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Historical tickling, truth or legend?

vampyr

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Hi all. Did anyone watch that show on A & E Network, "Russia, Land Of The Tsars"? That episode about Catherine The Great made me think of soomething I had read quite some time ago.

Now I don't know how true this is and A & E certainly did not mention it, but I read that there was a time when a chambermaid did something to displease Catherine. To punish the girl the
Tsaress had her tied up in the grand ballroom and invited all the titled people of the court to come in. They were then invited (or ordered) to take turns punishing the girl by tickling her feet. This
went on for nearly 4 hours before a court physician warned Catherine that the girl could die if they did not stop. After that she was set free.

Now as if that were not enough I went exploring a little more. I found out the Marquis De Sade experiemnted with tickling also. in his own book "Justine" he talks about tickling women until they reach orgasm; he refers to it as "worrying the soles of their feet with feathers". He also suggests that he ticked several pregnant women to see if hysterical laughter would cause them to miscarry.
(That to me sounds extremely gross!)

I am just wondering if anyone else has heard of any examples of
erotic tickling far back in history.
 
Albigenses

I heard, long ago, an unconfirmed report that the Albigenses (a minor religion during the middle ages) were tickle tortured (often to death from internal abdominal hemorrhaging caused by prolonged laughter) by the Spanish Inquisition. I never could find corroboration.
 
I am pretty sure that the Catherine the Great episode you described is fact, not fiction. I have read of it before, but I don't remember where.

When I was about 7 years old I was taught by nuns in Parochial Elementary School. One of the things we studied about was martyrdom. I remember our teacher telling us that priests in China were occasionally martyred by tickling. As I remember it, their chests were bound tight so they couldn't breath. I have no idea if this is true or not, and I'm not sure that anyone could verify it.
 
As I remember it, their chests were bound tight so they couldn't breath. I have no idea if this is true or not, and I'm not sure that anyone could verify it. [/B][/QUOTE]

THAT I know is true because I heard the same story; although not from any Catholic school teacher. I was spared that form of education, although a close friend of mine went to a Catholic school and has less than fond memories of a nun they all called "Sister Caligula".

But to get back on track. I also recall hearing that titled Russian women would often hire peasant men to come to their oppulent homes and tickle them. The men would accompany their tickling by singing songs with raunchy lyrics while the women vicariously experienced sexual arousal. Curious to say the least.

Oddly enough I remember reading in some very old book that in Holland of the 15th and 16th Centuries it was ruled by the Magistrates that women of childbearing age could not be tortured by "conventional" methods such as the rack or branding or thumbscrews and so tickling was substituted not only as a torture but also a punishment for women convicted of stealing or adultery. How times have changed.
 
Well, this is a topic of which I actually have something worthwhile to contribute 🙂

Regarding the story of Russian women paying to have their feet tickled -- the story is in a book called "The sexual history of the foot and the shoe", which has a whole section on tickling. It goes on to say that the practice continued even with high level Communist Party wives. Corruptress, if you're interested in reading more the book is at the Temple University Library 🙂

Regarding torture: The goat's tongue has been listed often as a means of tickle torture. I have two mainstream clips, one b&w and one color, that both demonstrate this practice. Both times they were performed by monks, which I found quite interesting. The color clip shows one monk really getting off on watching the man hold back, and finally succumb to the tickling sensations, and I thought it was quite unusual that they even have one goat licking the man's ear. Incidentally, anyone else know this clip and where it's from?

Anabaptists, a very conservative Christian sect in Germany, were also rumored to use tickling as a disciplinary measure. Someone said that they'd seen a woodcut of this practice, but I've never seen it.

I also heard a story long ago that in South America, Nazi soldiers took up the habit of tying local people with their hands above their head and making them "dance" by tickling their sides.

Regarding the Marquis de Sade, I have his works and there definitely are tickling references in it...Justine in particular makes several references to the practice as erotica and as pure torture ("kneading their sides while they struggled wildly" and the like).

Some years ago I came across two citations of articles regarding tickling. One, from the "American Journal of Psychanalysis" in 1947, detailed the case history of a man with an obsession with tickling women. The other is from the "Journal of Human Sexuality," circa 1969 called "Sex and Tickling". It was apparently a lengthy article, but I was never able to locate these volumes and therefore do not know their contents. But apparently, other people have been pondering tickling as erotica.

Hope that provides some info 🙂 I've been collecting this stuff for a zillion years so I am glad that I can finally share some of what I know!

Peace, Stacy
 
Brava!

Any woman who has read the Marquis De Sade is okay with me. Very well researched and well expressed Stacy. Merci Bien!
 
