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Mimi

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In sitting here tonight, perusing through the forum - new threads, reply posts, etc - I have discovered a disturbing trend. Why is it that nearly every thread that has been started lately, regardless of how good the original intention was, has been met with at least one snarky, rude, uncalled for reply? What has happened within the tk community over the past few months to bring about such a miserable trend? I, for one, don't know the answer. Blame it on current events in the world, perhaps, but I always thought most of us came here to ESCAPE reality. To renew ourselves with a breath of fresh air free from stress, politics, family issues, financial struggles, etc. I could be mistaken, but I honestly believe that is still the case with many of us.

In light of the recent bad attitudes, mug slinging, and smashing of intellectual stubborn minds, I thought we could all use a refresher on those basic rules of livelihood and humanity that we learned so long ago.....in Kindergarten. Please read through the credo below, and reflect upon these simple yet staple rules. Maybe you'll learn a few things you have since long forgotten.

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All I really need to know about how to live and what to do and how to be I learned in kindergarten. Wisdom was not at the top of the graduate-school mountain, but there in the sandpile at Sunday School. These are the things I learned:

Share everything.
Play fair.
Don't hit people.
Put things back where you found them.
Clean up your own mess.
Don't take things that aren't yours.
Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody.
Wash your hands before you eat.
Flush.
Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.
Live a balanced life - learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work every day some.
Take a nap every afternoon.
When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together.
Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the styrofoam cup: The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that.
Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even the little seed in the styrofoam cup - they all die. So do we.
And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first word you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK.

Everything you need to know is in there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation. Ecology and politics and equality and sane living.

Take any one of those items and extrapolate it into sophisticated adult terms and apply it to your family life or your work or your government or your world and it holds true and clear and firm. Think what a better world it would be if we all - the whole world - had cookies and milk about three o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with our blankies for a nap. Or if all governments had as a basic policy to always put things back where they found them and to clean up after their own mess.

And it is still true, no matter how old you are....when you go out into the world, it is best to hold hands and stick together.

Written by Robert Fulghum

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I think we should instate a new rule to expand on our Golden Rule here at the forum. One to add to those list of things you learned in kindergarten: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Think about how much happier and pleasant of a place this forum would be if everyone just subscribed to those basic rules found here in this thread.

Mimi
 
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Are you mainly thinking aboot the "war" threads, Mims?

Like I've always stated, I have no problem with snarky remarks. Better to get them online than in your face, yanowatamsayin?

Also, it gives a chance for rebuttal that is calmer than if peeps were meeting face to face.

So, let the remarks come. We're all adults here (chronologically anways), but I do feel sorry that you are feeling gyped (sp?) as of late.

Good thread.

Cheers.😀
 
I agree, Mimi. I think the war and strong feelings taht go with it do have a lot to do with the general mood. But, I also think there is another problem we're seeing. That is that some folks feel they have to prove themselves to be right no matter what it takes. They don't seem willing to accept that there are other views that others can rightly hold. So, rather than a friendly debate, they argue and start flaming. I have one suggestion for those to whom this applies...

Give up the right to be right. If you REALLY believe what you say you do, it shouldn't matter that others don't share those ideas/feelings.

Just a thought.

Ann
 
*shakes head* Why do I bother?

Thank you, Venray and Ann, for seeing the purpose of the thread and understanding. And thank you to both, for adding your own "good rules/thoughts to live by" to this thread. Both excellent additions, indeed. 🙂

Mimi
 
Mimi said:
*shakes head* Why do I bother?
Thank you, Venray and Ann, for seeing the purpose of the thread and understanding. And thank you to both, for adding your own "good rules/thoughts to live by" to this thread. Both excellent additions, indeed. 🙂
Mimi

Sorry, did I miss something? I thought I was addressing some of your concerns.

Cheers.😀
 
*sigh*

An intelligent, well-reasoned debate is both fun and rewarding- much like a fencing match between experts.

A crass, vulgar insult-fest is both repulsive to watch and demeaning to its participants- much like a crap-flinging war in the monkey pen at a zoo.

It is QUITE possible to disagree with someone, even on sensitive issues, without becoming mortal enemies... 🙄
 
asutickler said:
*sigh*
An intelligent, well-reasoned debate is both fun and rewarding- much like a fencing match between experts.
Could you point me in the direction of the experts, please?
No? There aren't any on this board? Well, how aboot that...
Guess we'll just have to be ourselves after all.
It is QUITE possible to disagree with someone, even on sensitive issues, without becoming mortal enemies... 🙄
I can't believe that this is coming from you, ASU. I've read your posts, sir, and you are definately one who does not practise what he preaches...

And could y'all stop *sighing* and *shaking yer head* please?
No one has absolute claim to wisdom and/or protocol, even if you happen to have "Moderator" under your name.

Just let us be. And if you don't like it...don't post.

Cheers.😀
 
Moses25 said:

Could you point me in the direction of the experts, please?
No? There aren't any on this board? Well, how aboot that...
Guess we'll just have to be ourselves after all.

I didn't mean to imply that anyone should be any sort of "expert" before posting. Fencing was the best analogy I could come up with, and fencing matches between novices are generally NOT enjoyable, in that they tend to jab one another repeatedly in sensitive areas with a long, pointy stick.



Moses25 said:

I can't believe that this is coming from you, ASU. I've read your posts, sir, and you are definately one who does not practise what he preaches...


I'm not trying to tell folks not to ARGUE, Moses. I argue in here all the time, and I actually enjoy it. I'm trying to tell folks not to argue in a way that relies on insults and character assassination as a primary means of establishing one's "point," if such a term is relevant to such communication. Do I ALWAYS manage to meet my own standard? Probably not. But I'd wager that if you went and looked, my posting history is rather devoid of instances in which I've just up and attacked someone PERSONALLY, rather than logically or factually...


Cheers? 😛
 
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