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Can a Celebrity crush be a first love?

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Most people who know me also know I have a galactic sizes crush on Lynda Carter. Most guys my age remember her as Wonder Woman, younger folks will remember her as Chloe Sullivan's mom on Smallvill. Obviously there is plenty of objectification here, but I also respect her as an entertainer and her work with charity's etc...

So my question is, can a celebrity crush be a first love?
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Love is such a strong word, I can't imagine someone truly experiencing it towards a person they don't know at all, let alone on any kind of intimate or emotional level. There are many great works of art, literature, poems, etc made about unrequited love, but usually that love is still towards a person they know on some level aside from just their appearance or fame. If I heard a person say they loved a celebrity, I would just think they were being hyperbolic about their admiration for said celebrity's work or attractiveness. If they were serious, I would wonder how healthy that is. I'm not trying to infer exactly how you feel about the word 'love' / how much weight that word has to you, nor am I trying to analyze your specific situation with Lynda Carter. Rather, I'm speaking more generally. Just my .02.
 
I guess it depends on how you define love. What I mean is, you can "love" a certain song or other work of art, or a certain restaurant/type of food. In my opinion celebrity crushes, at best, are closer to that than to the love you'd feel for a spouse/friend (obviously you can't really love somebody you've never met and never will).
 
If we want to get into the psychological aspects of 'Love' then the answer to your question is no.

A crush, where you've never met the person, interacted with them, or will interact in a meaningful way with a person is basically an infatuation.

An infatuation is basically a desire to possess. One sees something pretty, that pushes the right buttons and you desire it. It feels like love, but is only a related emotion that shares some of the lower qualities of love, and is easily confused by the holder who is within it.

The next step up is Obsession.

Infatuation is normal in the developmental stages, and even as an adult in specific circumstances.

Myriads
 
If we want to get into the psychological aspects of 'Love' then the answer to your question is no.

A crush, where you've never met the person, interacted with them, or will interact in a meaningful way with a person is basically an infatuation.

An infatuation is basically a desire to possess. One sees something pretty, that pushes the right buttons and you desire it. It feels like love, but is only a related emotion that shares some of the lower qualities of love, and is easily confused by the holder who is within it.

The next step up is Obsession.

Infatuation is normal in the developmental stages, and even as an adult in specific circumstances.

Myriads

See I have no desire to posses Ms. Carter. I would be happy to just have a coffee with her, or (best I could hope for) dinner at the CN Tower restaurant (it has a dance floor too). I guess it is a little weird, maybe it's an .anomaly with me. I've adored her since childhood and to this day I still watch Wonder Woman through innocent eyes (except for when she runs in slow motion, Pamela who?). Oh well, I can always dream lol.
 
If we want to get into the psychological aspects of 'Love' then the answer to your question is no.

A crush, where you've never met the person, interacted with them, or will interact in a meaningful way with a person is basically an infatuation.

An infatuation is basically a desire to possess. One sees something pretty, that pushes the right buttons and you desire it. It feels like love, but is only a related emotion that shares some of the lower qualities of love, and is easily confused by the holder who is within it.

The next step up is Obsession.

Infatuation is normal in the developmental stages, and even as an adult in specific circumstances.

Myriads
It depends on what are we exactly talking about. Is there any distinction in the hormonal processes between what you call "infatuation" and "love"? If the two emotional states are the same, why use different words, unless 'love' is just a different kind of 'infatuation', or 'infatuation' different kind of 'love'?
The distinction between the two seems to me blur even in literature. We don't call the "greatest love story" Romeo and Juliette the "greatest infatuation story", even though the two characters supposedly 'in love' did not even really speak to each other that much.

Ultimately I think it's up to the person concerned to decide whether she feels 'in love' and not to others. On that matter I would like to quote one of my favorite movies: Matrix "Being the one is just like being in love. No one can tell you, you are. You just know it."

If you then want to look at the details of 'love', then sure there are a lot of different kinds of love among them what you call 'infatuation' or a 'crush', platonic love, love between a child and his parents etc...

With that being said, to answer the original post: the trouble with celebrities is that you only know their public life. And you see only their professional image, which can be a lot different from the real person they are. In short: if you spent some time with her in private, you might or you might not love her anymore depending on how your discovery of the real her would go.
 