Regarding torture: The goat's tongue has been listed often as a means of tickle torture. I have two mainstream clips, one b&w and one color, that both demonstrate this practice. Both times they were performed by monks, which I found quite interesting. The color clip shows one monk really getting off on watching the man hold back, and finally succumb to the tickling sensations, and I thought it was quite unusual that they even have one goat licking the man's ear. Incidentally, anyone else know this clip and where it's from?

The movie is an Italian production of the 1970. The title is: "Una spada per Brando" ("A sword for Brando"). The man tickled is an italian actor. His name
is Ivano Staccioli.
 
RichardA said:
I heard, long ago, an unconfirmed report that the Albigenses (a minor religion during the middle ages) were tickle tortured (often to death from internal abdominal hemorrhaging caused by prolonged laughter) by the Spanish Inquisition. I never could find corroboration.

Not exactly Spanish Inquisition.
It was actually a french commander, Simon de Montfort.

In early XIII century [that is two centuries before "proper" Spanish Inquisition, Spain wasn't even whole, back in 1200] Montfort led a military/religious crusade in southern France.

He was known as a ruthless man, bent on conquering by brutal means. Reportedly, while laying siege to a city where a bunch of heretic took refuge, he had no qualms about ordering mass attack.

Historians claim he said: "God would recognize his flock. Kill them all". 🙁 🙁 🙁
Quite a nice git, too bad he was not an Orc warlord, but a real historical figure.

About tickling heretics...
It COULD be fact he actually did it.
It seems he was fond of torture. In particular, he tickle-tortured young "heretic" girls into confession, then tickle-tortured them a bit more, until they died.

Not my kind of personal hero, but there ya go. 🙂


Reg's.
 
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corruptress said:
Oddly enough I remember reading in some very old book that in Holland of the 15th and 16th Centuries it was ruled by the Magistrates that women of childbearing age could not be tortured by "conventional" methods such as the rack or branding or thumbscrews and so tickling was substituted not only as a torture but also a punishment for women convicted of stealing or adultery. How times have changed.

So would this explain why tickle racks are popular at Ren faires?
 
There is a book out called "The Men Of The Pink Triangle" where a witness describes a man who was tortured by Nazis.

The first thing they did to him was restrain him to the wall naked and tickled him until he screamed and cried.
 
the hollywood brother guess it is a real torture but who knows how often it did or did not happen
 
The Dows being the great historian he is (studying for a Diploma) Can tell you that the Cathrine the Great story is true and theirs more to it. Courtiers reported that the great Tsarina actually had a group of men who would hold down the good ladies feet and tickle her while they told her dirty stories. This has been noted several times by historians studying the period. Look at it this way guys, were not the ones who discovered this kink, its been around probably scince one man said to another woman ug! So if u were a king or lord and had this kink im sure you use those rights to act out some fantasies.
 
Some of what you all have posted sounds very familiar and some is news to me like De Sade using tickling as a torture (maybe he wasn't such a bad guy after all except for the miscarriage part that is).

Someone mentioned a book about feet and shoes. If I'm not mistaken, the actual title is "The sex life of the foot and the shoe". I got it through interlibrary lone once. It's loaded with info and does cover the russian ladies of high rank having servants to come and tickle their feet in order to prepair them for sex with their husbands/lovers. It also tells about how the russians learned this art from the Tartar tribes.

As far as DeMonfort goes, I read somewhere on the net that there is no real proof and that it's mostly chalked up to fantasy. That is not to say that DeMonfort wasn't real. He was indeed real and was an inquisitor as Kalamos pointed out.

"The torture of the goat's tongue" was also true though I don't know what country reffered too it as that.

In France it has been said that people were tickled to death while having their chests bound to reduce breathing and that their sides actually did split.

The romans suposedly tortured gladiators or maybe it was soldiers by applying a salt solution applied to the soles and goats were invited to lick them until they were raw at which point more of the solution was added and all of this suposedly lead to an agonizing death.

In China a boy and girl around 13-15 were to be punished with foot torture which also included tickling. It is said that one or both of them couldn't walk afterward. Another cruel act of foot torture in china was used to force exausted victims awake by placing twisted pieces of paper between the toes and lighting them with fire. It was called star-kicking.

There was indeed a sect of german ticklers called the kitzlersect. They were a group of tickling enthusiasts who often got together and tickled their wives. Also it is said that some younger women in the family were punished with tickling at these meetings and that some died due to hightened sensory caused by puberty.

There really is a ton of stuff like this all over the net. You just got to know how to search skillfully to find it. If I come across any of my collection of historical tickle torture, I'll post it.

-TK
 
The great female pharaoh Hatshepsut (1503-1482 bc) in Egypt was known to ask eunuchs to tickle the soles of her feet with peacock feathers to be sexually aroused before receiving her lovers.
 
