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Follow Up: Cool Stuff You Probably Didn't Know About "ROTJ"

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As a follow-up to my Return of the Jedi post, I thought I'd bring fans a few things they might not know about the most misunderstood film in the saga.

- Following Yoda's death, the script had a longer conversation between Luke and Ben's shade, in which he explains that he entrusted his brother Owen with raising Luke as an adopted "nephew". The dialog remained in the novelization and became part of Star Wars lore for a long time, until Episode II established Owen as Anakin's stepbrother.

- The Imperial capital, the city-planet of Had Abbadon, appeared in the rough draft. Around the planet orbited two half-finished Death Stars and the Green Moon, named Jus-Endor, an unspoiled ecosystem in the early stages of habitational clearing. Below the surface was Palpatine's throne room, in the center of a lake of lava. The concept was that his throne would be below everything that had been built over the centuries, situated far enough down to have lava.

- Femi Taylor, the actress who portrayed Oola (Jabba's Twi-Lek dancing girl) was still fit enough to reprise her role 15 years later for the Special Edition, to reshoot a scene where we actually see her in the Rancor pit.

- In the script's second draft, an Admiral "Ackbar" appears and is described as a "Blue-skinned near-human". Grand Admiral Prawn?

- Known only to readers of the novelization, the bad-rap Ewoks are actually "vicious little carnivores".

- At one point, as ROTJ was the only film with no major-character deaths, screenwriter Lawrence Kasden suggested that Luke die and Leia take his place as central character. This was seriously considered.

- Boba Fett survived the Sarlaac pit in later novels in the Expanded Universe...due to massive fan input and outcry.

- The pilot and gunner of the AT-ST that Chewie captures are played by director Richard Marquand and co-producer Robert Watts

- The original title was "Revenge of the Jedi". You knew that. What you may not have known is the real reason. Contrary to the many theories that have become popular over the years, it was not a re-think of a Jedi's intentions that led to the title change. "Revenge" was a bogus title from the start. Lucas: "The title was always intended to be Return of the Jedi, but we made it under the code name Revenge of the Jedi to smoke out bootleggers and such. Unfortunatly, Fox started promoting the film before we could tell them not to use the title." Also, contrary to popular belief, the title does not refer to Luke bringing back the Jedi order, but to Vader returning as Anakin...returning to his Jedi heritage, fulfilling the prophecy.

- The Ewoks almost never happened. The end scenes were to originally contain Wookies. Even the name Ewok is practically pig-Latin for Wookie.

- Stuntwoman Tracy eddon wore the C-3PO suit for the tumble off the sail barge. She also donned the gold bikini to swing with Mark Hamill's double onto the escaping skiff.

- The radiating shafts making up the floor of the Death Star II's reactor core are actually 1,500 fishing rods.

- Some of the coolest ships taken for granted now are only seen in ROTJ...the B-Wing, A-Wing, Lambda-class shuttle and TIE Interceptor. Side note...the two rebel fighters don't really look like the letters they represent, they were labelled "A-Fighter" and "B-Fighter" during development.

- The full-sized model of the Millenium Falcon was built for The Empire Strikes Back and was to be reused for ROTJ. Alas, it's only scene was the deleted sandstorm sequence. The one seen in the rebel hangar is a matte painting.

- In the original draft, Luke is held prisoner on an island in a sea of lava. Obi-Wan appears in the flesh, explaining that he has returned to help defeat Palpatine. Yoda also appears, but only as a spirit, stating that he will do what he can from the Netherworld. The Emperor shoots Force Lightning at Obi-Wan and Luke raises an invisible shield to block it. Whenever the shild goes up, Yoda's image flashes across it. Lucas dropped this scenario, deciding it would be more powerful for Luke to face Vader on his own. It would have also gone counterpoint to Obi-Wan's warning to Luke in ESB that if he Luke chose to face Vader, he could not interfere.

- The climax of the novelization contains a great concept: Moff Jerjerrod, realizing that the fight is lost, orders his Death Star to fire on Endor in a last act of defiance. Naturally, the station blows up at the last second in an echo of A New Hope.