It depends on what are we exactly talking about. Is there any distinction in the hormonal processes between what you call "infatuation" and "love"? If the two emotional states are the same, why use different words, unless 'love' is just a different kind of 'infatuation', or 'infatuation' different kind of 'love'?
The distinction between the two seems to me blur even in literature. We don't call the "greatest love story" Romeo and Juliette the "greatest infatuation story", even though the two characters supposedly 'in love' did not even really speak to each other that much.

Love is a weak word to express an amazingly complex psychological process. The greeks had love cut up into 6 or 7 distinct ideas with words of each. English has never been so thoughtful.

Love is, I agree, something that is very self defined. It also has a number of culturally agreed upon 'symptoms'. Using a mix of the two we can get a pretty good read on if something is Love, or one of it's sub classes; infatuation or obsession.

In the case of a celebrity, what a person sees is a 'figment' which in short is a projection of the real person through a media lens. This figment is often very much different from the real person, and is also very 'blurry' to allow maximal viewer participation in it's definition. A figment is a tool a media person both projects and uses as a defense and attractor.

Our OP has observed Ms. Carter's Figment, and has gained a feeling of connectivity to it. He defined it as a 'crush' and that term, crush, is a very very good definition of what he feels. He saw something that appeals to him on multiple psychological points. So he wishes to possess it (Note possess in this use does not mean 'own' it means gain time with, build intimacy, form connectivity, in short "get to know, or possess more knowledge of") This is natural attraction behavior. And in its more intense forms is called infatuation or puppy love. Both commonly used terms for a feeling toward an individual whom little real info is known. Very correct in the terms of a figment.

Odds are it's not love. The connectivity for love is not there yet. It's a lesser love.

Ultimately I think it's up to the person concerned to decide whether she feels 'in love' and not to others. On that matter I would like to quote one of my favorite movies: Matrix "Being the one is just like being in love. No one can tell you, you are. You just know it."

I have a specific distaste for the smear the Matrix left on the philosophies that relate to the how we see and relate to reality. The film was like a box of fortune cookies randomly cracked and applied.

We have a guy in my city who is damned sure that he is Christ. He walks around dressed like Christ, preaches like Christ and tries to do miracles like Christ (success is still pending alas) If you tell him he is not Christ he gets REAL pissed. Because he KNOWS he is.

and there is the problem with the Matrix provided fortune cookies. Often what we KNOW is dead wrong. Oh we believe it with all our hearts but it's not there, we've fooled ourselves, and created it. The stare at it so long and hard how could we think it not true and real?

Love is a emotion that is super good at being slippery like that. We think we see it, have it, possess it. We wish for it, long for it, and crave it. Many end up projecting it onto others, and seeing it everyplace. Many deceive themselves.

Just because one thinks they KNOW, doesn't mean they know reality.

The OP has formed a highly positive one way connection to a figment of his youth. Then, and perhaps now it represented many things he finds attractive and appealing. Having such a crush is normal and fine. It's part of the learning to relate process we all go through. But is it love? I say no.

It is a good though. And I personally find it nice that he treasures the feeling and memories. Rememering our childhoods and the bits that helped us grow is valuable beyond words.

Myriads
 
I find the term 'puppy love' much more suitable, because it has at least the word "love" in it, which refers to that emotional state of affection. I don't think you can objectively say about anyone what kind of love he feels toward anyone else. You can always find someone telling you, that you are deluding yourself and that you do not really 'love' the given person, because some of his own criteria for 'being in love' are not met. The best you can do objectively is to measure one's brain activity and tell whether she feels that kind of emotions or not, but then to distinguish between the very blur degrees of "true love", "obsession", "infatuation" and whatever else you may come up with is in my opinion a way too complicated task and it is in the end up to the person decide what kind of things she believes she feels. Love is a completely subjective notion, so I would let it be subjective and not try to impose on people my opinions about what I believe they feel.

As for the Matrix, its philosophy in my opinion actually encourages to question reality. That is why people who want to escape the dream world are the heroes, and the machines that create false projections to people are the villains.
 
