I.Q. Scores ?

[P50]

Okay, here are the three or four most important factors involved in determining which number and/or which test you should use.

If you have taken several IQ tests, do <I><B>NOT</B></I> take an average. Give the single highest score that you made.

If you have taken both supervised and self-administered tests, only the supervised tests are game for this survey.

Any test you designed yourself does not count (even if you proved it valid; sorry that's the rules).

Definition of supervised: a second living human observed you taking the test and signed a piece of paper stating that you scored "X" on your own without assistance from other people, looking in books, using computers (including calculators) or anything else; you did it all with your head and hands. This second person has professional certification in your state as either a psychologist or an educator.

<I>ALL internet website IQ tests are <B>INVALID (!)</B></I> I'm sorry; I know that there are a couple that I believe work, but the moment you let those one or two in, on comes the flood of fabulous fakes.

Definition of standardized: everyone takes the exact same test with the exact same questions under similar conditions. If it is a time limited test, everyone stops after X-amout of time. If it is time-open test, everyone finishes before they leave. Nobody gets a second shot at the questions (or puzzles or numbers or whatever). Sorry, no overnight, no three-week, no take-home tests are allowed. It's a one-shot, sit-down, hand-in, walk-away deal.

 

[Novus]

Tested a few years ago

I don't remember what percentile I scored on it. But my intelligence quotient is 128.

 

[P50]

To Look Up Numbers

Try this site to interpolate

http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/IQtable.html

Okay Novus, I'll use you and your numbers as an example for everybody else,,,,

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Look for your IQ score <I>(Novus had 128)</I>

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You'll see the next column has a long drawn out number <I>(For Novus, that would be 96-point-something.)</I>

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Ignore the point-something stuff. <I>(Novus would then have the number <B>96</B> without the zillion appended decimal points)</I>

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If that's on the poll, use that. If that's <B>NOT</B> on the poll, look for the next <I><B>Lower</B></I> number

<I>(Example: In Novus' case, there is no 96, so look for the next lowest number; which in this case is 95) </I>

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You click that number

 

[milagros317]

My score on an IQ test many years ago when in high school was 156. I hadn't known that this was among the top 1/10,000 until looking at the chart on your link. 🙂

 

[U.N.Owen]

Personally, I don't put much trust in "tests" for intelligence. I was compelled to take one in school, though, and scored, to the best of my recollection, 142.

 

[Treena]

Personally, I don't put much trust in "tests" for intelligence. I was compelled to take one in school, though, and scored, to the best of my recollection, 142.

I agree. I took one in college and scored 149, but really means nothing to me. I still have blonde moments LOL 😕

 

[ForgottenTcklr]

For some reason I doubt that this many people could have exceeded the 99th percentile. I mean... come on!!! That's pretty high!

But if you did, more power to ya!

 

[P50]

<B>ForgottenTcklr writes: </B> <I>"...I doubt that this many people could have exceeded the 99th percentile. ..."</I>


I have no trouble whatsoever believing that the membership of the TMF is as highly slanted as the initial results are showing. Okay, I'm a <I>little</I> surprised that they are that high, but not much. I was personally expecting to see the major blob around the 75-to-90th percentile (since that contains percentile 87.5, which was my initial guess). Instead we see the big blob initially forming around percentile 95. (Some would say 99; I won't agree or disagree.)

I know, these are stupdendously over-interpolated insights; okay, okay, all participating statistical experts may destroy my thesis here on the spot. I know it wouldn't hold water.

But do remember...

These are not the only data. There is plenty of evidence present across the rest of the pages on the TMF to provide <I>ample</I> support for these assertions.


<B>ForgottenTcklr writes:</B> <I>But if you did, more power to ya! </I>

If you are harboring the notion that holding a brain in your skull which is on the edge (in terms of IQ) somehow makes the world go better for you, well, let me assure you that that simply is not so.

Scott Adams has made a fortune by simply ridiculing that very farce for the past I-don't-know how many years. It's a comic strip called Dilbert.

I.Q. scores are useful but way <I> way <B> way incomplete.</B></I>

Yes, I want to know how smart someone is, but if that's all I know, I'm keeping my distance, thank you.

 

[dvnc]

Such scores are interesting, but contextually limited. IQ tests generate values based on specific info.

Context?

