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I just wanted to know who else watches this series? That episode last night, "Red Wedding" shocked the living crap out of me. I didn't read the books, so what happened was just shocking. I am loving this show. Crazy crazy crazy show. Any other fans?
 
***SPOILER ALERT***

I REALLY wanted to know the reaction of a person who hadn't read the books! When I read that part I had to stop and take a break, it ACTUALLY depressed me, and I couldn't believe it was possible, but the show made it WORSE! The wife wasn't there in the book. I was all mentally prepared to see it happen in the show, then she got stabbed in the stomach and I SCREAMED "OH MY GOD!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!"

Unbelievable.

Fuckin Freys!
 
As a longtime fan of the books, I was dreading that scene. Not just because of what was going to happen, but I was also worried that the show would ruin it.

Luckily, I wasn't dissapointed. It managed to capture the same level of horror and chaos from the book. Brilliantly done.
 
In the books I was really shocked by the red wedding, and I thought it was a shock-killing just to get a reaction.

But watching this all play out on TV is making me see it as a necessary trimming and focusing. There are too many characters running around, even more in the books than on the show, and it's hard to focus on what the story really is.
 
I thought it was handled very well--very well for a massacre, that is. :shock:

I was going to say, I didn't remember the presence of Robb's wife at the wedding in the books, but it's been a few years. I also don't remember her being pregnant, or standing out a whole lot to me at all, really. I thought what they did in the show was awesome, by building up the two of them, attempting to get people attached to her character, and then BAM, gone!
 
People were not kidding when they said anyone could die at anytime. The part that made a lot of us fans who never read the books mad was Robb gets killed and Joffrey is still alive? That little weenie needs to get killed!

If he does die in the books, please don't tell me.... I rather have that glorious surprise...
 
The series is amazing, up until the most recent episode I thought episode 4 of this season was the best of the series! Dany freeing the Unsullied, killing the masters, taking back her dragon and just marched out of Astapor with the Unsullied and Dragons following, badass!! This episode though, my god was it incredible!! I don't read the books, but I heard about the Red Wedding and it was spot on. Really felt for Catelyn Stark when Robb died and then her throat being slit and the screen going to black, wow!! It will be hard for the finale to top it, but from the preview it seems we get something from everybody. Awesome!!
 
I'm still wondering what's going to happen with tonight's episode. I read the books, but the Red Wedding sticks so much in my mind I honestly cannot remember what happened after, especially something cool enough to make a season finale out of.
 
I never read the books, but I've been in love with the show since it debuted. AND GODDAMN THE RED WEDDING!!! Rob Stark was easily one of my favorite characters and it was a bit soulcrushing to see that whole massacre go down. At least there's John Snow I suppose...
 
I'm really worried that the tv series is going to catch up with the books. He spent YEARS writing this past novel, and gave no indication of his progress with his next book. The tv series is doing a season every year, and gaining a lot of ground. On Conan, the other night, George RR Martin verbalized that he's got that same fear.

I haven't researched it, but I've heard that if the show DOES catch up with the books before Martin finishes writing, HBO gains creative license over what to do with the show. I'd hate to see what would happen were this to be true.
 
I wouldn't be to worried. They split up Book 3 into two seasons. Part two will be season 4 next year. Martin's sixth book comes out later this year, with one left after that.
 
I wouldn't be to worried. They split up Book 3 into two seasons. Part two will be season 4 next year. Martin's sixth book comes out later this year, with one left after that.

SCHEDULED to come out later this year. As he said with the previous one, projected release date doesn't necessarily match up with reality. Only he knows when he's going to finish his book. I hope he can get it done within a reasonable time frame without sacrificing a good story, though a Dance with Dragons seemed somewhat uneventful, as long as he spent cooking it.
 
I'm a big fan of Raymond E. Feist books, so I'm reluctant to commit myself to another huge fantasy series of books when I haven't finished all of his. This series however is good enough to make me reconsider.
 
The tv series is great, but if you haven't started the books, I'd hold off. I'm not convinced they're going to be finished, given the size and age of George Martin, and his output as an author. Personally, I'm sick of authors who want to string you along forever.

Someone needs to stand over Martin's shoulder, clapping briskly and saying "Let's move it along, George!"

If you're in the market for a new series, pick up The First Law books. It's a tight, completed trilogy, with all the same cynicism and grit you'd get from GoT.
 
About two years ago, just after the first season, I was at a party and someone spoiled the whole Red Wedding for me. That day I discovered what it was like to have a nemesis. That episode was amazing though. The whole show is just mind blowingly amazing.
 
That day I discovered what it was like to have a nemesis.
Did you look them square in the eye with a scowl on your face and tell them "Winter is coming"?
 
I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a huge fanboy of both the books and the show. I can only hope GRRM finishes the books. Although he has said, if he dies before the last book, he wants the final one to be 1000 pages describing a field of graves, with a blizzard raging around them.

Also, Stannis Baratheon is the King that Westeros deserves.
 
I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a huge fanboy of both the books and the show. I can only hope GRRM finishes the books. Although he has said, if he dies before the last book, he wants the final one to be 1000 pages describing a field of graves, with a blizzard raging around them.

Also, Stannis Baratheon is the King that Westeros deserves.

Naw, either Tyrion Lannister or Khalessi is the ruler Westeros needs...
 
Here's the kick ass song that ended the season, Mhysa.

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Huge fan of the books and the show, and although I share some of the fears of Martin never finishing the series, I also think it's a totally unique experience to be caught up on both the show and the books as they race each other to finish.

Last season, several episodes deviated from the books' plot in ways that could hint at what storylines are the most important in the still to be written novels. Rumor has it that the writers of the show have been informed of the twists and turns all the way to the end of the series, and I believe they're crafting a companion piece that condenses Martin's story into something non-readers can get into.

***********SPOILER ALERT TV/BOOKS *************




I'll point specifically to the scene where the council of Others turns Craster's son into an Other. This scene has not appeared in any of the books, and confirms something readers had only speculated before: The Others are not a mindless race of evil that raises the dead and comes to bring the endless night. They obviously have a leader (The Night King of old Nan's stories perhaps?) and if there's a leader then there is a hierarchy and a society of some kind in place. None of this was any more than words (and words are wind, of course) until the show. I think the show will continue to be fed bits of important pieces of the story that will fire up the readers for the release of Winds of Winter.

I highly recommend the books as long as you have a strong stomach for fictional violence and abuse of women, animals, poor people, religious people, military captives.... well really just about everyone. There's also a million characters, and all kinds of foreshadowing and backstory buried in between the lines. The depth of the theories of what is truly happening in the song of ice and fire never cease to amaze me.

Can't wait for season 5! Or Winds of Winter.... which I can't imagine will be out before the end of season 5 😛
 
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