Graphics thread

[nessonite1]

Since it seems I'm the head of the graphics department of sorts (does this company have a name? lol) Im trying to put together a list of what we are going to need. Here's what I have thus far...

For each girl we need a few body poses for talking to the player in various locations. It seems from the demo that we just need a siple picture to set the scene with and then the actual talking to her will be a simple head shot. Am I corrct in this?

Before the player is allowed into tk mode he's got to get her into his house (or hers). So the above would include some scene picture of her sitting in his bedroom (or hers). I mentioned before maybe having two different tk scenes available. If allowed into her bedroom (which would be easier to do) it would be tied down to her bed and if she goes to the plater's house it would be in stocks. Dont know if I heard back from you on that! Is it good?

So for the interactive mode we need the 6 basic facial expressions. Normal, Happy, Laughing, Sad, Angry, and bored/Annoyed. Question..is there going to be a need for a "sad" face?

Finally in the tk interrogation mode we need the body drawn in several different states of writhing. And then several different levels of facial expression that you can match with the bodies in whatever way is apropriate. Also thought of animating the feet seperately so they can clench when it's apropriate. 🙂

As for the zoom function...Im still not exactly sure how you want that to look so I dont know what we need there. 🙂

I know Kalamos has said he'd help (thanks, K!) and now Anime316 (awesome!). Theres no need for me anymore with so much talent! *sob!* Maybe I can do something still!

 

[footamateur]

A big thanks to our wonderful "chief of the graphic section" ^_^ 😀 i think that the company name is "Digital Laughing".....i hope that anyone have the TM or (C) on it LOL

About point 1: i think that we should have a backgroud that describe the location (home, beach, school, gym...etc) and the character on it with the "chroma key effect" (is thios the right name of the effect? ); we can use the same body and the same backgrounds changing only the faces that shows the reactions of the girl to the player's actions 😉 when we talk with the girl we can have a single face shot or a half body shot; think also that the input mode is created to talk with the girl, so if you want to talk you'll use mainly the input mode (where you'll see only the face of the girl).

about point 2: Is amazing if we can have some "before the action" scenes.....like the player that remove her shoes...or when he/she grab her feet....or something like this ^_^ in this way the game will not pass simply to the tickling part 😀 the player will experience the tension before the action 😉
About the 2 poses; i was thinking about them because in this way you can have more places to tickle 😀 so if you tie the girl on the bed spread eagle we can include a 2nd pose, where the girl is tied face down...so you can reach other places 😉

About point 3: the "sad face" can be removed in the interactive mode 😉 you're right 😀

About point 4: right 😀 but don't forget that the "interrogation mode" is the same code and graphic of the "interactive mode", the only differences are that in the interrogation mode the gameplay is different and you'll have 2 buttons more than the interactive mode. the animation are needed to show the reactions to the tickling; the facial expressions are needed to put more intensity, and if the body can have different states is a dream 😀 i hope that this is not something that require a huge amount of work......because each girl should be a little bit different from the other; we should decide if we want few girls with great and many varied reactions and details, or many girls but very similar (except for the tickling spots and for the stories and the personality....this is something that i must implement in the code, so i can make them different in a short time ^_^ ).

About point 5: the zoom mode is about to be included in the 0.3 version......with the "input mode" (we are talking of the basic functions of course...i need time to develope them in the best way that i can 😀 ), when you'll see it you'll have a clear vision of what i have in mind 😉 but in few words we need of the animation of the tickled part (we can use the same animation of the full body) adn of the facial animations of the girl (that will be shown in a small square on the top of the window); think that with the zoom mode you can focus better your techniques and you can find the spots that are not reachable in the full figure (hehehe^_^ so you must search very carefully ^_^) 😀😀😀 of course i'm here to hear also the suggestions 😉 the game is for the comunity 😉

About part 6: If i can express my opinion (hey! i'm the owner of the company...the boss! LOLOLOLOL 😀😀😀 ) i hope that you'll continue to draw like now 😀 even if other artists will came here 😉
My idea was to ask to each artist to make a girl with his own style (when i say "a girl" i mean all the animations, images, facial expressions...etc); i only hope that the "graphic division" of the Digital laughing LTD will have a meeting to discuss about a little common style to make the characters 😉 because all the characters should have something in common in the graphic, then each artist can customize the girl wit his own style 😉 in this way the game will be very varied and qith a lot of different situation, but with a common graphic sense (i know i know.....is hard to explain something in a language that is not yours lol ^'_^).

