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Celtic_Emperor
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He was found not guilty of all charges.
gilmourwaters
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not guilty.....hide your children...mj's running loose
...and where's r kelly right now??
...and where's r kelly right now??
Celtic_Emperor
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Its like I've said before, theres no ultimate proof that he is innocent either. He may very well have been guilty in the past and innocent now, or vice-versa or guilty in every instance or completely innocent every time. We just don't know. Have we let a pedophile loose?
Just because he's been declared innocent doesn't mean he is though. Innocent or guilty he has to keep a low profile now. If he just goes right back to the way he does things with the children at the ranch then he's obviously learned nothing from this experience or any other and he's doing this to himself.
Theres nothing wrong with loving children, but theres a certain level of how and in what contexts he does what he does with them thats uncooth and irresponsible in minor/adult situations.
My personal opinion? If this were an average non celebrity he would have been found guilty (I don't care what the jury is saying to defend themselves now). I honestly believe that. His celebrity status and the jury feeling the pressure (and perhaps physical threat upon their persons) of zealot fans is something to consider. A jury is never impartial, though the justice system will have us believe that and jurors will swear by it and Jackson fans will surely sing the praises of the system now.
I wanted him to be guilty because I believe he has been. It didn't matter when to me. I did not however want him to be assaulted in prison, just merely serve his time without luxury, which would have been insured as would his safety. I just wanted him to live like that to rethink his life and what he's done with it. Prison time could have been a blessing in disguise, though cosmetically it would have hurt/destroyed him. There is something beneath the surface of that man-boy that is not wholesome, something in his psyche, something that is a danger to susceptible and impressionable children.
He's yet again slipped his neck out of the noose of the lynching rope.
And like I said, he knows how to work the system. He has the experience and people to make the best out of a bad situation. Hate to give the devil his due, so to speak, but thats how I feel.
Michael Jackson is a sick man, but criminally he has dodged so many bullets and each time he does he just seems more and more innocent or more and more guilty depending on which view you take.
Its over though, he's legally innocent and theres not a damn thing anyone can do about it now and the jury is left to defend themselves, excuse themselves and swear they were impartial and try to look dignified and sure of themselves in their decision, totally rightious in their own minds. We'll just have to wait for him to molest another child or wait for someone to milk him again.
Its in his best interests to just fade away. If no jail time, then fade away. Fade away Michael. Just fade away so this never happens to you again.
If its true what they say on your behalf, and you are a God-fearing man or have faith in divine justice or karma then you'll do the right thing and change your lifestyle and pray for forgiveness, lest the guilt burn in you for the rest of your mortal life.
Michael Jackson has the power and means to change his life and seek help and to help heal his fractured family. To not do this is a crime in and of itself. Its self-oppressive, self-abusive, self-destructive and introverted. He has the power to stop these things from happening, and he fails to see that his outlook on life puts these children in these situations and puts him in the judgement chair.
He is a weak man, and I hope he sees the error of his ways some day and has walked away from this changed or with a new mindset.
Just because he's been declared innocent doesn't mean he is though. Innocent or guilty he has to keep a low profile now. If he just goes right back to the way he does things with the children at the ranch then he's obviously learned nothing from this experience or any other and he's doing this to himself.
Theres nothing wrong with loving children, but theres a certain level of how and in what contexts he does what he does with them thats uncooth and irresponsible in minor/adult situations.
My personal opinion? If this were an average non celebrity he would have been found guilty (I don't care what the jury is saying to defend themselves now). I honestly believe that. His celebrity status and the jury feeling the pressure (and perhaps physical threat upon their persons) of zealot fans is something to consider. A jury is never impartial, though the justice system will have us believe that and jurors will swear by it and Jackson fans will surely sing the praises of the system now.
