How long before ticklishness comes back after a ticklee becomes desensitized?

[The Last Laugh]

Hello all,

I'd like some feedback on an issue that's somewhat of a problem for me. Suppose you tickle a ticklee in a way that, unfortunately, leads to her not feeling much of anything anymore after a while. She's become desensitized. In your own experience, how long would you say it can take before her ticklishness comes back?

I don't have much experience with tickling sessions that allow me to wait a while until a ticklee becomes reasonably ticklish again. My time is usually more limited than that. I'm sure it varies greatly from person to person, and many factors come into it, but basically, are we talking 5 minutes, here? 20 minutes? An hour? More?

I'd like to get a general idea how long I might need to wait between scenes when shooting a video so I can plan sessions accordingly. I find that feet are especially vulnerable to the desensitization phenomenon, which is frustrating. The model starts just fine, but a few minutes later it becomes quite a challenge to even make her giggle. That's not how it happens with everyone, but it's not rare.

Do you have any tricks for speeding up the process? Anything the model should do so that she gains back her ticklishness faster?

Thank you for any advice you can provide.

 

[Whacky Macky]

Well, my answer to you is pick the right model 🙂

I could tickle my girlfriend into the dim hours of the morning and her sensitivity remains EXACTLY the same...as long as you continue up and down the body, and vary your technique, the proper ticklee's sensitivity is limitless....

 

[dvnc]

Wow. I'm surprised more folks didn't kick down some info on this.

It's my observation, personally, from gatherings and personal play, that it REALLY does depend on the ticklee. Whacky Macky is right. Surprised no one else said so.

As for what "revives" such, that too depends. Some folks revive well by resting quietly for a moment. Some require longer. For some, you have to start and stop a lot, which for you means more editing afterwards. For others, they last only a while before desensitizing.

For some, it's a defense against nerve overload. Those ones you gotta tickle in ways that don't overload 'em. Gently instead of hard.

Might wanna arrange pay based on "ticklish time", and provided as many breaks as a model needs to keep her stamina up. Breaks are free, but plentiful, then, and thus the model lady is fresh for the shoot. More than one company has used that method. Some just offer a flat rate for "the video's worth (n minutes, where n is the time you require), so that the model can recover as much as possible and necessary.

Hope this helps!

dvnc

 

[Iggy pop]

Desensitization is a common occurence. In fact I think most people become desensitized, and I think its often the culprit when you see girls in videos that are not very ticklish. Yes, the feet are one of the quickest areas of the body to become desensitized. For example, I knew this one girl that if you tickled her feet she would be begging and screaming for the first minute. In the second minute she would only be gigling, and after that her feet lost their ticklishness completely. She, however, was an extreme case. Some people desensitize very quickly and others very slowly or not all. I think you should look for model in the latter category, and avoid tickling in one place too long.

 

[MistressValerie]

Ah, that's the beauty of adding some upper-body tickling to a video -- it gives the feet a chance to rest and recover their sensitivity. Changing tickle-spots is the best way to keep the 'lee sensitive, and having the 'lee change position can sometimes help as well.

Would that we could all tickle our 'lees non-stop for as long as we wanted without any loss of effect ...

Love and laughter,

 

[ShiningIce]

I've seen alot of women who are so ticklish they never got desensitized.

 

[dvnc]

My woman's one of 'em, 'Ice. Never stops bein' ticklish. I ain't one of 'em. I desensitize fairly quickly, most of the time. When I don't, though, it's viscious.

Folks will believe what they've experienced, though. If a body never met someone who was an everlasting 'lee, it would SOUND like dream, wouldn't it? Ain't real for most 'til they experience it for themselves.

I'll add agreement to what Mistress Valerie says about varying the tickle spots. Part of why my lady 'lee doesn't tire of her tickling is that I don't tickle the same spot for very long. More fun for me to get all the spots than to get just one. Variety IS the spice of life!

Another $0.02 to the discussion,

dvnc

 

[QBWeaver]

One way to help keep the footsies more ticklish is make sure they are nice in warm. There have been discussions long ago about roasting and heat lamps but those are not recommended as they will probably cause more fear than fun. And I would strongly recommend no one use those methods unless you are already experienced with them or have someone around who knows all about it.

Keep some warm socks on hand. Maybe put them in the oven, on a low heat, for a while to really warm up. Or a heating pad will help too.

For me, the ticklishness never goes away. Then the warm socks or heating pad just makes it even worse for me (or better depending on how you look at it!)

