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Val's imput on the tragedy of cambodia and the region can bring out a good point that can end this argument about the media and right and left wing.
When the right wing of the US first launched their major (illegal even by their standards) attack against cambodia it was kept fairly quiet. Im sure val can give u a more accurate statistic but hundres of thousands of people were killed. In the aftermath of the tragedy some 600,000 people would die of the side affects, hunger, napalm, bad water, etcc.. this was completely ignored by all media, and of course since they caused it, the right wing government.
It was because of this that authoritarian genocidist pol pot was able to grab power. He couldnt have done it without the US right wing destroying the country, and also it drummed up actual support for his regime. Just like bin laden, could he be as powerful as he is today without the billions in US aid in the 80s to him and his followers?
Then after pol pot takes over, the media all of a sudden begins reporting on the tragedy (which they should have been doing all along), but they see it as something new, whereas the tragedy of cambodia had been going on for some time. After vietnam invades the governent is quick to go after vietnam, and inturn support the kymer rouge.
In fact all of this was going on at exactly the same time the media was completely ignoring another genocidist (suharto's) bloodbath in East Timor which was a very comprable tragedy to that of cambodia. But this tradedy in East Timor was not a side affect of US policy, it was a direct result of US policy. This is why it was ignored and censured.
Final point being, the media follows the line of the state, it is just the 5th branch of government, nothing could show a more clearer example. Also the right wing is to blame directly and indirectly for the entire bloodbath in cambodia and in Timor.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum(liberal and conservative) - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."
When the right wing of the US first launched their major (illegal even by their standards) attack against cambodia it was kept fairly quiet. Im sure val can give u a more accurate statistic but hundres of thousands of people were killed. In the aftermath of the tragedy some 600,000 people would die of the side affects, hunger, napalm, bad water, etcc.. this was completely ignored by all media, and of course since they caused it, the right wing government.
It was because of this that authoritarian genocidist pol pot was able to grab power. He couldnt have done it without the US right wing destroying the country, and also it drummed up actual support for his regime. Just like bin laden, could he be as powerful as he is today without the billions in US aid in the 80s to him and his followers?
Then after pol pot takes over, the media all of a sudden begins reporting on the tragedy (which they should have been doing all along), but they see it as something new, whereas the tragedy of cambodia had been going on for some time. After vietnam invades the governent is quick to go after vietnam, and inturn support the kymer rouge.
In fact all of this was going on at exactly the same time the media was completely ignoring another genocidist (suharto's) bloodbath in East Timor which was a very comprable tragedy to that of cambodia. But this tradedy in East Timor was not a side affect of US policy, it was a direct result of US policy. This is why it was ignored and censured.
Final point being, the media follows the line of the state, it is just the 5th branch of government, nothing could show a more clearer example. Also the right wing is to blame directly and indirectly for the entire bloodbath in cambodia and in Timor.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum(liberal and conservative) - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."