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I need some advice in buying my new PC.
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BigJim said:
They probably skimped a lot on the other equipment that comes with it.
DutchTickler said:
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Processor (400 FSB)
512Mb PC2700 DDR333 RAM
160Gb UDMA 5400rpm Hard Drive
Option for Monitor
On-Board 5.1 Digital Surround Sound
Option for Speakers
256Mb ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 SE
DVD ReWriter
Microsoft Windows XP Home (Original CD and License)
1 Year RTB (Parts & Labour) and 4 Year RTB (Labour Only)
Logitech Deluxe Internet Keyboard and Scroll Mouse
Ability Office XP
MIDI Tower ATX Case 56K Fax Modem 3.5inch 1.44Mb FDD 6x USB Ports 3x FireWire 16x DVD Drive Power DVD Xp 6 Channel Software CD Creation & Copy Software
£699.00 (excl. VAT) £821.33 (incl. VAT
(The DVD-RW and the DVD-ROM drives are seperate.)
What does this spec look like?
Here's another one with a few upgrades. Your opinion DT?
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Processor (400 FSB)
1024Mb PC2700 DDR333 RAM
160Gb UDMA 5400rpm Hard Drive
18inch NEC 1860NX TFT Screen (Black)
Inegrated 5.1 Audio
Creative Inspire 4400 4.1 Surround Sound Speakers
256Mb GeForce FX 5200 TV Out/DVI
NEC Multi Format ND 1300 +/- DVD RW/CDRW
Microsoft Windows XP Home (Original CD & License)
3 Years On-Site (Parts & Labour) +3 years RTB (Labour Only)
MIDI Tower ATX Case 56K Fax Modem 1.44Mb Floppy Drive 6x USB Ports FireWire 16x DVD Drive & Playback Software CD Creation & Copy Software
£1199.00 (excl. VAT) £1408.83 (incl. VAT)
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Processor (400 FSB)
1024Mb PC2700 DDR333 RAM
160Gb UDMA 5400rpm Hard Drive
18inch NEC 1860NX TFT Screen (Black)
Inegrated 5.1 Audio
Creative Inspire 4400 4.1 Surround Sound Speakers
256Mb GeForce FX 5200 TV Out/DVI
NEC Multi Format ND 1300 +/- DVD RW/CDRW
Microsoft Windows XP Home (Original CD & License)
3 Years On-Site (Parts & Labour) +3 years RTB (Labour Only)
MIDI Tower ATX Case 56K Fax Modem 1.44Mb Floppy Drive 6x USB Ports FireWire 16x DVD Drive & Playback Software CD Creation & Copy Software
£1199.00 (excl. VAT) £1408.83 (incl. VAT)
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A 5400 rpm hard drive is unacceptable. 7200 rpm is the standard.
A Geforce 5200 FX won't do if you want to be able to play 3D games
fluently in the next 18 months. If you want a Geforce, at least go for a 5600 FX.
Also, with a 400 FSB processor, you might want to go with DDR400 memory. The increase in performance is not spectacular (maybe a few percent) but it won't do any harm and the price of DDR400 is almost the same as DDR333.
The fact that they didn't mention the motherboard probably indicates that it's cheap, although that's doesn't automatically mean it's a bad board.
So on the whole, the only real drawback of this config is the hard drive.
The graphics card depends on what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend on it.
A Geforce 5200 FX won't do if you want to be able to play 3D games
fluently in the next 18 months. If you want a Geforce, at least go for a 5600 FX.
Also, with a 400 FSB processor, you might want to go with DDR400 memory. The increase in performance is not spectacular (maybe a few percent) but it won't do any harm and the price of DDR400 is almost the same as DDR333.
The fact that they didn't mention the motherboard probably indicates that it's cheap, although that's doesn't automatically mean it's a bad board.
So on the whole, the only real drawback of this config is the hard drive.
The graphics card depends on what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend on it.
