Batman vs. Darth Vader

[TMF Jeff]

I love when they first detect Batman and Vader goes "He is here for the Kryptonian." Somehow that merges the two universes perfectly in my mind.



This is an alternate ending.

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

I love super-power beatdown!
that was a clever way to merge the two

 

[Uktickler]

That was fun!

Although Vadar would beat Batman anyday!

I might go and see the new film Superman Versus Batman, but the name sounds ridicous as if Batman (a guy with some gadets) could stand even a slight chance against Superman, I mean come on! Superman can spin the whole world the other way round, move so fast you can't even see him and is stronger than well anything, totally blast proof and indestrucable, sure he has 'one' 'weakness' in kryptonite but seriously getting it anywhere near him is just luck! Oh and not like there is any kryponite on earth anyway lol.

 

[The_Darkweb]

And the winner would be Chuck Norris, it's true cause I read it in a book

 

[TMF Jeff]

I agree with you, the idea of Batman fighting Superman is ridiculous.

To pull an example right out of this thread, in the super power beatdown Vader defeats Batman, and when they do the alternate ending the only way Batman can win that fight is by freeing Superman to save him. And Superman makes infinitely short work of Vader.

The whole idea basically comes from The Dark Knight Returns, when Frank Miller had Batman beat Superman down. But in that scenario Superman had just been in the center of a nuclear blast, and then he got softened up with a face full of kryptonite. And then even still, it ends with Superman mostly just being pissed off and tearing Batman's armor apart like paper, and Batman has to fake a heart-attack to get out of it.

I haven't seen the movie but I think the scene where Superman catches a huge bullet fired by Batman is setting up a similar thing. In the comic Green Arrow fired a kryptonite arrow at Superman, and when Superman caught it it exploded in his face. I think the missile he catches in the movie is going to turn out to be full of kryptonite gas. Which is at least a little justifiable because this is a version of Superman who doesn't know his own limitations yet.

But it should be like the comic was, where the kryptonite gives him a brief advantage but in the long run Batman is still hopelessly outmatched.

That was fun!

Although Vadar would beat Batman anyday!

I might go and see the new film Superman Versus Batman, but the name sounds ridicous as if Batman (a guy with some gadets) could stand even a slight chance against Superman, I mean come on! Superman can spin the whole world the other way round, move so fast you can't even see him and is stronger than well anything, totally blast proof and indestrucable, sure he has 'one' 'weakness' in kryptonite but seriously getting it anywhere near him is just luck! Oh and not like there is any kryponite on earth anyway lol.

 

[TMF Jeff]

And the winner would be Chuck Norris, it's true cause I read it in a book

Weirdly, that seems to have never been done. This is as close as I could find.

 

[ticklerpilot]

It's fun to think of different match ups and how those stories would play out. I'm still hoping someday we get DC marvel crossover.....but I doubt that will ever happen...too much story rights this and names owned that

 

[TMF Jeff]

It's fun to think of different match ups and how those stories would play out. I'm still hoping someday we get DC marvel crossover.....but I doubt that will ever happen...too much story rights this and names owned that

That would be awesome, and there's precedent in comic books at least. But you're probably right about the legal rights preventing it - it took a near miracle of deal-making for Spider Man to appear in the Captain America movie, and those are all Marvel properties.

 

[BlasterMaster]

Unless Batman can find a way to prevent Vader from telekinetically assaulting his internal organs, I'd say Vader's victory is pretty much assured.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

I personally think Batman is over-rated. The only reason he wins so much is one reason...the writers are on his side. And having the writers on your side is more powerful than even The Force.

 

[The_Darkweb]

Any body ever read the Dark Knight trades, old batman kicks superman's ass in battle armore with the help of Kryptonight so it's not so far fetched. I won't go to see Bat b Super because Luthor looks lame and the Doomday monster is stupid. Comic movies aren't made for comic fans, even thow we make the industry. It's a betral of the fans imo.

 

[The_Darkweb]

I personally think Batman is over-rated. The only reason he wins so much is one reason...the writers are on his side. And having the writers on your side is more powerful than even The Force.

You could say that about every comic hero who survived.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

You could say that about evety comic hero who survived.