Let me know what you think 😀

 

[nessonite1]

A big thanks to our wonderful "chief of the graphic section" ^_^ i think that the company name is "Digital Laughing".....i hope that anyone have the TM or (C) on it LOL

In English I think it works better as "Digital Laughter". 😀

i think that we should have a backgroud that describe the location (home, beach, school, gym...etc) and the character on it with the "chroma key effect" (is thios the right name of the effect? ); we can use the same body and the same backgrounds changing only the faces that shows the reactions of the girl to the player's actions

How much interaction is going to happen in the main screen? Are there going to be like multiple choices the player can make as to what to say to her or is all talking going to be done in Input mode? Sorry, I got Input and Interactive confused in my first post!

Is amazing if we can have some "before the action" scenes.....like the player that remove her shoes...or when he/she grab her feet....or something like this ^_^ in this way the game will not pass simply to the tickling part

Yes...I would like to see her bedroom (for example) be another scene in which you have to take certain steps before being allowed into Interactive mode. Gain her trust and talk her into getting undressed, being tied up, etc. 🙂

As for Interrogation mode...will the animations have more frames and will there be more "hot" spots than in normal Interactive mode?

My idea was to ask to each artist to make a girl with his own style (when i say "a girl" i mean all the animations, images, facial expressions...etc); i only hope that the "graphic division" of the Digital laughing LTD will have a meeting to discuss about a little common style to make the characters because all the characters should have something in common in the graphic, then each artist can customize the girl wit his own style in this way the game will be very varied and qith a lot of different situation, but with a common graphic sense

It would be difficult to make all the different girls have the same "feel" to them if each is going to be done by a seperate artist. Maybe we should embrace the differences and encourage artists do make their girl unique? Tomato Dragon, for example if he were to join in, has a VERY unique style that many people love and I wouldnt want to change it. 🙂

One concern I have is for the backgrounds. Props and backgrounds are NOT a strong point for me but I know Kalamos can draw ANYTHING. If he is willing I would like to employ him to do the background and prop work. 🙂 Also he would be great to draw and animate the "tools" for Ineractive mode. 😀

 

[footamateur]

OK 🙂 we use English, so it will be Digital Laughter 😀 lol

The interaction in the main screen will happen in 2 ways: the first is the navigation bar, where you can choose where to go. The girls will be in a certain location only in certain hours of the day, so is essential to know the girls, talk with them and build a relation (not intended exclusively as a love story...it can be also a friendship relation....depends about what you want from the girl😉 the choice is all in the player's hand ^_^ ) because if you'll not know them you'll not meet them (except for the school, that is the place where youbegin about all the relationship.....but there'll be some surprises 😀 ), even if you'll go in all the places 😉 this is to encourage the player to make something...instead of wandering around all the location and play without an objective 😀
The second way to interact is the multiple choices that you'll encounter while playing: for example in a certain moment the program will ask to you something, and from your reaction the story will go in a way or in another way 😀 is like an rpg where you'll have many quests (your player is not only a "tickling machine" LOL , he have his life, so he must do what all the normal people do: wake up, wash (maybe lol) , go to school (depends on the age and on the story, you can decide the age of your player and this will modify the game itself and the story ^_^). meet people, go to commercial center, and things like this; so if someone expect something like Meet the girl-tickle action is in the wrong place 😉

2 ) Of course 🙂 you must gain her trust before going to the "hot part" ;D this will happen gain points; when you talk and make choices the program will give to you (or will take away from you) a certain amount of points, so you must collect a certain amount of points (we can call them "trust points") to go at girl's home or to carry them in a place and tickle them ^_^

