Global Warming My A$$

[Strelnikov]

Despite the Chicken Little ranting about global warming, it has been persistently cold this winter across the Northern U.S. and in Canada and Alaska. Earlier this week it was -12 F (-24 C)in Whitefield, New Hampshire and Millinocket, Maine. In Northern Canada, it was a bitter -44 F (-42 C) at Alert. Lake Superior, the largest of the Great Lakes, is now the closest to completely freezing over since it last happened in 1994. The huge lake is now 90% covered by ice ranging from thin to several feet thick. Three of the other Great Lakes have already frozen over, which may delay the start of the shipping season this year.

BTW the Great Lakes cover 94,000 square miles (243,000 sq km) and drain twice that much land. There is so much water in the Great Lakes that if it was spread evenly, water would be about 10 feet (3 meters) deep everywhere across the lower 48 states, or about 100 feet (30 meters) deep everywhere across France and Germany, which right now would suit me fine!

Strelnikov

 

[kurchatovium]

I have had my doubts about global warming its nothing political just I feel the scientific evidence is somewhat sparse. There is a place in Ireland (ironic since tomorrow is St. Patrick's Day) where they have been keeping track of the temperature there for about three hundred years. They do indeed see a gradual warming of the planet at there place for those three hundred years but here is the odd thing they also monitored sunspot activity. A plot of sunspot acitivity vs. the temperture matched up almost exactly and agreed much more than it did with estimated CO2 levels. Certainly this is not conclusive that CO2 has no efeect but it does raise several questions. The earth has many long term cycles like the magnetic poles reverse every 50,000 years or so if I remember correctly. The earth also takes 26,000 years to precess about its orbit. These very long term cycles certainly effect weather and climate and since we have only been measuring temperature for a couple of hundred years and accurately for only about a hundred I would say we need to be cautious about interperting results. Certainly technologies that reduce pollution like fuel cells should be looked into but I feel there is more than enough time to approach any problems that exist rationally.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

read 2 different takes on global warming lately

one was that we are in the normal post ice age cycle, and that it is normal to have a gradual warm up.
the other said that we should be thanking the green house gas build up, that it's keeping us from entering a new ice age that would devistate the world as we know it.
food for thought, huh?
then again, we had record colds this year, so global warming my ass!
steve