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California elects the "terminator"....

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· California voters recall Gov. Gray Davis
· Arnold Schwarzenegger wins replacement field


Davis Out, Schwarzenegger Wins
By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press



Recall Davis?
· Yes 57.5%
· No 42.6%

Replacement Candidates
· Bustamante 548,069
· McClintock 225,799
· Schwarzenegger 951,437


Source: AP


LOS ANGELES (Oct. 7) - Californians banished Gov. Gray Davis just 11 months into his second term and elected action hero Arnold Schwarzenegger to replace him Tuesday - a Hollywood ending to one of the most extraordinary political melodramas in the nation's history.

Voters traded a career Democratic politician who became one of the state's most despised chief executives for a moderate Republican megastar who had never before run for office. Davis became the first California governor pried from office and only the second nationwide to be recalled.

Early tallies showed the recall favored by 1,019,874 voters, or 57.5 percent, and opposed by 755,375, or 42.6 percent.

Other early returns had Schwarzenegger ahead with 862,217 votes; Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante with 482,376; Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock with 200,970; and Green Party candidate Peter Camejo with 25,916.

Schwarzenegger prevailed despite a flurry of negative publicity in the campaign's final days, surviving allegations that he had groped women and accusations that as a young man he expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler.

The 56-year-old Austrian immigrant - husband of television journalist Maria Shriver - finds himself in charge of the nation's most populated state with an economy surpassed only by those of several countries.

Schwarzenegger promised to return the shine to a Golden State beset by massive budget problems and riven by deep political divisions.

Voters faced two questions - whether to recall Davis, and who among the other candidates should replace him if he was removed. They chose to get rid of the incumbent and put Schwarzenegger in his place.

About seven in 10 voters interviewed in exit polls said they had made up their minds how they would vote on the recall question more than a month before the election.

Long lines were reported at polling places through the day. By late afternoon, Terri Carbaugh, a spokeswoman for the Secretary of State, said a turnout of 60 percent appeared likely, higher than the 50.7 percent who voted in last November's gubernatorial election. It would be the highest percentage to vote in a gubernatorial election since 1982.


"I've never been so busy, ever."
-Patti Negri, a 12-year polling supervisor veteran
 
Most definitely glad I'm not living there...not that I was considering it. Wouldn't want to face my morning coffee knowing that so many people have confidence in a man with such iffy credentials. Good grief 🙁
 
hey it aint that bad

We got a cocaine snorting dude up in the white house, now we could have muscle bound pervert in california. Man im moving to canada!!
 
The Governator 1

Now Arnie has won the title role for this new movie "The Governator 1", I wonder who will direct it, and who's behind it... 🙄

Oh wait a minute, I think I'm in the wrong cinema! 😛
 
I hear that Senator Stallone and Chief Justice Van Damme are also thrilled.

Drew
 
While this whole debacle has provided endless late-night fodder for comics, it's a travesty of the American electoral system. Only in California would this guy get elected based on ads claiming "I know what to do. Trust me."

Arnie's going to be a puppet governor, and California's going to wind up run by the White House. The things the GOP won't do to steal lost elections...🙄 This guy has been a figurehead from the word GO.

Interesting note: Exit polls showed that 68% of those that voted for Arnold were concerned that he had adressed no real issues. Only in California...
 
See, Florida's not the only state with idiots at the ballot box.
 
'Entertainment' is a concept that must, in California, pervade every aspect of life. After all, this is not only, as Archie Bunker exclaimed, "the land of fruits and nuts, only the nuts are fruitier and the fruits are nuttier", but it is also the land of the Drive-Thru Mortuary. And, since politics and government itself is viewed as merely another form of entertainment, is this a surprise?
Face it, folks: Cruz Bustamante and Gary Coleman are not nearly as entertaining as "The Governator." But then, I would love to be a fly on the wall the day he actually has to deal with legislators from Compton. And Berkeley. Now, for me, THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT!
 
Re: hey it aint that bad

AphxA said:
We got a cocaine snorting dude up in the white house, now we could have muscle bound pervert in california. Man im moving to canada!!
No, no you're not AA, we have enough problems of our own...I thank you.😛
I hear that Senator Stallone and Chief Justice Van Damme are also thrilled.
Drew
:blaugh: :blaugh:
Only in California would this guy get elected based on ads claiming "I know what to do. Trust me."
Dave2112
:blaugh: "I'm going to ooopen up da books an' look at all da cwaaazy spending!!"

So, let the bloke have his day in the sun as a politician. Californians may be back at the polls for yet another recall vote within a year. Even the Kennedy's can't save Aaaanuld, now. The poor bastard's gonna get ripped apart...(get it? "ripped" - ok I'll stop)

"Now we aaa alone." And so forth.