I scored very high on one, right after having the first of two strokes. Strokes cause brain damage. Hence, I scored well at a time when I was too rattled to DRIVE MY CAR. Had a bad case of CRS (can't remember s***) too. Still scored above 90. Did so on the subsequent testing after the SECOND stroke.

Mind you, the testing a neuropsych doctor does to show what's actually affected by such strokes tests WAY more than an IQ test. While my IQ is still way high, as it's been since I was young, some areas are way lower than is common for my IQ range. There doesn't tend to be a radical dip in scores for such.

There's already research, by Howard Gardner concerning Multiple Intelligences, which focuses on the notion that there are more locations than one from which a mind may excell. Here's a link wit' some info on it:
http://www.aenc.org/KE-Intelligences.html

in there is a link for info on Gardner. My guess is that there's other material online. I've read it on paper, and ain't about to type it all here. 😉

Such a notion points to the reasons why someone may be math smart and interpersonally challenged, musically genius and unable to manage money, etc. It's interesting stuff, when one's attemptin' to measure such things. One measure ain't enough.

It IS interesting, though.

 

[ForgottenTcklr]

Anyone notice how no one who had less than above average score did NOT post here!!!

Funny ain't it!

 

[U.N.Owen]

Anyone notice how no one who had less than above average score did NOT post here!!!

Funny ain't it!

Umm... that's a double negative.

 

[tummyfan2003]

my I.Q. is below 0 degrees😛 😛 😛 😛 lol j/k dunno what my I.Q. is really!

 

[ForgottenTcklr]

The truth is... IQ does NOT measure intelligence. I have never had my IQ measured, and I don't plan to. I don't agree with it. I'll accept
my degrees and diplomas as knowledge. I'll take the converstaion skills and life-skills I have obtained too. By IQ is not real intelligence!

 

[dvnc]

ForgottenTcklr, as you might have noticed in previous postings in this thread, I've had two strokes. These led to substantial testing of my intellect and responses, wherein I've learned, with extreme acuity, that your supposition is incorrect.

Mind you, if one were to presuppose the use of IQ as was in place in the 50s, then yes, THAT usage is now known to be inaccurate, as the current metrics are much closer to accurate, though they're known to require extensive testing to corroborate exact answers. For specifics, please investigate neuropsychology, and the tests associated with identifying stroke damage. Cross-reference this with the previously mentioned studies done by the aforementioned Howard Gardner, concerning Multiple Intelligences, which focuses on the notion that there are more locations than one from which a mind may excell.

When you can explain how I have an IQ in the 170s-180s range in several aspects, but 120 in one, and why that's not only abnormal, but a clear indication of a damaged area of the brain, and how I can still manage to function completely, as a computer engineer, while organizing gatherings, etc., then, by all means, I'd love to hear your opinions.

Until then, I simply KNOW more about this than you do, as I've HAD to learn it, and clearly, you've yet to learn it. If you know a lot about Yeats, however, you'll blow me away. I'm confident you know a lot about something, given previous posts. I figure you must know more than me elsewhere. Here, in aspects neuropsychological, you don't. No biggie, if you don't count that it insults me if I assume you mean for it to. I figure you don't mean such, as you seem a nice sort, so I'll do my best not to feel insulted.

Hey, sorry all, for the heavily serious post. I'm a touch sensitive to this area, and know what others in the lower ranges might be feelin', as I share aspects of such, now. It's complicated, but you'd be surprised at what intense knowledge one can find in a person, in one or more areas, while they're completely outta whack in others. Intellect is a broad spectrum, and the old tests were a narrow subset of said spectrum. Hence the mention of the current review systems. There's more, but it gets boring to many to go deeper...

dvnc

 

[ForgottenTcklr]

All I was saying DVNC,

Is that your intelligence cannot truly be measured by IQ. You have many other aspects that prove you are a smart person. Your speaking ablilities, you abilities to think quick, solve problems, and Hell... manage your life! That shows you are an intelligent individual... not your IQ!!! (My opinion... others are prone to disagree!)

~FT

 

[dvnc]

By a simple, single quotient? Agreed. That's the former method of rating. The one they used when I was a kid.

The common methodology, now, goes into many aspects, and does show, rather clearly, what aspects of the brain are functioning, and how well they function.

