff, but keep it contained within the New England and surrounding states... that way, the ultimate end of the movie, the president orders a nuke to be dropped on american soil, and blaaaaaaaaaam, everybody thinks the aliens are all dead, and the preds too, but, that was only a small segment of the pred community, and of course the aliens are waaaay to reproductive to go down in a nuclear blast, so, they got a queen chillin' in this cave in New York or something, and the end scene could be a bunch of aliens rushing in to attack some big city in NY, like... I dunno, New York, or something, and the title of the next movie would be,

"AvP:3"

with the awesome catch title,

"The Aliens and the Predators have a new enemy, the gangs of New York..."

oh, and it has to be the most violent movie ever, but, not lame action movie style, like "The Marine" but, more like... violence like... I don't think there's a movie with the amount of violence I want for this movie.

Oh, somewhere in the beginning, the main character has to save this girl, the one the main character always saves and you think there's gonna be some sort of love interest, yeah, but like... 4 maybe 5 minutes later she gets turned into goop by a predator. Yeah... and he takes her head and wears it as a necklace, and the main character sorta has a rival pred type guy, but he gets killed by some random alien, and nothing ever comes of it.
 
I just don't want what they gave us last time; anything would be better than that. Movies like this would have more staying power if they put more effort into them. The last movie felt rushed. They either need to make the movies longer so they can have more plot development and longer action scenes, or they need to do the best they can with a two hour time frame.

If AVP2 isn't any better than AVP this series is going to be hard to salvage. One might say we're already fortunate enough that they even made a movie, let alone two. But, quite frankly, I'd rather see a Predator 3 than another one of these if AVP2 bombs.
 
theres alot of great points here i loved the 1st film got it on dvd hopefully the creators wont mess it up
 
I think a big problem, which looks ironic at first, is that they presented the movie from the vantage point of who the better race is. "Survival of the fittest" as the new movie is called.

I actually think thats the problem. See, rather than just showing a bunch of violence and action and it not mattering who is the better race, they try and lead the audiance on the idea that one is superior by showing these short bouts with aliens and predators as if these skirmishes really prove anything in the larger scheme of things. While that makes for interesting fan conversation, the movies suffer because of it because its all a contained environment with no real danger outside of it.

People just want to see violence and action. I don't think people care so much whether one is proven to be better, since its not about that, its about seeing both races do as much damage to eachother as possible and us being entertained by it. And the only way to achieve that is to make it a war where there are massacres, not casualties, from all sides. To do anything less than a full-blown war downplays the seriousness of the situation and the series itself. What we got last time was not a war, so we're forced to rely on two hours worth of a cat and mouse game to make up our minds. That will never be enough and will never truely satisfy anything.

By making these short, isolated incident movies, they're not showing off the true potential for conquest or the power of either race, Preds or Aliens. We get to see them do cool things, but we don't see them at their best and the humans are just there as plot devices. The fact they make Earth the place where all this happens is another problem, as they limit themselves to a single location, which, by the end of the movie, will be resolved and back to normal making it so what happened didn't really ammount to anything since 99% of the rest of the world wasn't even aware of it.

This feels alot like a boxing match and this sequel is just bout 2 of a personal feud, rather than something that affects everyone and everything.
 
I think the problem with the movie was that it shouldn't have been made in the first place...

The FPS games were more than adequate, IMO.
 
Well, we do know one thing.

The greatest enemy of the Predators has yet to appear in the movies.

That enemy being...

Osaka.
 

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Well, we do know one thing.

The greatest enemy of the Predators has yet to appear in the movies.

That enemy being...

Osaka.

Many internets for you, good sir. Azumanga Daioh girls don't sweat no Predator.

My business manager and I are pleased and approve! 😛aw:
 

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