 

[The Last Laugh]

Well, my answer to you is pick the right model 🙂

Hehe! Well, I would if I could, but as you know it's not that simple. I certainly don't have a large enough pool of models to be very selective and only pick the ones that don't desensitize very quickly or at all. I have to compromise. It's not like I select tricky model on purpose.

I could tickle my girlfriend into the dim hours of the morning and her sensitivity remains EXACTLY the same...as long as you continue up and down the body, and vary your technique, the proper ticklee's sensitivity is limitless....

I'm sure that in some cases it is a simple matter of changing targets, intensity, techniques, etc. But some other people get quickly desensitized no matter what. This is especially true with the feet of a ticklee that requires some digging/scratching to get her going. Ticklees that are resonably sensitive to lighter touches tend to be more regular, or at least that's my experience.

You're really lucky to have a girlfriend who remains ticklish all the time. I'm only asking for a tickling video model like that, and I'm having a really hard time finding one.

Ah, that's the beauty of adding some upper-body tickling to a video -- it gives the feet a chance to rest and recover their sensitivity.

I do try to do a decent amount of upper body tickling. I adds variety, most of the models are decently ticklish there, and it does give the feet a chance. Besides, a lot of people actually prefer upper body tickling. But the fact remains that the feet are probably the most popular target, so I try my best to find models that are ticklish enough on their feet to make up nearly half of a vid's content. Models like that are surprisingly hard to find, at least for me. If it weren't for my foot "requirement", I'd have a much easier time finding models. But also I get the feeling I wouldn't sell quite as many videos, as many people overlook videos that don't have a high content of foot tickling.

Changing tickle-spots is the best way to keep the 'lee sensitive, and having the 'lee change position can sometimes help as well.

I agree. It surprises the ticklee both psychologically and physically. It keeps her guessing. Tickling her in several places at the same time is another way of keeping her off balance, preventing her from concentrating on one particular spot, and each body part can become more ticklish than if it were the only one being tickled. A kind of tickle synergy.

As for positions, I must admit I've been pleasantly surprised at times. I don't understand why someone would be more ticklish, say, on her stomach than when sitting upright, especially if we're only talking about the feet, but sometimes it does make a difference. I guess it has something to do with the ticklee feeling more vulnerable in one position than anyone. Or maybe more comfortable physically, I don't know. Not being able to see what's going on may play a role too. And sometimes a ticklee is more ticklish with her wrists free than restrained, even if it makes it harder for the tickler, which is something I don't understand at all.

In one case I had a model who was significantly more ticklish on her upper body when her wrists were tied to the sides, her arms stretched in a "T" position, than when her arms were simply stretched above her head. She was lying on her back in both cases, so the positions really weren't all that different, and I would expect a model to be a tad more sensitive with her arms completely above her head, as it reveals her torso even more. Go figure. But I'm not complaining if it works. Finding the positions that work especially well with a given model can be tricky, though.

Keep some warm socks on hand. Maybe put them in the oven, on a low heat, for a while to really warm up. Or a heating pad will help too.

I agree that dry, warm feet tend to be the most sensitive. And I guess warm socks can do the trick. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

However, I find that it can be hard to keep the feet completely dry. In most cases the feet eventually get hot enough to sweat a bit, and this is bad for the more superficial side of tickling. It doesn't matter as much for rougher tickling techniques that involve digging or tools like a hairbrush, but warm, dry feet are still the best. It seems to me that as useful as warm socks may be in some cases, in others they might just make the feet sweat more. As usual, it varies from person to person, and experientation is necessary.

 

[Lorelei]

All posts here are good suggestions. I would add that if you start right out with the powerhouse tickling, us gals desensitize faster. Whereas if it starts out with the spot-tickling and the eensy-touch tickling or the pokey-tickling (with a little stick or whatever) INSTEAD of the hard grabby tickling... well then the sensitivity seems to last longer.

I don't know how long it takes me to recover, I've never had the chance. If I'm tickled too _hard_ early in a video scene, I desensitize before the scene has ended. Once I desensitize, I just can't get much of that back in the few minutes left of the scene.

Changing spots is important too because if someone tickles me hard on the sole in a certain area for too long, without traveling up the body and then back down again, they're gonna overdo that footspot awful fast.

--Lorelei 🙂

 

[The Last Laugh]

All posts here are good suggestions. I would add that if you start right out with the powerhouse tickling, us gals desensitize faster. Whereas if it starts out with the spot-tickling and the eensy-touch tickling or the pokey-tickling (with a little stick or whatever) INSTEAD of the hard grabby tickling... well then the sensitivity seems to last longer.