I wanted him to be guilty because I believe he has been. It didn't matter when to me. I did not however want him to be assaulted in prison, just merely serve his time without luxury, which would have been insured as would his safety. I just wanted him to live like that to rethink his life and what he's done with it. Prison time could have been a blessing in disguise, though cosmetically it would have hurt/destroyed him. There is something beneath the surface of that man-boy that is not wholesome, something in his psyche, something that is a danger to susceptible and impressionable children.
He's yet again slipped his neck out of the noose of the lynching rope.
And like I said, he knows how to work the system. He has the experience and people to make the best out of a bad situation. Hate to give the devil his due, so to speak, but thats how I feel.
Michael Jackson is a sick man, but criminally he has dodged so many bullets and each time he does he just seems more and more innocent or more and more guilty depending on which view you take.
Its over though, he's legally innocent and theres not a damn thing anyone can do about it now and the jury is left to defend themselves, excuse themselves and swear they were impartial and try to look dignified and sure of themselves in their decision, totally rightious in their own minds. We'll just have to wait for him to molest another child or wait for someone to milk him again.
Its in his best interests to just fade away. If no jail time, then fade away. Fade away Michael. Just fade away so this never happens to you again.
If its true what they say on your behalf, and you are a God-fearing man or have faith in divine justice or karma then you'll do the right thing and change your lifestyle and pray for forgiveness, lest the guilt burn in you for the rest of your mortal life.
Michael Jackson has the power and means to change his life and seek help and to help heal his fractured family. To not do this is a crime in and of itself. Its self-oppressive, self-abusive, self-destructive and introverted. He has the power to stop these things from happening, and he fails to see that his outlook on life puts these children in these situations and puts him in the judgement chair.
He is a weak man, and I hope he sees the error of his ways some day and has walked away from this changed or with a new mindset.
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XaviarRkR
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I've avoided this. The man is so much a child himself in his personality. He could easily be taken advantage of and used by some to make a quick load of cash through his naivity, but he could also easily seem innocent when not for the same reasons. I'll let ultimate justice deal with this one (what ever that is) coz I wasn't there.
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Ultimately thats what I'm left with thinking too. I think thats what everyone is left with, aside from personal disgust or joy over this, letting the justice system deal with it.
You have to look at the evidence and case itself, not personal feelings. Once again there is not enough evidence. Is this like saying Michael Jackson is untouchable, legally? I think it is. Because will we ever catch him in the act? Never. It will always be the word of a child against that of a grown man no matter how much it's twisted either way.
You have to look at the evidence and case itself, not personal feelings. Once again there is not enough evidence. Is this like saying Michael Jackson is untouchable, legally? I think it is. Because will we ever catch him in the act? Never. It will always be the word of a child against that of a grown man no matter how much it's twisted either way.
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He hasn't been declared innocent by the jury - the wording is very careful about that. All they can say is that "they have have found him to be not guilty". That means that they believe that there is not enough evidence to convict him. It doesn't mean that he didn't do it these time, or that he didn't do it at all, just that they can't prove that he ever did it.
Subtle difference.
Subtle difference.
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Sure, because everyone knows jackson mollested kids, he must be guilty
Oh wait, we all base our info on the vulture tabloid media to know whats true
Oh wait, we all base our info on the vulture tabloid media to know whats true
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Even though I'm non-white, I don't think the original comment was meant that way; the OJ case is simply the highest-profile celebrity acquittal in recent memory (except maybe for Robert Blake fans).PIMP said:
A CBS News report I saw right after the verdict suggested that Jackson was acquitted mainly because the witnesses were not considered credible. However, even if he did not technically violate any laws, his behaviour showed extremely poor judgement and abnormal social skills in dealing with children.
The trial itself was a terrible ordeal for the Jackson family, and it should serve as a cautionary tale that it is best not to take foolish chances when interacting with underage kids. The accusation of "child molester," once it is made, has a way of sticking to people even if they truly did nothing wrong.
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I think Jack Nicholson would have an issue with that, alchemy. 😛
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