"The Sex Life of the Foot & Shoe"
by William A. Rossi. Copyright 1976.

Foot-Tickled To Passion.
Page 29

Another graphic example of the foot’s ‘sexual nerves’is found in the foot’s sensory-rich sole & its response, often erotic & sensual, to tickling. The noted psychologist Albert Moll states that the sole of the foot has a sensory quility “whose stimulation gives rise, directly or indirectly, to voluptuous sensations.”
As everyone knows, foot-tickling can drive some into flights of ecstasy & others to madness.
Essentially, however, the response to foot-tickling is sexual. Says Aigremont, “The tickling of the soles of the feet has been used by many preparatory to coitus. It serves as a foreplay center so it might prolong the sexual enjoyment as much as possible.”
Foot-tickling as an erotic stimulus is age-old & universal. “The sophisticated lover”, says Renbourn, “knows that many women get intense erotic pleasure when the feet are gently stroked - like having the ear lobes nibbled.” Paintings of foot-tickling can be seen in the Louvre as well as in the Museum of Pius Clementia in Rome. They’re also commonly found in China, Japan, India, & Southeast Asia. Egyptian Queen Hatshepsut (1600 b.c.) used to prepare for her lovers with exquisite podocosmetic care. First the skin of her feet were rubbed & scented with oil of ani until it glowed as though coated with gold. Then as she reclined on a luxurious lounge, palace eunuchs tickled the bottoms of her feet with peacock feathers “to bring her to a pitch of sexual readiness.’
A short while ago a wealthy New York socialite visited her psychiatrist & asked whether she should “Break the habit”. “What habit?” he asked.
She explained the 2 or 3 times a week she thoroughly rubbed the soles & toes of her feet with dog food. Then she summoned her 2 Pomeranians & they eagerly licked the scent of the food from her feet.
“It drives me to a sexual frenzy - the tickling sensation on my feet,” she confessed. “It brings me to orgasm almost every time. Or sometimes I masterbate while the dogs are licking my feet. Doctor, is there,
well, something wrong with that? With me?”
“Why not go the straight route with a man?” he asked.
“Oh, I enjoy sex with men, all right. But this foot-tickling & foot-licking thing is something special, something extra. If I asked a man to do that - well, wouldn’t he think me mad or something?”
The doctor pondered the matter a moment, then said, “Why not ask the man? It might work, especially if you make it mutual.”
She called a month later. “Doctor,” she said excitedly, “please excuse the pun, but we’re tickled to death. My lover & I , we’re doing it to each other, & following it with real sex. It’s given sex a whole new feeling for me.”
The Russians, especially among the nobility & aristicracy, were devotees of sexual foot-tickling. They had learned it from the Tartar tribes. Foot-tickling for sexual arousal was used in the Muscovite palaces & courts for centuries.
Many of the Czarinas (Catherine the Great, Anna Ivanovna, Elizabeth, Anna Leopoldovna, & others) were ardent participants.
In fact, the practice was so popular that eunuchs & women were
employed as full time foot-ticklers. They developed this unique skill so well that their occupations brought prestige & good pay.
Anna Leopoldovna had no fewer than 6 ticklers at her feet, though more were employed to serve the other ladies of the court.
The foot-tickling was usually done on the private boudoirs. While the ticklers performed their task they also told baudy stories & sang obcene ballads, thus creating a sort of orgiastic atmosphere. All this, of course, was to work the ladies up to an erotic pitch so that they could meet their husbands or lovers in a sex-impassioned mood. It wasn't uncommon for these women to experience orgasms while being foot-tickled.
A few years ago, while I was visiting Russia & studying their foot wear industry there, the director of a large shoe plant employing some 7000 showed me a private collection of historical shoes from different parts of the world. In a corner was a vase containing several long, brilliantly covered feathers, & also slender artist's brushes with exquisitely soft bristles. As I touched them I recognized that they were ladies' foot ticklers.
The director smiled & said, "Ah, you seem to know what they are. Well, as old as they are, they are not out of date. They are prized by some of our Russian women today. Perhaps you would be surprised to know that the wife of one of our highest party officials & some of her friends of equal standing, are known to . . ." His voice faded & the subject was abruptly changed. Later, in Hungary, & Czechoslovakia, I saw similar foot ticklers.'
Yes, the foot is rich with its own”sexual nerves”. It is no mere coincidence, as cited earlier, that the foot possesses such an abundance of sensory spots. This clearly evident by the common erotic responses to such acts as foot-tickling, foot-massaging, foot-biting, toe-sucking, foot-kissing, etc. Sensual response to such actions is inevitable because first, we are dealing with a naturally erogenous part, & second, because all such actions involve touch, the most sexual of all the senses.
 
