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does this sound like going a bit far?

isabeau

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i heard on the news this morning that women who are expecting babies next week, to be more exact... around the date 6/6/06 are asking their doctors to induce labor early so that the babies aren't born on that date.. i guess they are afraid they might give birth to little damien... doesn't that seem a bit too much to you?
 
Considering that the world didn't come to an end on June 6, 1906, nor on June 6, 1806, nor on June 6, 1706, .... I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
 
People put too much importance on stuff like that. However... If it helps them to be more relaxed and have a safer delivery, I don't think there's any harm in it.

As for the world coming to an end, I know some of us will feel that way post NEST. 😉

Ann
 
Why don't they just haul themeselves to another time zone and give birth on another date? nut jobs!
 
UG! What is the big deal? It's 6-6-06. Or 6,606. There's no need to worry until it's 2066 or 2666. Anyway, I read somewhere they misread the number and it's not actually triple-six but rather a number that's an area code in New Jersey.

Honestly. The last time something bad happened in a triple-six year was the great fire of London in 1666.
 
I think it's crazy, but essentially harmless. Like avoiding cracks on the sidewalk.
 
Kids are also cruel, growin up the kid will prob be called damien and crap, just like people born on 4\20 are mocked for what its known for

If i had a kid born on 6\6\06, id name him damien for that purpose....after saint damien ofcorpse 🙂
 
Yeah, i'd have to say that sounds a bit too much, although they must be very religious persons for wanting to do that in the first place.
 
Illtcklu said:
I'm EVIL and I wasn't born on 6/6/06.........


Heh, as long as u have no 6's on your body, i dont mind
to quote a good song

"You did alright, lived a little dark and that's alright
'Cause we made the darkside and the rightside is to have no fear, no fear"
 
Just as long as they don't give birth under a ladder, during a full moon, while a black cat paces back and forth knocking over salt shakers... they'll probably be fine.
 
Mz Chaos said:
Just as long as they don't give birth under a ladder, during a full moon, while a black cat paces back and forth knocking over salt shakers... they'll probably be fine.

lololol i do all of those, heck i own a black cat..i mean i don't give birth under a ladder but i walk under them all the time..
 
isabeau said:
lololol i do all of those, heck i own a black cat..i mean i don't give birth under a ladder but i walk under them all the time..
I'm a hopeless superstition freak. I get the willies when I have noticed that mine is the 13th post in a thread. My superstition thing was made worse when I got a book titled "Dictionary of Superstitions." It was like a hypochondriac getting a medical diagnosis book. I was a wreck for weeks. But I'm okay now... (knock on wood)
 
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*big heavy sigh*

There is no logical reason why anybody with a brain should be caught up in such nonsense, and it's a terrible reason to tamper with the natural course of pregnancy and childbirth.

Evangelical Christians on the board, please feel free to show me where I'm wrong in what I'm about to say. I'm actually not an evangelical Christian, but I was one recently enough and for long enough that I know the whole theology inside and out and can address most theological questions with confidence--even if I am damned to hell myself.

Okay, here goes. Here's the deal.

First off, it's only Christians for whom the number 666 means a thing, because it's in the Book of Revelation as the number that the Antichrist will bear. It's not made altogether clear just how the Antichrist will bear a number, but that's what it says, and it's in the Christian Bible, so there's no logical reason for non-Christians to be hung up on it. Now, as for Christians, they have even less to worry about. Why? Simple. The most basic article of faith in Christianity is that all anyone has to do, in order to be kept safe from all manner of spiritual harm, is hold fast to the faith. Christ made clear to his disciples that nobody could predict the time the world would come to an end, so therefore they should be ready for it at all times. Can any Christian seriously believe that that a faithful Christian would be in trouble with God just for having given birth on June 6, or for having been born on June 6?

Point is, non-Christians have no reason to think about the number 666 at all, and Christians have no reason to fear some silly numerological superstition when all they have to do is keep the faith. Therefore, it's utterly inane that anybody would be worrying about giving birth on June 6. And for God's sake, pregnant women have enough to think about without this nonsense.

Am I right or am I wrong? As Martin Luther* said, "show me where I'm wrong."


*I quote Martin Luther while also acknowledging that he very much deserved to be shown where he was wrong in his anti-Semitism. It's a great quotation nonetheless.
 
drew70 said:
I think it's crazy, but essentially harmless. Like avoiding cracks on the sidewalk.