The interrogation mode can be like you said; we can make a poll to decide it 😉

3) I like the TD artworks, and i know that he have a very unique way to draw characters, like you and like other artists that i like very much inside TT 😉 but maybe you misunderstood my idea ^_^ i don't want that all the artist will make the same characters, i'm only trying to explain that you can't put a "manga style " girl with a "realistic style " girl in the same context 😉 if we'll have more artists i'm planning to make one story for each artist, so each artist can have the context that he like (in the end the base of the game is the graphic and interaction....so is good a n honest that the artists will decide about this 😀 i think another poll is needed for this 😉 ; of course if an artist can make more than one girl i'll go to the Pope in Rome by feet 😀 (is about 150 miles from my home lol ), this mean that i can build the TD world, the Nessonite world....etc etc 😉 so each artist can make all the variation that he/she want 😀 what you think? ^_^

I've received a PM from K (the big and only K ^_^)and i think that your choice is good 😉 i've also seen some drawings on his group, i'm courious to know if he can also help you with the characters 😉 but i didn't saw japanese drawings in his folder; i don't know if he like to make those kind of drawings 😉
I'll talk with him via mail, then if he will like to join we can talk here all toghether 😉

For the backgrounds adn props is ok 😉 we can also take some ideas from artworks taken from hentai games that i have on my computer, in the end buildings and props are something that you can't put under copyright 😉 so we can take some ideas from them 😉
Also the animated tools is something hardly needed 😉 i've searched around the net but i found only the ugly icons that you cna see in the game 🙁🙁

LEt me know what you think 😉

 

[nessonite1]

Every time you tell me how the game will be it is more complicated than I thought before! I am not a programer at all so it AMAZES me how much you can make the game the way you want it. 😀 I guess rather than try to understand it, it is easier for me to say "you want this? Okay, we'll get it for you!"
LOL 😀
I know K CAN do anime style. He can do ANYTHING. 😀 He sounds very interested in the project when I have spoken with him about it.

Please list the different areas in the game. I know you said there will be a school. Do you want conversations to take place only outside the school or inside too? I just want a basic idea of how many backgrounds we will be needing. 🙂

 

[Kalamos]

/me was here.

 

[nessonite1]

Was he? Where is he now? 😛

 

[Kalamos]

Somewhere else.

 

[footamateur]

Every time you tell me how the game will be it is more complicated than I thought before! I am not a programer at all so it AMAZES me how much you can make the game the way you want it. 😀 I guess rather than try to understand it, it is easier for me to say "you want this? Okay, we'll get it for you!"
LOL 😀
I know K CAN do anime style. He can do ANYTHING. 😀 He sounds very interested in the project when I have spoken with him about it.

Please list the different areas in the game. I know you said there will be a school. Do you want conversations to take place only outside the school or inside too? I just want a basic idea of how many backgrounds we will be needing. 🙂

LOOOL 😀

I know that is hard to explain what i'm doing and what i have in my mind 😉 but if the things are complicated is only because i want to make something that the people will enjoy and will remember for long time 😉
They'll talk about this strange Italian programmer that change the face of the tickling games ^_^ and this is all for you; all for our beloved members ^_^ 😉

I prefer that you understand what i'm trying to do, because i don't like to say "you do this...you do that" 🙁 i like to discuss about every single frame and component of the game, because YOU must enjoy it 😀 i can do it at my home in the way that i prefer, but is not so satisfying as when you see that the people that play to the game like it very much (is hard....i don0't know if you'll understand what i wrote LOL in the next months i'll take my english courses, because finally i had my green card; so i'm a US resident ^_^ and soon i'lòl be a US citizen LOL so i must improve my bad english ^_^).

K: i'll be happy to know if you're interested in this project 😉 you don't need my permission to join in 😀 Nessie told me many times that you're great, and i trust her 😉 so i hope you'll join 😀 when you want to talk i've sent to you a mail with my mail address, so we can talk without problem 😀

About the backgrounds: depends about what you like 🙂 usually the conversation will happen in the classroom, or in the gym of the school, but they can happen also in the courtyard or near the roads around the school 🙂
I'm preparing some polls, so we can decide all those things 😉

 

[Kalamos]

K: i'll be happy to know if you're interested in this project 😉 you don't need my permission to join in 😀 Nessie told me many times that you're great, and i trust her 😉

Just give a glance to my pics and see how you like them; no need to blindly trust Ness about me.