I find the term 'puppy love' much more suitable, because it has at least the word "love" in it, which refers to that emotional state of affection. I don't think you can objectively say about anyone what kind of love he feels toward anyone else. You can always find someone telling you, that you are deluding yourself and that you do not really 'love' the given person, because some of his own criteria for 'being in love' are not met. The best you can do objectively is to measure one's brain activity and tell whether she feels that kind of emotions or not, but then to distinguish between the very blur degrees of "true love", "obsession", "infatuation" and whatever else you may come up with is in my opinion a way too complicated task and it is in the end up to the person decide what kind of things she believes she feels. Love is a completely subjective notion, so I would let it be subjective and not try to impose on people my opinions about what I believe they feel.

As for the Matrix, its philosophy in my opinion actually encourages to question reality. That is why people who want to escape the dream world are the heroes, and the machines that create false projections to people are the villains.

I don't think it's necessarily up to the person all the time to determine whether it's love, infatuation, or obsession since who would be like "Yeah, i have an obsession"? If it is, I would hope the one being "loved' has some sort of input on it. I'm sure there are tons of people that believe they are "in love" with celebrities and you tend to hear about them on the news. I think most rational people would agree, that love should be positive and not negative. Loving someone that is essentially a figment of one's imagination seems as if it would set one up for heartache. It also seems odd that the person of affection has no say or contribution to the relationship and if that "love" leads to stalking or harassment (unless those terms are also up to the one in love to determine...) I would imagine that could not be defined as love since it would probably cause fear / anger / a number of negative emotions in the celebrity / victim.
 
Those are some good points indeed. I agree that sometimes the subtle gradations are not so subtle and that's when the distinction can quite clearly be made. I'd have to disagree on the idea that love is necessarily a positive thing, but what you are describing is essentially stalking and not love. However it does not seem even remotely close to what the original poster is doing, so he may be much closer to that subjective grey area.

When trying to 'objectively' evaluate human psyche, I think it's similar to when trying to evaluate a work of art. If I suddenly decided to write poetry, it could be 'objectively' said its a "crap" what I wrote. On the other hand, when trying to decide which one between Rimbaud or Baudelaire is a 'better' poet it ultimately comes down to subjective perception.
 
Those are some good points indeed. I agree that sometimes the subtle gradations are not so subtle and that's when the distinction can quite clearly be made. I'd have to disagree on the idea that love is necessarily a positive thing, but what you are describing is essentially stalking and not love. However it does not seem even remotely close to what the original poster is doing, so he may be much closer to that subjective grey area.

When trying to 'objectively' evaluate human psyche, I think it's similar to when trying to evaluate a work of art. If I suddenly decided to write poetry, it could be 'objectively' said its a "crap" what I wrote. On the other hand, when trying to decide which one between Rimbaud or Baudelaire is a 'better' poet it ultimately comes down to subjective perception.

You make good points as well and looking back, I can't be sure if the OP means "love" in the deeper sense of the word or in more of the "great admiration" or "crush" (the other word he used) sense. I would say the latter is harmless. I would say the former is a smidge disconcerting. That said, I definitely agree it is not a term easily defined. Clearly lol. Indeed, it's an interesting conversation, though.
 
My answer to this question would be no.

I've mentioned how I was a fan of the TV show Dallas throughout the original show's run.

At the time, in the 1980s, I had the hots for Victoria Principal. I didn't "Watch" the show because of her, but.. she definitely piqued my interest.

Someone mentioned that "Love" isn't for someone you've never met.

I consider my first "Love". (Infatuation, because it was for a girl who didn't feel similarly about me) was on a cross country trip my parents sent me on at 15 with other teens., I got to know her well, but she had a bf, and didn't feel the same way about me, as I did about her. She is the person I consider that I had the first feelings of :"Love" for, as she was a real life person who I actually knew.
 
I've never been in love with celebrities but I have had a few crushes in my time.

-A short-lived infatuation with Connie Sellica.

- Carrie Fisher was the first love of my life, and at 3 years of age, I decided we would get married as soon as I was old enough.

- Judith Hoag.

-I wanted to marry the woman who played "April" on Knight Rider.
 
As a kid I had fantasies if meeting certain actresses my age. But that is all they were, simple fantasies.
 
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