You could, but I wouldn't, and I'd disagree with anybody who would. If a hero outclasses his opponent, it's not at all far fetched for him to win. When Daredevil would kick the snot out of Turk and Grotto, it made sense that Daredevil would win. You can't pin that victory on favoritism of the writers.

But sometimes a hero is outclassed by his opponent, such as when Spider-Man fought Juggernaut. In that case, it was only by dumb luck that Juggernaut wandered by mistake into a pool of freshly poured concrete. It didn't kill him, but it left Juggy with only one option...to sink to the bottom of the pool and/or wait for the concrete to dry. This is a device of the writer (in this case, Roger Stern) to make chance and fate abandon impartiality and instead work in favor of the hero.

 

[BlasterMaster]

Batman literally exploited Superman's only freaking weakness (aka Kryptonite) by using green kryptonite gauntlets to freaking pummel Sup's into a bloody mess. However, and I'll say this as many times as I possibly can to emphasize it throughly, the writer of that mini-series is an sexist idiot. Not only did he turn Dick Grayson into some sort of sociopathic killer (which Batman apparently kills without so much as shedding a single tear) but he also did the whole Bats versus Sups fight wrong. First off, Superman is not an idiot.

He would know Batman would use kryptonite against him so he probably would show up wearing some sort of lead-based armor. Batman is DEFINITELY not an idiot and would realize Superman would prepare for their fight so Bruce would wear his own powered Bat-Armor and as soon as he punched a hole in Kent's defenses Wayne would expose Kal'El to GOLD KRYPTONITE! Bang, no more Superman! Gold Kryptonite negates any Kryptonian ultraviolet light based powers for a limited time.

In short, they basically become normal humans (or in Kent's case, an exceptionally strong human with knowledge of ancient krytpnian martial arts and psychic defenses). Still, Sups wouldn't be able to win against Batman if Bruce had any amount of time to prepare. We know Bruce has access to green kryptonite so having access to the gold variety isn't too far off a bet. So, yeah, the fight was ultimate dumb and not smart. It's unfortunate that the guy in charge of that mini-series is now basically running DC.

It probably explains why Marvel is beating DC by a crapton. However, while Batman has ways to off Sups, I don't know if he has any way of bypassing Vader's telekinetic abilities (which, in a nutshell, is Vader's major advantage). Vader can telekinetically choke an artery in a person's neck until it ruptures. I imagine the Dark Lord of the Sith would have no issue doing the same thing with, say, Bruce's liver? Or Spine! Hell, try his heart or freaking BRAIN for that matter. It's a wonder Vader doesn't go for a force choke / force crush of a person's brain, like, ALL THE FREAKING TIME!

Still, that's it's own kettle of fish and I won't get into plot holes or lack of science in the Star Wars setting.

 

[The_Darkweb]

From what I understand about Gold Kryptonight, it is known to exist to comic readers, but Superman has never actually encountered it. Also ol' Kal is susseptible (sp) to magic, as in he has no resistance to it. I believe Batman has some knowledge of the Occult and Bruce Wayne could probably afford some powerful mystic artifacts.

 

[The_Darkweb]

You could, but I wouldn't, and I'd disagree with anybody who would. If a hero outclasses his opponent, it's not at all far fetched for him to win. When Daredevil would kick the snot out of Turk and Grotto, it made sense that Daredevil would win. You can't pin that victory on favoritism of the writers.

But sometimes a hero is outclassed by his opponent, such as when Spider-Man fought Juggernaut. In that case, it was only by dumb luck that Juggernaut wandered by mistake into a pool of freshly poured concrete. It didn't kill him, but it left Juggy with only one option...to sink to the bottom of the pool and/or wait for the concrete to dry. This is a device of the writer (in this case, Roger Stern) to make chance and fate abandon impartiality and instead work in favor of the hero.

Yep, Turk gets his ass kicked by Daredevil, then I write a story where
Horn Head gets scines congestion, witch cancells out his powers and Turk beats his ass while mugging Matt Murdock. Done, & done!

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

"Scines congestion" cancelling out his powers? Bwahahaha!! That sounds like an Onion parody!