BRAVO!! Well done, Bart! Well done! That brought back so many memories of when I read that long ago. Just lastnight, I was thinking about the woman who spread dogfood on her soles and had her dogs lick it off! That book also talks about women using vacuum cleaners on their feet too doesn't it? Another good foot fetish book is "Foot Notes" I forget the author's name. Both books do mention a foot club that had existed once through mail order I think it was. "The Lotus Love Foot Erotica Club of America". This was long before the internet. I was never able to find it and eventually gave up looking. Members were said to have worn a small, plastic foot on a necklace hidden beneath their shirts.
 
Kinda strange reading about these things from the point of view of being a tickle-phile in this day. Seems to me that punishment like that would only encourage me to be bad.
 
historical tickling...

Sorry to derail many fantasies here, but it never took place as a specific "sentenced" torture or punishment. Tickler's base their theories on fetish folklore and books designed soley to sell to fetishists- all that must be discounted.

The reasons are too numerous to mention, and logic of it outrules even that.

But I guess you can't stop people from believing what they want to be true.

KJ
 
Thought I'd share another bit I came across about the Russians:

"....she [Empress Elizabeth] would often stay up all night chattering and gossiping with her ladies while they tickled her feet to keep her awake, and generally went to bed at seven in the morning."

Land of the Firebird
Suzanne Massie. Copyright 1980.
 
Here's one from India. I found this in a newspaper article from July 1873:

SHAM MURDER IN BENGAL

". . . On this, Koylash, who seems to have been, for the time, alike judge, public prosecutor, and executioner, beat his victim over the head, kicked him in the back, cut him with rattans, tickled his feet, stuck pins in his ears, and employed other ingenious devices to force a confession of guilt. . . ."

George
 
Interesting, and good research, but not historical...

Not to be a spoilsport and sticking to the historical nature of tickling as a punishment...

Thought I'd share another bit I came across about the Russians:

"....she [Empress Elizabeth] would often stay up all night chattering and gossiping with her ladies while they tickled her feet to keep her awake, and generally went to bed at seven in the morning."

Land of the Firebird
Suzanne Massie. Copyright 1980.

I have this book, and don't recall that passage- but will certainly seek it out. Thank you!

As far as simple minute playful tickles for fun go, I'm sure history abounds with them, most lost to the few seconds they took pace in and forgotten seconds afterwards by those that did them. Who would be there to document it anyway?

This is a book of great merit for documenting day to day life in early Russia, and many Colleges even carry the book and recommend it, even though in nature in places it takes some historical license, and some events (just a few) are not "documentable" as a historical documentation goes. Much like works on Catherine the Great, when the book was rereleased in 1993 some ado was stirred up by Russian historians (though little was done about it) for some misleading sections. According to my friend Tatiana who was born and raised in Russia and is well versed (as are all Russians) with their history- Elizabeth never indulged in tickling as a punishment or sport or such things, nor did Catherine... regality had it limits too...... she went deep into history books and did a great deal of research for me years ago. So one must ask, if the Russians don't know about it, and Elizabeth's court documents have no such record... how did this English writer get that information?

One answer is this: no one ever associated people such as Elizabeth or Catherine the Great with tickling until ticklers and the fetish thereof became poplular, and then only after hollywood made a comedy film about Catherine and took great license by adding a tickling scene. Use your own judgement on that one.

Another call could be, and one I've pointed out in many past posts- the connotation of the word "tickle" had a far different meaning back then and even into medieval times.

Looking at that passage, merely tickling one's feet to keep them awake is just a playful thing- not a punishment. I'm sure tickling of that nature goes right back to the cavemen. But very good research on your part!

Georgevvvvv said:
Here's one from India. I found this in a newspaper article from July 1873:

SHAM MURDER IN BENGAL

". . . On this, Koylash, who seems to have been, for the time, alike judge, public prosecutor, and executioner, beat his victim over the head, kicked him in the back, cut him with rattans, tickled his feet, stuck pins in his ears, and employed other ingenious devices to force a confession of guilt. . . ."

George

Also very good. Please send me the source of that article and where to locate it, thank you. I'd like to research it.

It's articles like that however- mosy likely altered over the years- that lend even more credence to the fact that tickling was never really used as a specific sentenced historical torture, and this time out you need only use simple logic: after being beaten severely over the head, getting kicked, cut to bloody ribbons with rattan canes, and pins stuck in you.... as well as other ingenious devices used... do you think for one minute you'd ever feel the tickling? Someone after witnessing all that harsh and life threatening agony and torture said "Hey I know what! Lets TICKLE him now to get a real reaction!"..??

KJ
 
Kujman1 said:
Please send me the source of that article and where to locate it, thank you. I'd like to research it.

It's from the 14 July 1873 edition of the New York Times, page 4.
 
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