Sorry, this is NOT harmless! 🙂
Medicine is not at the service of every single foolish will, preference and likes.
A medical intervention is always something traumatic for the body and the cost-benefit ratio should always be considered (not economical, but in terms of health).
If there is no medical condition there is no medical intervention. Period.
I think that the real thing that is getting too far is the culture of "I want it done, I want it now, because it is my right!", which really poorly applies to the real "M"edicine. :sowrong:
 
Italian_Touch said:
Sorry, this is NOT harmless! 🙂
Medicine is not at the service of every single foolish will, preference and likes.
A medical intervention is always something traumatic for the body and the cost-benefit ratio should always be considered (not economical, but in terms of health).
I agree with your philosophy for the most part. But having a natural birth as opposed to C-section isn't going to avoid a lot of bodily trauma. That ship already sailed.
If there is no medical condition there is no medical intervention. Period.
I think that the real thing that is getting too far is the culture of "I want it done, I want it now, because it is my right!", which really poorly applies to the real "M"edicine. :sowrong:
What about the billion dollar cosmetic surgery industry? Lipposuction, implants, augmentations, reductions, etc. My feeling is that if the patient can afford it, and it can be done with mininally increased risk, than let them have their baby a day early.
 
WorkInProgress said:
Am I right or am I wrong?

Well, like I said, they found out triple-six isn't even the number we should be afraid of. Someone mistranslated.

And yeah, Christians are the only ones who should fear it.

Apparently, when the anti-Christ rises in power he will get everyone who doesn't realize who he is marked with this number either on their right hand or their forehead. Anyone bearing this mark (willingly) will not go when the true Christ reappears, but be destroyed. The Mark Of The Beast doesn't even have to be the number. It could be a microchip implanted in you, or a barcode.

There's a guy in England who wants to turn all humans into something akin to the Borg from Star Trek so we can access the internet, our bank accounts, share our thoughts, etc. Which freaks me out because of what I've been taught as far as the Mark goes.
 
You know what, though? When you consider how much of the Gospel of Christ is about human behavior and about sincerity of devotion versus hypocrisy, and when you remember the two great commandments (Love God, love thy neighbor), it seems hard to interpret the Battle of Armageddon as a literal military conflict at all. Since the teachings of Christ are all about being faithful and loving, and since the negative injunctions from Christ are about hypocrisy and self-indulgence, it would seem to me that Armageddon would logically be the ongoing spiritual struggle between true devotion and false devotion, and that the Antichrist would logically be anyone who wanted to deceive people into not really loving God with their whole hearts and not really loving their neighbors as themselves. As for microchips and barcodes, the best I can say for them, in relation to anything theological, is that they make good material for sensationalistic novels and horror flicks. I wouldn't imagine either God or the Devil needing any kind of human-made technology to keep track of his respective membership roster.
 
Wow! The remake of the movie "The Omen" opens on that date! I would think one would want to do everything in one's power to make 666 the delivery date! After all, it's not every kid who gets to have Beelzebub as their fairy godfather!
:devil2:
 
drew70 said:
I agree with your philosophy for the most part. But having a natural birth as opposed to C-section isn't going to avoid a lot of bodily trauma. That ship already sailed.

I know. If you look at the international statistics (I am no more updated but I am dure they are out in the medical literature), you'd be amazed to see how big is the difference in the number of C-sections performed in the States compared with Europe (UK excluded).
The common perception is that the C-section is an easy surgical procedure. Of course, OBGs have a lot of expertise but it is still classified as MAJOR surgery. It's not a joke. There are indeed possible complications that in many cases outweight the benefits. Giving birth is not a disease and in the vast majority of the cases it is not something that a doctor has to put hands on. This is one of the most controversial medical approaches between US and Europe (expecially southern Europe). Whereas here MDs are taught to encourage C-sections, in Europe they are taught to discourage limiting it on specific conditions (bad neonatal presentation, health conditions of the mother, etc.). Cultural and economical reasons also play a role: mainly: people are taught to be scared of delivery and the insurance-system and happy-suing-habits encourage a medical intervention where it might not be needed in many case.
Again, C-section is not a benefit for a healthy woman with a normal pregnancy. And, as a final note, vaginas do not blow up after a delivery!

drew70 said:
What about the billion dollar cosmetic surgery industry? Lipposuction, implants, augmentations, reductions, etc. My feeling is that if the patient can afford it, and it can be done with mininally increased risk, than let them have their baby a day early.
Again, liposuction is MAJOR surgery with a high impact on the body physiology. These cases are more complicated, as the definition of health also includes the psycological well-being.
Still, there are cases in which medicine is abused, and some doctors act unethically (I am not saying unlawfully, though). But I do realize I am a minority and,honestly I can live with that 🙂
 
WorkInProgress said:
I wouldn't imagine either God or the Devil needing any kind of human-made technology to keep track of his respective membership roster.

I think it's kind of a Golden Calf thing though. If you get the implant you're worshiping a false God rather then the real one. Besides, even though he'll have demon powers, the Anti-Christ will be born a man of a woman the same way Jesus was born of a woman. So the devil at least might need some cattle tags.

Mark Of The Beast or not, the thought of being a cyborg freaks me out. It's okay for fiction, but I don't want laser eyes or microchips in my hands.
 
hell i would want to be induced on that day just so it goes against other people, but thats just me
 
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