Hrmmm, they don't sell DDR400. Seems they skate a bit close to the edge with detail. I have to admit them not mentioning the motherboard was bothering me too. I was impressed though,by them not only installing the full version of XP, but providing a complete CD for it too. Not a recovery CD, but the programme CD! Not many companies will risk the "wrath of Gates" in such a frivolous manner. Heh heh.
Here's the specifications for a PC I got a quote for from a different company. I think this might be the ultimate blend. It's only a 3000+, but there ain't such a huge difference between that and the 3200+. The price for upgrading it is horrendous however; a hundred and fifty sodding quid. Upgrading a 2800+ to a 3000+ would only be about thirty pounds. Typical market ploy. Hoping there's plenty of dickheads who'll go for the best model on the market, just because "it's the best and I want it!" Quite a little earner I expect.
MESH MATRIX 2400 + TFT £799.00
BLACK MESH MIDI TOWER CASE +360W PSU + FDD
A7N8X NFORCE2 MB AUDIO/SPDIF/DUAL LAN/SATA/FIREWIRE
UPGRADE TO AMD ATHLON XP 3000+ CPU (400 MHZ) £120.00 (The 3200 would have been £270.00!!!! Robbing gits!)
UPGRADE TO 1024 MB (2X512 MB) PC2700 DDR MEMORY (400MHZ)£75
160GB ULTRA FAST (7200RPM) HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB BUFFER (What the hell is a hard drive buffer, anyway?)
16X DVD-ROM DRIVE
UPGRADE TO SONY MULTI BURNER £114.00 (Seperate optical drives.)
ATI RADEON 9600PRO TV DVI GRAPHICS CARD
17" SHARP TFT FLAT SCREEN WITH INTEGRATED STEREO SPEAKERS (BLACK)
LOGITECH KEYBOARD & OPTICAL MOUSE (BLACK)
LEXMARK SCANNER/PRINTER/COPIER £67
WINDOWS XP HOME (RECOVERY CD)
NVIDIA SOUNDSTORM AUDIO/DOLBYDIGITAL 5.1 SURROUND (Disabled.)
INTERNET READY WITH 56KBPS DATA/VOICE/FAX MODEM (Useless as a perforated diving suit.)
MICROSOFT WORKSUITE 2003 (OEM)
CREATIVE LABS INSPIRE 5300 FIVE POINT SURROUNDS (Deleted from order due to sound and speaker upgrade.)
GAME PAD + JOYSTICK + EXTREME GAMES BUNDLE + STUDIO 8 SE
UPGRADE TO CREATIVE LABS SOUNDBLASTER AUDIGY 2 SOUNDCARD & UPGRADE TO CREATIVE INSPIRE 6.1 - 6700 SPEAKERS £40
3 YEAR ON SITE HARDWARE WARRANTY
INSURED COURIER DELIVERY
VAT (Value Added Tax, or as I prefer to call it, Vague Additions to the Total.)
Total price including VAT and delivery.........
£1502.83
I think this might be the one. For a grand and a half, it had better bloody well be.
Here's the specifications for a PC I got a quote for from a different company. I think this might be the ultimate blend. It's only a 3000+, but there ain't such a huge difference between that and the 3200+. The price for upgrading it is horrendous however; a hundred and fifty sodding quid. Upgrading a 2800+ to a 3000+ would only be about thirty pounds. Typical market ploy. Hoping there's plenty of dickheads who'll go for the best model on the market, just because "it's the best and I want it!" Quite a little earner I expect.
MESH MATRIX 2400 + TFT £799.00
BLACK MESH MIDI TOWER CASE +360W PSU + FDD
A7N8X NFORCE2 MB AUDIO/SPDIF/DUAL LAN/SATA/FIREWIRE
UPGRADE TO AMD ATHLON XP 3000+ CPU (400 MHZ) £120.00 (The 3200 would have been £270.00!!!! Robbing gits!)
UPGRADE TO 1024 MB (2X512 MB) PC2700 DDR MEMORY (400MHZ)£75
160GB ULTRA FAST (7200RPM) HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB BUFFER (What the hell is a hard drive buffer, anyway?)