The tests also take many hours, and require a written, verbal and interactive test run. Had 'em done fully, twice. Am now WAY past familiar with 'em, and on to annoyed by 'em. I also now know too well what areas of my intellect are strong and what ones need assists.

Strokes do that. They whack a specific area of the brain by deprivin' it of the blood needed to give oxygen. Essentially, you have a suffocated piece of brain. Those areas die, much like they would from excessive drug use, only in a particular area, rather than spread out widely. My intellectual capacity is now hampered in specific fixed areas. Clearly, writing ain't affected.

My intelligence HAS been measured. Yours COULD be measured, too. These days, recent progress allows for very precise measurement. Guys like me, that suffer strokes, usually have damage that'd prevent us from workin'. I had them strokes many years ago. I've worked plenty, since then, as an engineer, team lead and manager of an eng team, across three separate operating systems and three separate hardware configs.

Now, if I'm followin' what I THINK you're statin', WISDOM can't easily be tested. That's very subjective stuff, and regional, too.

Regardless, I dig the conversation here, and am diggin' your further clarifications. Shows well for ya, in my eyes.

yet another $0.02,

dvnc

 

[ForgottenTcklr]

Yeah DVNC,

I think we agree more on this subject than we disagree, despite our debating. Thanks for the convo, and maybe upon gaining more insight on it, I will have more to discuss with you later!

 

[P50]

This poll was inspired by the thread, "<I>Are ticklers smarter than the average person?</I>" found in the <I>Tickling Discussion</I> pages of the TMF.

(The full thread can be found here: http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=20531)

Interesting numbers on the two threads...


Are Ticklers Smarter... 468 views, 25 replies
The I.Q. Scores Poll... 211 views, 15 replies

I'll call it half. (Well, it's in the ballpark.)

DVNC, from reading your recent posts here, I've been trying to guess, and I'll go ahead and ask point blank: Do you believe in the "lower case g" quantity as promulgated by Hernstein and Murray in their work, <I>The Bell Curve</I> ?

If not exactly in line with those two guys, do you believe in a general quantity which is similar to their lower case "g" ?

 

[dvnc]

Do I believe in the "lower case g" quantity as promulgated by Hernstein and Murray in their work, The Bell Curve? If you mean to ask whether or not I agree with it, I don't. I don't find a lot of any value in their book.

Do I believe in a single rating of intellect (the lower case "g")? I don't find such a rating to be remotely accurate. It's like rating a musical wit' the same metrics as a movie, an ad, a painting, a concert, and a debate. Each has an appropriate measure for a reason. Each is different.

Intellect is wider than a single rating will cover. That's why I favor Gardner's work. Having had to get such tests done ANYWAY, I find that theory to cover the realm of ratable intellect fairly well. A neuropsych battery of tests will do it even better. Such takes more than a day, though, and most folk seem want it quicker, whether or not it's accurate.

I'll take the longer, more accurate approach, with multiple ratings.

 

[TravlZeus2002]

Does this count

I took that IQ test that was televised last year on FOX. I got all 60 questions right so I don't really know what my score is. Where do you go to take IQ tests?

 

[dvnc]

I had mine last done by a neuropsychologist after the second stroke I had, back in '99. Had 'em done after the first one, too. Also had 'em administered in grade school before stickin' me in one o' them brainiac school programs. Irritated me that I got "punished" when I got such good scores.

There are also some software programs that administer general IQ tests, and most colleges have some means for this, too.

If you get someone that will test for multiple ratings, versus the simplistic "single-score" concept, good on ya. It's a good deal more useful, as it can also tell you what you have to work around, what's limited for you. We've all got such limitations, somewhere.

G'luck!

dvnc

 

[TickledToDeath]

As far as I can remember.........I took two......quite some time ago.
About a year apart....will have to do it again to see what time and age and a slow leak of sanity😉 😀 🙄 😛 has done.

Both Scores were 136 I believe.....or 138.......

No clue what catagory I fall or fell into.

Really didn't matter. IQ tests are only a surface assessment of ones' intelligence, character and intregrity.


TTD

😎 😉

 

[giantfan121262]

I took a test many moons ago, and I think I scored 132.

 

[Limeoutsider]

Never took an IQ test; didnt believe in them

 

[chrisheaven]

Never took an IQ test; didnt believe in them

me neither