- In the script's second draft, Jabba boasts about killing many Jedi. The novelization still contained Jabba's best line (that I wish they'd kept in): "I was killing your kind when being a Jedi meant something."

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Cool stuff! I didn't know anything about the planet of the Empire's capital city, as the EU novels placed it on Coruscant. I was a bit puzzled by Obi-Wan describing Owen as his brother, as I read the ROTJ novel after seeing AOTC. I was also a bit preturbed by Owen being so antagonistic towards his "brother".
 
Whoa. And I though I knew a lot of stuff. Wonder where Lucas found 1500 fishing rods?

Thanks for sharing, Dave!!!!
 
I think he borrowed them from Kurch's garage.
 
Dave, wasn't the A-wing featured before ROTJ in ESB in the battle scene at the beginning of the move at the Rebel base on Hoth?

-Jamandi-
 
been reading The Annotated Screenplays lately, have we Dave?

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Look closely, Jamandi...those are snowspeeders. The A-Wing didn't make it's appearence until ROTJ.

And yes, I've read the Annotated Screenplays. There's a lot of interesting stuff there.

A couple more parting shots...these are bloopers you can see in the film itself:

- Alien singer Sy Snootles changed bodies for the Special Edition, going from a rod puppet with small tusks underneath her trunk to a fully CG character without tusks. The error occurs in the Special Edition, when the old tusked Sy remains in the long shots.

- Luke's mouth doesn't move when he says "come on" before his swing off the sail barge.

- Luke and Leia's swing onto the escaping skiff is technically impossible, given that there's no fulcrum overhead on the sail barge to duplicate the physics of the arc. Oh well, Spiderman does it all the time...

- During Threepio's levitation in the Ewok village, Artoo can be seen free of his ropes, prior to the moment where the Ewoks cut him loose.

- Lok for several "Film flipping" errors, including Boba Fett's helmet rangefinder switching sides and Lando's bandolier jumping from shoulder to shoulder on the Rebel Star Cruiser.
 
Theres another sort of Blooper that they picked up on Hey Hey Its Saturday.

In ROTJ, when they are being helped by the Ewoks to infiltrate the Empire base station that controlls the force field around the death star...

Liea is trying to defend the big door so R2D2 can open it... but she gets shot in the arm... as Han Solo goes to see if she's alright... look closely and you can see that he gropes Liea by accident on the way there.
 
😀 [COLOR=007500]How did Yoda die?[/COLOR] 😕
 
He died of old age or something. This happened on Luke's final visit to Yoda (surprise surprise)

He seemed pretty calm about it really... talking to Luke as he did.it... then got into bed and died.
 
look closely and you can see that he gropes Liea by accident on the way there.

funny, I've watched RotJ dozens of times and I've never seen this so-called groping, even though everybody swears it happens.

Provide the exact scene so I can search for it.
 
Some more comments from Dave's very own Padawan learner......

Dave2112 said:
Look closely, Jamandi...those are snowspeeders. The A-Wing didn't make it's appearence until ROTJ.

That is right. If you check out the A-Wings in the Battle of Endor in ROTJ, you can see they're longer and narrower than the Snowspeeders. They also have a red stripe up their middle, wheras the Snowspeeders are all white. The A-Wing is also a single person craft whereas the SS is a two-man craft.

The A-Wing is capable of space flight, unlike the SS which is only capable of atmospheric travel. It's the equivalent of the Imperial TIE Interceptor, faster and sleeker than the X-Wing, but lighter on shield, armour and armament. Weaker cannons, and dual-firing concussion missiles take the place of proton torpedos.


Originally posted by Dave2112 - Luke and Leia's swing onto the escaping skiff is technically impossible, given that there's no fulcrum overhead on the sail barge to duplicate the physics of the arc. Oh well, Spiderman does it all the time...

Didntcha know that Luke used the Force to power their swing Dave? :dogpile:
 
HisDivineShadow said:
Yes, Pianist, Yoda died of old age.

That or extreme constipation, judging from his facial expression.
 
dIDNT kURCH TELL YOU ALL?

(I REALLY hate my caps lock key) He gave away all his fishing poles to make room for his marmalde companys production line
 
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