Cheers.😀
 
Re: Re: hey it aint that bad

Moses25 said:
Californians may be back at the polls for yet another recall vote within a year.
Maybe then it'll be a "Total Recall"... 😛
 
I just can't believe that we now have Arnold as our governor. He's never given any idea on how he plans on resolving our budgetary issues. His disrespect for women is just now becoming evident. He can't talk without a script in front of him. Oh man. People seemed to vote on what his "characters" portrayed in the movies, not what HE has ever done.

Now we have the Terminator as our governor in California and a Shrub in the White House. What is this country coming to?

The most interesting thing I noticed in this election was the separation of the state. Southern California seemed to vote more for the recall and for Arnold while Northern California seemed to vote for No recall and for anyone other than Arnold.
 
This quite possibly demonstrates the powerful role the media plays in influencing elections, whether intentional or not. I can't pretend to know exactly what the campaign coverage was like in California, but I can assume that Arnold dominated the media. Here in Ohio, news sources made less reference to the actual nature of the recall election than the simple fact that Arnold was running for governer. For a man who didn't seem to have much of a platform, he sure got a lot of votes.

Also, it's amazing that allegations of sexual misconduct seem to have become more of a non-issue among Republican supporters.
 
I'm amazed at two things- One a republican managed to gain popular support in California, and second that he won in spite of the media frenzy against him in the past few days. A lot of the major papers and news spots have been highlighting his allegations of misconduct and other sundry opinions in a manner on the headlines which is better found in the editorials.

The fact that Arnold had a clear majority will make it harder for people to contest the legitimacy of the election. For good or ill, California had a recall option on the ballot and the popular will showed people wanted Davis out and Arnold in. Part of this is the bang up job Davis did as governor and reflective of the disenchantment they had with him and the party interests he represents.

I cannot say whether or not Arnold will do a good job. He's been a spokesman for the republican party and has done work with them in a charity capacity- Spokesman for the presidential fitness campaign if I recall during Bush's (senior) term. I think that he'll be aware of his precarious decision and do the thing our current president has done- accept his limitations and seek aid and advice from those more able and then do his best to facilitate those decisions. I think in the fashion of Teddy Roosevelt, he can use his current position and popularity to force legislative change to hopefully pull CA out of its crisis.

As for the recall, it's done, over with, and I'll be happy if I don't see one again in a long, long time. I'm not too up on Davis' situation other than the incompetence that seems to have marked his short termed tenure, but I was not aware of any outright corruption or illegal activities. He should not have been recalled, unless it was on those grounds. I'd hate to see this go from a Total Recall- to a We'll Re -Member it for your Wholesale with other states.
 
As a citizen of California, I didn't vote for Arnold, but I'm willing to give him a chance and see what he does. I think, however, it will be hard for him to live up to his campaign promises, but I wish him luck.
 
From what I understand, the State of California is in such dire financial trouble, that it is truly conceivable that Arnold could call Gray Davis on the phone a few months from now and ask him if he wants his job back.
I wonder if he really knows what he's gotten himself into...
 
A History Question...............

....does anyone have any information on the political careers of other right wing Austrians in the past? how did they get on? what impression did they leave on the world?
 
Re: A History Question...............

red indian said:
....does anyone have any information on the political careers of other right wing Austrians in the past? how did they get on? what impression did they leave on the world?
Heehee, red! 😛

A wise man once said: "What I admire most about Austria is the fact that they made Beethoven an Austrian and Hitler a German!"... 🙄

Counterquestion: Who made Arnie an American???
 
I'm certainly not suggesting any correlation between famous Austrian political figures of the past and present, but that last post made me abrubtly spit up my beverage all over the keyboard and monitor.
 
Re: A History Question...............

red indian said:
....does anyone have any information on the political careers of other right wing Austrians in the past? how did they get on? what impression did they leave on the world?

For those who do not read history, Red Indian is refering to the fact that Adolf Hitler was born in Austria, in the town of Braunau am Inn, on April 20, 1889.

His autobiography, Mein Kampf, begins with these words: (Obviously, I am using an English translation of it.)

"Today it seems to me providential that fate should have chosen Braunau am Inn as my birthplace. For this little town lies on the boundary between two German states which we of the younger generation at least have made it our life-work to reunite by every means at our disposal."

He achieved this goal in March of 1938 in the Anschluss, which unified Austria and Germany into one Reich.



Let me say that Arnold bears no responsibility whatsoever for the actions of other Austians who made political careers for themselves elsewhere. Despite attempts by the press to smear him by claiming the contrary, Arnold has always detested the Nazi movement, and condemned his own father's part in it.

In fact, if I lived in Los Angeles instead of New York, I would have voted for Arnold myself.
 
I wasn't crazy about the recall, but I hope Arnold can turn things around for my state. He's a moderate Republican representative, which is something the GOP desperately needs, and if he isn't successful, he might hurt Bush in 2004 (remember, California has 54 electoral votes), so the left-wingers like me will still have something to cheer about.
 
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