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cletus-factor

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Finished that piece that I was working on, and I think I made a few errors in body parts sizes.

For instance, unless it's just me her hands are huge, as are her feet. Her calves might be a tad long, and her upper body could use a bit more width. Her arms might be a tad long too.

What else? Any thoughts on what I just said would be much appreciated.

I'd also like to take a moment to comment on difficulty in drawing. For those types who are like me and don't feel that lifelike images come naturally in our art, hair, knees, hands, and barefeet are some of the hardest things to draw well.
 

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Btw, when I feel that I have a pretty good woman drawn, I will be adding clothes to her ; )
 
cletus said:
Finished that piece that I was working on, and I think I made a few errors in body parts sizes.

For instance, unless it's just me her hands are huge, as are her feet. Her calves might be a tad long, and her upper body could use a bit more width. Her arms might be a tad long too.

What else? Any thoughts on what I just said would be much appreciated.

I'd also like to take a moment to comment on difficulty in drawing. For those types who are like me and don't feel that lifelike images come naturally in our art, hair, knees, hands, and barefeet are some of the hardest things to draw well.

It's hard for me to draw hands and feet as well, but as long as I keep trying, I'll one day get better at it.
 
The body proportions seem okay to me, for the most part. One expects a measure of creative latitude in a cartoon character. The head bothers me slightly, though: far too small. To my taste it should be twice the size it is, and separated from the shoulders by a generous neck. Far from shortening the arms, you might wish to extend them a bit to accomodate (I think they'd match the legs better that way, too). Other than that, it all looks pretty good! Nice friendly face!
 
What exactly are you using to do your art? As far as I can tell you're doing this directly in your computer, am I right? Do you draw things by hand too?

If you do draw stuff on paper and pencils then I'd be glad to give you a few pointers about anatomy. I don't really believe this is something to be done in writing though, so, if you're interested then drop me a pm and we'll see what we can do, ok?

It's always nice to see an artist who wants to improve :super_hap 🙂
 
I'm using paint, and no I don't draw by hand. Seems the last time I did that I drew stick figures : P
 
PAINT?! Sorry mate, but I can't help you there. Paint is not precisely a tool I know how to use properly, if there is a proper way to use it... Still, maybe you can do great things with it, and then trust me, you'd be my hero for ever XD

I really think you should start drawing by hand, practice it, drawing on paint is not the best choice I'd say. If you ever do decide to take up on drawing by hand, then drop me a line 🙂
 
I've drawn a few things with paint. I only thing I can tell you is to make use of the ellipse, polygon and the curve line tool. Make sure to learn how to use that. Other than that, yes the feet are kind of big, as are the hands, but it depends on what you're going for. If it's supposed to be a more realistic rendition, then yes, they will have to be smaller and the arms will have to be shorter. Just look up things on anatomy and proportions.

Hope that helps.
 
In my opinion (since you asked):
1.) A woman's body should be wider in the breast area than you've drawn. Think about the classic hourglass shape (36-24-36). Your girl is more 24-24-36.
2.) The legs and arms are proportional to each other, and the torso and head are proportional to each other -- but the legs & arms are too big for the torso & head.
3.) The hands & feet are way too big for anything else in the drawing.
 
Thank you. I have x-mas break at the college for 2 weeks soon, and so I will be working on this a lot then I assume.
 
Seeing that picture...I got the image of a certain german, who lived about 12,000 years ago....who really has a problem with an insurance company.
 
Yes, it was both entertaining and serious...I mean seriously, it does remind me of a certain german who has a conflict with certain insurance companies, who think it is stupid and such.
 
Your proportions are close, but not quite there. The "ideal" figure is 8 heads high, with "real" figures (and many cartoons) being shorter.

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Body proportions
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In art, body proportions are the study of relation of human body, or in general, animal body, parts to each other and the whole, essential for depiction of the overall figure.

Some common proportional relationships for humans:

Body:

* The average adult human figure is about 7 to 7.5 heads tall.
* The idealized human figure is traditionally represented as being 8 heads tall.
* 8 head proportions:

1. head
2. from the bottom of the head to the middle height of a chest (place where women's nipples should be)
3. from previous position to the navel
4. from previous position to the pubis
5. from previous position to the middle height of thigh
6. from previous position to the middle height of a calf
7. from previous position to the point just below the ankles
8. from previous position to the feet

* The pubis is at mid-height of the average adult figure.
* The length of the shin is equal to the length of the hip for an average adult figure.
* When the body stands upright, the length of the arm is such that the finger tips come down to mid-thigh.
* The arms' wingspan (measured from the tips of the middle fingers) is about equal to the body height.
* The length of the foot is about equal to the length of the forearm.

Head:

* The eyes are at the mid-height of the head.
* The head also can be divided into thirds - from the top of the head to the bottom of the forehead, from the bottom of the forehead to the bottom of the nose, and then from there to the bottom of the chin.
* The width of the head is between four and five eyes wide.
* The height of the face is about equal to the length of the hand.
* The eyes are separated by a distance of one eye width.
* The bottom of the nose to the corner of the eye is equal to the height of the ear.
* The width of the base of the nose is equal to the width of the eye.
* The width of the mouth is equal to the distance between pupils, or the width of two eyes.
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Overall your figure is ~7.5 heads tall, so that's OK. Cartoons do often have big heads relative to body size, but this isn't necessary.

(In cases where the figure is shorter than 8 heads, I find it useful to divide the body into seven pseudo-heads for determining where the nipples, navel, knees, etc, should be. Also, it should go without saying that all the measurement-locations are approximate. If you need to adjust things to make a particular drawing look better, then do it.)

Particular points that struck me as problematic about your drawing are

-- eyes too high on the head. They should be half way between the top of the head and the chin. Really (see attached drawing). This is a *very common* error from what I've seen (and according to the conventional wisdom, as well).

-- breasts too high up

-- no neck

-- big hands (The feet are actually OK, IMO. Feet should be roughly one "head" long, & hands about 2/3 the length of the foot.)

-- NO CURVES. A human body really does need to be curvy. Especially a female one 🙂 You seem to have used too many straight lines

-- Looks flat. You need to either use shadows or lines or some other trick to indicate roundness & 3d-ness

You mentioned that you use Paint to create your drawings. What I'd suggest is to get a better program. I use CorelDraw, but that's just me - I much prefer working with vectors & editable curves than with pixels and paint tools. If you don't want to spend money, I know that there are freeware programs you can download that will do better for you than Paint. If nothing else, you can get a program that has more colors available.

If you want a book recommendation, one I'd recommend for advice on drawing the head & figure is (wait for it) Drawing the Head & Figure by Jack Hamm.

Notes on the attachments

1. Part of a drawing I did, used to illustrate the "eyes are halfway between the top & bottom of the head. Really." point.

2. Ideal female figure. A page from an old art book that I snarfed from the web somewhere.
 

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OK, I couldn't resist taking Cletus' drawing and doing it over in CorelDraw. I may go back and add tickle-implements, but in the meantime I hope this illustrates what I meant by my bolovations about proportions, adding curves, and using a program other than Paint.
 

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Wow thank you Sablesword. Great information you have there, shoulda titled my post...information on drawing lol.
 
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