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Bush's war plans are a cover-up, Byrd says

ShiningIce

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An intersting article.....



Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., said President Bush's plans to invade Iraq are a conscious effort to distract public attention from growing problems at home.

"This administration, all of a sudden, wants to go to war with Iraq," Byrd said. "The [political] polls are dropping, the domestic situation has problems.... So all of a sudden we have this war talk, war fervor, the bugles of war, drums of war, clouds of war.

"Don't tell me that things suddenly went wrong. Back in August, the president had no plans.... Then all of a sudden this country is going to war," Byrd told the Senate on Friday.

"Are politicians talking about the domestic situation, the stock market, weaknesses in the economy, jobs that are being lost, housing problems? No."

Byrd warned of another Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. Passed on Aug. 7, 1964, that resolution handed President Lyndon Johnson broad powers to escalate the war in Vietnam, a conflict that cost 58,202 American lives and millions of Asian lives.

"Congress will be putting itself on the sidelines," Byrd told the Senate. "Nothing would please this president more than having such a blank check handed to him."

Byrd said his belief in the Constitution will prevent him from voting for Bush's war resolution. "But I am finding that the Constitution is irrelevant to people of this administration."

Sens. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., both praised Byrd after he spoke.

"It is the height of patriotism to ask such hard questions," Clinton said. "No one exemplifies that more than the senior senator from West Virginia."

Byrd said, "Before the nation is committed to war, before we send our sons and daughters to battle in faraway lands, there are critical questions that must be asked. To date, the answers from the administration have been less than satisfying."

Byrd repeatedly said Bush has failed to give members of Congress any evidence about any immediate danger from Iraq. Byrd also criticized his speech to the United Nations.

"Instead of offering compelling evidence that the Iraqi regime had taken steps to advance its weapons program, the president offered the U.N. more of a warning than an appeal for support.

"Instead of using the forum of the U.N. General Assembly to offer evidence and proof of his claims, the president basically told the nations of the world that you are either with me, or against me," Byrd said.

"We must not be hell-bent on an invasion until we have exhausted every other possible option to assess and eliminate Iraq's supposed weapons of mass destruction program. We must not act alone. We must have the support of the world."

Byrd said Congress needs solid evidence and answers to several specific questions, including:

Does Saddam Hussein pose an imminent threat to the U.S.?
Should the United States act alone?
What would be the repercussions in the Middle East and around the globe?
How many civilians would die in Iraq?
How many American forces would be involved?
How do we afford this war?
Will the U.S. respond with nuclear weapons if Saddam Hussein uses chemical or biological weapons against U.S. soldiers?
Does the U.S. have enough military and intelligence resources to fight wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, while mobilizing resources to prevent attacks on our own shores?

Byrd said the proposed resolution Bush sent Congress on Thursday would be the "broadest possible grant of war powers to any president in the history of our Republic. The resolution is a direct insult and an affront to the powers given to Congress."

Byrd also criticized Bush's request for power to carry out "pre-emptive attacks" and send troops to Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, the West Bank and anywhere else in the Middle East.

"I cannot believe the gall and the arrogance of the White House in requesting such a broad grant of war powers," Byrd said. "This is the worst kind of election-year politics."

To contact staff writer Paul J. Nyden, use e-mail or call 348-5164.
 
Byrd's lucky he's not living back in Nazi Germany, where the leader had absolute power over a police state and civilians acted as spies for a government who was too busy covering up domestic issues with talk of a foreign war.

Oops... :blush: :scared: TIPS is onto me!
 
It's funny that he thinks this is all of a sudden 🙂
 
Heh

God I love this guy. He is right about everything! Even though most Democrats would be happy without him, I sure do love his opinions!!
 
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Pres. Bush wants broader powers and thinks the U.S. Congress shouldn't question him. I thought the U.S. was a democratic society.
 
If Bush wants Byrd to shut up, he should offer him a huge, worthless, multibillion dollar pork barrel project built in West Virginia. Byrd will geek - guaranteed.

Strelnikov
 
Since Byrd already has both IRS and FBI headquarters newly built in WVA,which organization would get the newest one?

Most recently,the Senate Dems are whining about Bush and a request for power.Two problems:

1...The news article they are whining about,in which Bush is blamed for pointing at the Dems,was not nearly accurate.The "Democratic Senate" part of that speech,which is the focal point of the complaint,was added in by a Washington Post reporter,and was never part of the speech.This was picked up by Fox news.

2...The powers Bush wants are to keep the Homeland Security bureau under control.The idea is enable the firing of unreliable,incompetent
employees quickly,rather than go through a long civil service action.
I've belonged to 3 unions in my lifetime,and have absolutely no problem with employees organizing in general.However,with the reports of incompetency with screeners,security personnel, and the immediate problems at hand, I would liken this situation as almost military.There may well be a reason for organization,but the situation involved doesn't allow for it.You have to be able to move people when necessary,and remove them as well.
 
R. Davis

How right you are about party politics.The current state of affairs there is hardly worthy of the best place on the planet.
 
I would like to say that Ted Kennedy made a good speech about the reservations he has about invading Iraq. Now I disagree with him but he addressed issues, not supposed conspiracies or things in Newsweek which never really were. This is what politcs is supposed to be. Daschle and Byrd could take a few lessons here.
 
While I don't think much of Clinton as a person or a president, I would not like to see such attacks on him in our present "war on terror" situation. As I said I don't have any problems with people disagreeing with the president on going to war but talk about issues like Kennedy did, not made up mumbo jumbo. So you are wrong I would have commented on it and not liked it if the present situation arose while Clinton was in office. The problem is I think Clinton would have depended too much on the UN but I could be wrong. If he did want to attack Iraq he would have had my support 100% despite any disagreements on other issues.
 
As usual, I'm just gonna throw my 2 cents in.

To me, there is something suspicious about September 11. The fact that we have suddenly turned our attention to Iraq without finishing the whole bin laden thing only convinces me further. Something is up. To avoid offending anyone (if I already have, sorry) I'll stop there.

As far as "crazy" conspiracy theories, there are some out there, but that phrase is used all too quickly when people simply don't want to believe something. Then the theory is discarded without any consideration.
 
I find it amazing that people will hold the highest office in the land to the lowest standards. Yeah lots of people cheat on their wives, certainly lots of people lie, lots of people drink, lots of people do a lot of bad things. Doesn't mean if I know about it that I want them as my presidient. Also I think JFK had a lot better taste in women but I digress. I think it was the perjury that bothered me most and yes it was perjury. No matter how you weasel around it or debate the meaning of the word "is" in the end there was deceit and dishonesty.
 
By the way ShiningIce. Good luck in boot camp. We may not agree on a lot of political stuff but I do have a lot of respect for you and anyone else who joins the armed services. Anyway let us know how things are going.

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Yes, good luck, Ice. Keep in touch.

BTW, the current war talk IS NOT from political expediency. If war with Iraq was politically expedient, Bill Clinton would have done it. Instead, he responded to attacks on American embassies and the USS Cole with drive by shootings from submarines, and left the mess for his successor to deal with.

Strelnikov
 
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