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Koalla Su - by sl44n3sh

@ Slannish- I think its time you took some action and gave me credit for the picture of mine that you "emulated". I don't know if you thought you didn't need to do anything about it, but apologizing wasn't enough for me and some of my members. I would like for you to either remove the picture (you know which one I'm refering to) or give me credit for it in the picture discription itself. Scamwich afterall drew one of your pictures and gave you due credit. You should follow suit by doing the same for me.

I don't know if you know this or not, but what you did didn't just anger me, it angered other people who are fans of my work and respect me. If your to totally redeem yourself from this incident, which has by no means gone away, you know what you have to do, Dan. I've waited long enough thinking you'd take the initiative to make good on it, but you've done nothing. I'd like to think we can be friendly about it, and so far I'm not being out of line and nothing I'm asking for is something I don't deserve. I'd never want to use one of your pictures for anything, because quite frankly our styles and more importantly our concepts are too different for me to want to emulate you. But even if I did, I'd give you all the due credit for it.

Until you can find the mere seconds it would take to type the necessary things in the picture discription under the picture, I, and quite a few individuals have a problem with this.

You may not see this as a problem, because you've obviously moved on, and so have I. Its not as if I've stopped drawing (I've been having updates myself) or let what you did effect me so far too a point that I'm disgusted. But the fact of the matter however, is every new member you gain that sees that picture sees a copy of mine, and they will assume to give you all the due credit whether thats directly to you or to themselves. I suppose it is that that makes me pursue this perhaps even more so then your having emulated me in the first place. I'm pretty sure that if this happened to you, you would feel the same way.

Last time, I got both hell and support for bringing this up. So rather then letting myself become angry, I'm going to leave it up to you YET AGAIN, to give me credit for that picture. You've already publicly, here only, admitted to me and told everyone that yes, you did copy it and that you only did so because you were "inspired" or "paying a tribute" or "showing admiration". While thats nice to hear (although I believe some of it was a pretext on your part), and was a load off for me, the job is only half done, and thats why I'm bringing this up now. So that it will clear up everything about the incident once and for all. Some people may think I'm sniviling, but I have every right to make an issue of this until it is resolved because this is artwork we're talking about, not a catch-phrase or something insignificant. The ONLY REASON I didn't send this to you in a PM, is because you could easily ignore it and continue about your business. By posting in public, for everyone to see, it insures you don't ignore it without looking accountable.

@ the mods- Theres no need for mod interferance on this one. So mods, please stay out of it. I'm playing nice this time. Although you may want to moderate and delete the posts of those that would just start an arguement with me or only post to deliver a cheap shot or two. Other than that, I'm fine, and theres no need to correct me.


- Damien

PS: Slannish, this Koalla picture is ok, but I've seen you do better. Keep it up though.
 
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*LoL*
Thats only a picture! A picture seen by.. hmm... 500 people? 600? If it was the Lord of the Rings you've written and wanted credit for it, okay... But thats only a... PIC! Not even colored! Sorry celtic, but this is not a cause of alarm, thats just ridiculous.
TNO
 
I think I'm gonna have to agree with the rest of the posts here so far. Not a big deal.
 
Input

To be perfectly honest, I don't even know what this argument is really about.

It's my understanding that somebody copied somebody else's picture, and isn't giving vredit. If this is the case, then I agree with whoever originally drew it.

Though if there's some controversy about whether or not the picture was actually copied, or who drew it first, pay absolutely no attention to me.🙂
 
Re: Input

Ticklerdes said:
To be perfectly honest, I don't even know what this argument is really about.

It's my understanding that somebody copied somebody else's picture, and isn't giving vredit. If this is the case, then I agree with whoever originally drew it.

Though if there's some controversy about whether or not the picture was actually copied, or who drew it first, pay absolutely no attention to me.🙂



Thats correct. I am the original artist of a picture he copied from me. So you'd be agreeing with me by your words.

And there is absolutely no controversy about it. He copied it, he admitted to it, yet nothing has been done about it to finalize the process of correcting his error. Thats what my post is about. And its not as if what I'm asking for is unreasonable. Simply give me credit in or around the picture, or delete it. I have the right to ask that for that.