16X DVD-ROM DRIVE
UPGRADE TO SONY MULTI BURNER £114.00 (Seperate optical drives.)
ATI RADEON 9600PRO TV DVI GRAPHICS CARD
17" SHARP TFT FLAT SCREEN WITH INTEGRATED STEREO SPEAKERS (BLACK)
LOGITECH KEYBOARD & OPTICAL MOUSE (BLACK)
LEXMARK SCANNER/PRINTER/COPIER £67
WINDOWS XP HOME (RECOVERY CD)
NVIDIA SOUNDSTORM AUDIO/DOLBYDIGITAL 5.1 SURROUND (Disabled.)
INTERNET READY WITH 56KBPS DATA/VOICE/FAX MODEM (Useless as a perforated diving suit.)
MICROSOFT WORKSUITE 2003 (OEM)
CREATIVE LABS INSPIRE 5300 FIVE POINT SURROUNDS (Deleted from order due to sound and speaker upgrade.)
GAME PAD + JOYSTICK + EXTREME GAMES BUNDLE + STUDIO 8 SE
UPGRADE TO CREATIVE LABS SOUNDBLASTER AUDIGY 2 SOUNDCARD & UPGRADE TO CREATIVE INSPIRE 6.1 - 6700 SPEAKERS £40
3 YEAR ON SITE HARDWARE WARRANTY
INSURED COURIER DELIVERY
VAT (Value Added Tax, or as I prefer to call it, Vague Additions to the Total.)
Total price including VAT and delivery.........
£1502.83
I think this might be the one. For a grand and a half, it had better bloody well be.
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This sounds like a good config. Only you list two TFT monitors?
A hard drive buffer is cache memory.
A hard drive buffer is cache memory.
From www.meshcomputers.com comes the best config yet. (I think.)
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Processor
ASUS A7N8X nForce2 Deluxe Mainboard
2x (1394 Firewire, Serial ATA, 10/100 LAN) & S/PDIF
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
200GB 7200rpm Ultra DMA-133 HDD with 8MB Buffer
128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Graphics, TV Out/DVI
19" Mitsubishi Pro 930 Monitor (18" VIS CRT, .24mm)
48x CD Re-Writer & 16x DVD-ROM Drive (Combo)
SONY DVD Multi Burner (R/W all standard formats)*
Sound Blaster Audigy2 Dolby Surround with FireWire
Creative Labs Inspire 6700 6.1 Surround Speakers
Internet Ready V.92 56Kbps data/fax/voice modem
Network Ready integrated 10/100 Ethernet Adaptor
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
FREE Microsoft Works Suite 2003
FREE Pinnacle Studio 8 SE Video Editing Software
FREE 3 Year On-Site Warranty (UK Mainland only)
Midi Tower Case/6 USBs + Additional Features
I'm tempted to upgrade it to Windows XP Pro. Is there any reason I should? I have to confesss that I don't really know the difference. What does Pro have that Home doesn't?
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Processor
ASUS A7N8X nForce2 Deluxe Mainboard
2x (1394 Firewire, Serial ATA, 10/100 LAN) & S/PDIF
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
200GB 7200rpm Ultra DMA-133 HDD with 8MB Buffer
128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Graphics, TV Out/DVI
19" Mitsubishi Pro 930 Monitor (18" VIS CRT, .24mm)
48x CD Re-Writer & 16x DVD-ROM Drive (Combo)
SONY DVD Multi Burner (R/W all standard formats)*
Sound Blaster Audigy2 Dolby Surround with FireWire
Creative Labs Inspire 6700 6.1 Surround Speakers
Internet Ready V.92 56Kbps data/fax/voice modem
Network Ready integrated 10/100 Ethernet Adaptor
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
FREE Microsoft Works Suite 2003
FREE Pinnacle Studio 8 SE Video Editing Software
FREE 3 Year On-Site Warranty (UK Mainland only)
Midi Tower Case/6 USBs + Additional Features
I'm tempted to upgrade it to Windows XP Pro. Is there any reason I should? I have to confesss that I don't really know the difference. What does Pro have that Home doesn't?