Hello Lorelei,

Overall I agree with you. Rougher tickling can indeed lead to quicker desensitization, and it's fun to do some more teasing tickling in addition to the more intense kind. However, my problem is that many of the candidates I have are not receptive to light tickling at all. It simply doesn't tickle them, or barely so, even at first. I get the feeling there are fewer easily-tickled people out there than many people think. Often (too often), more vigorous techniques are required to get decent reactions. Quite a frustrating situation, because not only does it mean skipping the fun teasing phase of light tickling, but it also means that my models are likely to become desensitized fairly quickly, no matter what I do.

Naturally, one could suggest that I use candidates that are more sensitive to light tickling. Well, the problem with that is that so far I've been rather unlucky with the ticklishness of my candidates. I don't have many candidates that are reasonably easy to tickle. I don't know why, and I would have expected a higher percentage of decent candidates, but there's little I can do about it. Most of my candidates are somewhat of a challenge to tickle, and thus I hesitate to hire them for videos. That's the main reason why it's taking me so long to produce a second video.

 

[tcrewme]

Adding my 2cents.

Just thought I would mention something about dry soles...
Warm is very good but dry causes a problem, the feet get very red and swollen from the constant contact that comes from fingers.
Now if you add just a bit of baby lotion(olive oil if you plan to lick her toes too), well this adds a layer of oil between the soles and your fingers and allows your to tickle longer and keep that sensitivity. In fact, with oil being used, you can also tickle longer with hair brushes and such because again, the oil is a thin lubricant.
Works great and sensitivity stays at about the same level throughout the session(s).

 

[ForgottenTcklr]

I agree with the majority,

If you are making tickling videos with models who aren't really that ticklish... then we'll find out... it's obvious!!!

And then no one will want your videos in the future because we'll know that you use fake models.

So my advice is too also... GET NEW MODELS!!!

 

[The Last Laugh]

I agree with the majority,

If you are making tickling videos with models who aren't really that ticklish... then we'll find out... it's obvious!!!

And then no one will want your videos in the future because we'll know that you use fake models.

So my advice is too also... GET NEW MODELS!!!

Uhm, you know, I really don't think that was called for. I'm not saying I'm using models that aren't ticklish. I'm really not that stupid. I know it would be shooting myself in the foot. I'm saying that I'm having trouble finding models that are ticklish enough, not that I'm settling for mediocre ones. By compromise (as I mentioned in a previous message), I meant that some models have good potential but require more work. This makes the actual making of a video a little tougher, but this doesn't have to show in a video. If a model turns out not to have what it takes after all, then I just don't hire her.

I don't know if you simply missed the point of this thread, but I was under the impression it was about tickling desensitization. I don't see a bunch of messages from people coming down on me, saying that I should get more ticklish models. I started the thread to get advice on how to deal with models that have good potential but require more work than others due to desensitization. Like to get an idea how long a session can potentially take if I work with a model who needs breaks to regain her sensitivity so that the resulting video can be better.

Also, I may be wrong, but I think you have little idea how hard it is to find good models. It's not as simply as just "getting new models". I work hard to get them, put a lot of time and effort into the search, and more often than not I get stood up by candidates or simply don't get any respect from people who don't take my project seriously. Yet I still go at it, doing my best to find models that have the potential to allow me to produce decent videos that can please people in he community.

You're really under no obligation to buy any of my videos if you don't want to, you know, and there's no need to play the tickling video vigilante, trying to denounce me as a fraud who uses "fake models" (have you even seen Last Laugh Alpha?) So unless I really misinterpreted the negative tone of your message (in which case I apologize), I'll be more than happy not to sell one to you.

Everyone, I'm very sorry for posting a message with a somewhat negative content, but I felt I had to clarify this issue.

 

[dodger]

how long would you say it can take before her ticklishness comes back?
are we talking 5 minutes, here? 20 minutes? An hour? More?

3 weeks! At least 3 weeks! So plan accordingly.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Re: Re: How long before ticklishness comes back after a ticklee becomes desensitized?

3 weeks! At least 3 weeks! So plan accordingly.

Hehehe, that's good to know. I guess I could always plan a tropical cruise to pass the time between scenes while a model recuperates strapped down to a table in my studio/living room, waiting for my return as well as that of her ticklishness. I tell you, some tickling sessions are really long term projects.