EDIT: I won't respond to what anyone else has to say, unless its favorable or will help make this situation better. This is between me and him, and I'd appriciate that it stay that way as far as this side conversation is concerned. Obviously I'm not suggesting people not post about his picture, but I also have this in addition to the picture, and its a problem I alone have to deal with. Which is another reason no one else should comment on it or potentially make it worse. Everything is under control so long as I'm simply ignored in this matter by everyone but him.

I apologize for distracting you all, but I don't apologize for this. Theres nothing to apologize about.


- Damien
 
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>This is between me and him, and I'd appriciate that it stay that way as far as this side conversation is concerned.

So if you do not want to read what anyone else has to say about it, why the hell do you post this stuff in an open forum - instead of just sending sl44n3sh a private message?

just my 2 cents.

shock
 
@ shock- I believe I already explained that. Past experience has afforded him to opportunity to either manipulate what I said in a messege or ignore it alltogether.

@ sl44n3sh- I'm refering to you and thats pretty obvious. I get tired of having to add the 4s and the 3, because it trips me up and its a strange SN to begin with. So I just call you slannish or Dan (being that Dan is your name).

In either case, please resolve this issue as soon as you can.
 
Nevermind, I see you must have did it earlier today before I logged on.

Well, THANK YOU! It wasn't that hard, now was it? Now I can drop it and not give this incident another thought.

However, you might want to change what you said. It comes off as a bit rude or sarcastic. You could simply say "original concept by Damien", and that would be enough for me. What you said really isn't necessary, nor is it true. I don't think I own the pose and I certainly don't own the characters. I never once said or thought that. My beef is that you copied me almost exactly. So "original concept by Damien" will be just fine, please. Please don't be spiteful about it, as that will only make this problem escalate further.


- Damien
 
haha....i have that same exact pic of that cat...how wierd. what a small world
 
ticktort: Exactly the SAME picture? Uh oh... I think you have to give credit to The_New_One then... I think "original concept by The_New_One" would be just fine. 🙂

s.
 
I'm in a very good mood right now, so your smartassed post has no effect on me. 🙂

For you or the others to say anything more here in regards to what has happened, and not the picture he posted (which you could easily respond to in the same thread in the other forum which I'll have nothing to do with), would only go to show your intent in this thread. Its very transparent. 🙂

I however, have one last excuse to be here before I'll willingly leave. And that is his way of giving me credit, which isn't credit at all and only an accusation because he's bitter that this isn't going away. Well, thats something he'll have to live down no matter how he personally feels about this. He should have thought about this being a possibility before he decided to copy me.

And another thing, for those that would downplay this I say- the quality of the picture, whether its colored or not, or the number of people that have viewed the picture is irrelavent. It could be the ugliest thing on Earth, or have only 1 viewing, and that still would not change the fact that it hurt me however much or however little. Its easy for people that having nothing to do with me to say as they do and will. Their free from any effect this event has caused. They cannot value something that isn't theirs. So I understand your positions in this matter, and it is you who haven't considered what mine is or what I'm thinking. I'm sure that if you knew or could sympathize, that you would. But I don't expect you to, as you have currently more to gain from poking at me then to support me. I understand how it works. 🙂

And the only reason this thread isn't filled with supporters of me getting due credit for the picture in question, is because in some cases, I've told and asked them not to, so as to not create a ruckus even though going in I knew the nature of some people and that they would mean to make this difficult for me in any way possible. This thread, and this side topic is very much still under control, and I see no reason to stop until I get what I want and what is due to me. He's making it harder then it has to be by doing what he has done. Had he done as I asked many times before, this whole back and forth conversation would not even be happening. If this thread or rather this turn of events displeases you in some way, you have him to thank for that. If you are also displeased for any other reason, you don't have to be here, and your free to look about other threads to post in. No one has you or anyone else on a leash.

Yup, I'm in a good mood today. Have a nice day/night shock. 🙂 (And I do really mean that, I'm not saying it for any other reason.)


- Damien
 
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Back to the artwork

Well, seeing as how this controversy seems to be nearing it's end, I just thought I'd comment again.

I'm really liking this artwork, lol. Awesome stuff.
 
shock said:
ticktort: Exactly the SAME picture? Uh oh... I think you have to give credit to The_New_One then... I think "original concept by The_New_One" would be just fine. 🙂

s.


😀 lol

check this!
 
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Uhh...

Uh...yeah, that's what I meant. Eheh..heh...

I mean, look at it! How could anyone not love it?!
 
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