Dai un occhio ai miei disegni e vedi tu stesso se ti piacciono...

Ti segnalo inoltre che non mi è arrivato nulla.

 

[footamateur]

Just give a glance to my pics and see how you like them; no need to blindly trust Ness about me.

Dai un occhio ai miei disegni e vedi tu stesso se ti piacciono...

Ti segnalo inoltre che non mi è arrivato nulla.

I saw them, but now i can't access to your site 🙁 if you have another place where you've put your drawings let me know the url 😀

Is strange that you didn't receive my pm O_O, i'll send to you another one 😉 or if you're connected now on yahoo i'll be there for 15 minutes.....tomorrow i must go to work ^_^

 

[footamateur]

ok, finally i can see your group 😀
stop squirming picture and dungeon master pictures are very interesting 🙂 have you other pictures of your works ? ^_^

 

[Kalamos]

Sì. Su questo stesso forum.


Cmq non mi sono arrivati messaggi su yahoo. E nemmeno PM. Immagino ci siano problemi. 🙄

 

[nessonite1]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand what you mean, FA. You are a programmer so I think naturally you are "left brained" It's easy for you to read and understand something. I am "right brained" and think VERY visually. It's hard for me to understand something that is written instead of drawn out. 😛
I try though! Just dont get mad if I don't always understand. 🙂
Would be easier if we lived close and could collaborate on paper! LOL

 

[footamateur]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand what you mean, FA. You are a programmer so I think naturally you are "left brained" It's easy for you to read and understand something. I am "right brained" and think VERY visually. It's hard for me to understand something that is written instead of drawn out. 😛
I try though! Just dont get mad if I don't always understand. 🙂
Would be easier if we lived close and could collaborate on paper! LOL

Nessie: how i can be mad with you ? ^_^ lol you're the person that all the programmers want to work with, because you ask info...you put passion in the things that you do 🙂 i'm happy to have this collaboration with you 😉
Is true that i'm left brained...but only because my right part is absent LOOOL my neurons are few...and concentrated mainly in a litle spot near the forehead....there's a lot of space inside here ^_^ 😀😀😀
I'm a visual person, but i'm not a person that can transfer the idea in the (litle) brain to the paper...that's why i'm a programmer 😀 you talk about actions to do...and i see the code to realize it in my head and on my keyboard ;🙂 to make love i have a diagram (many...to tell the truth ) LOL ^_^ that's why i prefer to explain my ideas then i prepare a little trial, so you can see what i'm talking about 😉 i think that this is the best that i can to explain what is inside my head ;D

If i can work with you side by side i think that i can be the lucky man on the earth 😀 only few times i had a close working relationship with the graphic department in my company; and was amazing to ask for something and see it 5 minutes after the request, talk about it in real time, make the cjhanges and put the graphic inside the program or the game...is something amazing ^_^ also because you save a lot of time and there's not so much problem provoked by misunderstanding 😀

Try to ask to me what is not clear....i'll try to explain it as best as i can, adn if you want a demostration you need only to ask and i can prepare it 😉

 

[nessonite1]

hahaha when you some to the states stop in New Jersey and we'll get more work done on the game in one day than in 6 months of email! 😀

 

[footamateur]

😀 i'll be in US in Jan 😉 i'll go to live in CO....is far the NJ ? ^_^ i'll carry with me the laptop...so we can work toghethe 😉 lol

 

[nessonite1]

hahaha Colorado is VERY far from New Jersey. About 2,000 miles actually.
I've been to Colorado in Winter before and it is BEAUTIFUL country!
I live about 30 minutes from New York City if you know where that is. 😛

 

[footamateur]

I have an idea about where is new yourk 😀 anyway i make about 2000 miles to reach CA....where my wife's parents live 😀 so i'm used to travel lol 😉

 

[footamateur]

Sì. Su questo stesso forum.


Cmq non mi sono arrivati messaggi su yahoo. E nemmeno PM. Immagino ci siano problemi. 🙄

Dove? mi dai il link? ^_^

Allora provo a collegarmi con yahoo, visto che i pm qui non ti arrivano 😀
cmq la mia mail e [email protected] 😉