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Kujman NOT a thief, thanks for the misinformation

Yankeefan

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This is not an attack on those such as Talons who attacked Mr. kujman. It's simply a well investigated response. I won't waste a lot of time but I believe that some truth should be mixed in here if this post doesn't get deleted.

First off, I think it's so grand that people attack another major contributor behind his back. I doubt one of you has contacted him in person, nor asked him to speak here on this matter. It says a lot for your characters.

Some of your have claimed so many ridiculous things that I'm ashamed almost to associate with you in this community and those that would blindly follow your words. You have offered nothing but "your" biased and nasty opinons, and others take them for fact. They are indeed lies. I'll only go into to two of them to show others how wrong you are.

I myself received his newsletter, it was not called Tickling Digest at all. I got it for four years, though he only charged a one time fee. Who else offers that? I would be happy to copy all my issues and post them here to prove you wrong if I gain permission to do so from the moderators. I also know personally dozens who also got it who would post here. He also produced the first letter for ladies only called "Fem Feathers" for the lesbian community and they were also very happy. It's funny that looking back through many old news posts on the old AMT with the help of Bob Hare that I came across the same attacks made by you on kujman when you wanted attention in the past. Your claims are false and perhaps you just wanted more copies.

Another thing I'll mention is the so-called rip off you claim of tapes. How is it that so many others recieved emails about when the tape would be delivered, but you didn't? How is it that so many know he was hurt during 911, a fact now confirmed by lists and many who looked into it and are RELIABLE people such as Ellah- except you? This understandably slowed down all progression the Tickle Palace. And if you take the time to read it very clearly spells out the rules: the first issues of tapes will NOT be released until a certain amount of orders are reached up front. This in order to stop the tapes from being copied and pirated.

All of this goes to prove you wrong- and one final fact. Four of us received our tapes on Friday and all excitedly called each other. This a week before the date given. So where's the rip off?

As to these so-called "nasty beating of feet" and other lies- everyone has their own tastes and this includes "victims" and masochists. I doubt very much anyone would sign a consent form to release a video had they been treated the way you imagine- nor would he be asked back year after year to repeat such a thing.

Just because others are jealous doesn't make their accusations behind other's back right. Start using your minds people.
 
Everyone is entitled to an opinion

All I can say is that you only learn from your experiences.

You subscribed to his newsletter and had no issues.

You ordered a tape from him, and you got it around they time he promised.

You understand and like all the work he does and feel comfortable with it.

Well, then it is obvious you have no personal issues with him and that you think he is a great person.

Other people have had different experiences with him and have a different view of his personality.

From my personal experience, I can say that he did not come out as an easy person to deal with online. Granted the impersonal environment of text conversations leaves a lot margin for misconceptions and misunderstandings. However, he is a very direct and harsh person in his comments and a lot of people felt directly insulted, me included.

When I asked him directly for an explanation, he always wrote back with his opinions. So, at least he never hid behind an invisible wall.

However, I feel he thought his point of view was always the right one due to his history and reputation. He left very little room for discussion and a lot of people pissed or uncomfortable.

I am more of the opinion that every person has something good and bad to contribute. The fact that a person has been around for 30 years doing tickling work does not mean he/she is the only person who knows about tickling.

As a Libra (and we go back to the astrological signs 🙂), I love to play God and Devil in many discussions just for the pleasure to participate in a discussion. You may have seen my comments regarding creation of clips by RT (or the lack thereof, for that matter). They may have seemed a little harsh or as an attack to RT, but at least I tried to be respectful. I never meant to insult Kathy's work or anything like that. I was just providing a counter argument to see where it led. At the end, I believe that every company does their best to maintain a business and it is their prerogative to do any kind of advertising they feel would be effective. (Kathy I love your work and all the time and effort you apply to make us happy…)

The events that led to Kujman’s dismissal as a moderator were one of the better examples of the way he likes to handle topics he thinks we are not mature enough to handle. Maybe we are not, but that’s not his decision to make for all of us.

I think there is a lot of room for personal growth within the virtual walls of this forum and I think the moderators are doing a great job making sure everyone feels like a part of that growth. Some times things get out of hand, but with the help of the moderators we come out of those situations feeling like better people.

I think that Kujman is a great tickling executioner who has provided a lot of good things to the tickling community. However, I do not think he is a good “mentor”. You can find geniuses that know a lot about a topic, but they are not good professors. There is nothing wrong with that, they are good at what they do, but they cannot teach others what they know easily.

He was always invited to remain around and to participate in the forum, just not as a Moderator. However, apparently, he decided not to do that and has disappeared. I understand his feelings are hurt, but I do consider him as a good counter balance to many discussions in the forum and would welcome his comments back to spice things up a little.

Take care,

Knight Tickler
 
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Yankee

To assume that none of the people contacted kujman, and then insult them, only shows your immaturity. I had a few problems with the man, and I challenged his opinions and he did not reply.....So you see, I cannot speak for others, but I never talked behind his back.....so before you go around pointing the finger at people, use your mind.....hell, YOU probably are kujman.....and doing this sort of thing will only make you lose more respect. -Think before you post. :sowrong:
 
Holy Heap of Misinformation

YankeeFan warns us of mis-information, but perhaps it is he who is the mis-informer. If memory serves me correctly it was Talons who SUPPORTED Kujman. Talons even reccomended Kuj for a Pioneer award.
Also, I thought Myriads had barred us from speaking of the 9/11 incedent relating to Kuj.
I must agree with Krokus that the Yankee's post seems a bit suspiscious. It is his first post ever. There was nothing on this great Forum that motivated him to post before this? The Kuj-Bashing post went out of circulation weeks ago. Why did it take the Yankee so long to respond?
 
Suspicious

I did think that this post was very odd and out of the blue. I guess his intentions are still not clear. Perhaps we will know what he really wants some time soon. 🙂

Bye,

Knight Tickler
 
PLEASE!!!!

I was hoping this thread would have been closed or removed by now. Do we HAVE to keep harping on this?

Jen
 
Apparently...

Yup...we do if people keep posting on it...dems da rules! Hi jen, btw! Q
 
Hi to you too, Master Q.

I should be online more now that I have started my new job. I get home earlier and am not nearly as tired. Strange, considering I have to be up at the crack of dawn now. LOL

Jen
 
Hands up who thinks Yankeefan and Kujman are one and the same person ?
 
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To this point you've all found new aspects to argue about. And fairly politely. So It's gotten to stay.

But....

The contents of this removed post were covered in an old thread in spades. Leo, you made your point then, and rehashing it again here is not constructive, and will not be tolerated. You told your side and it was left standing as a general warning post. But that one is what you get.. Since this is a personal issue between you and another member of the forum, I suggest you follow up on it via personal communication, or failing solving it with words, legal methods OFF FORUM. Here is not the place for it once you made it known the first time.

In that thread a few months back I said to any members who had posted in it, that any of them reopening up the topics of that thread again would get zapped. Zapped = you loose access to this particular sub-forum. Try me. Last warning.

Myriads
 
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Thanks Wallstreet, I was wondering if anyone was going to remember that I was actually sticking up for Kuj. This guy is obviously misinformed. I am not the most well liked guy on the site because of my "off the beaten path" opinions, but I have never ripped anyone on this site intentionaly. Furthermore, I have contacted Kuj and found him to be very cooperative, on most occasions. As of late, my recent inquiries about the tape that I paid for and never received have fallen on deaf ears. Seems that Kuj stopped replying right about the same time he left the TMF, go figure. Anyhow, I kind of resent what this guy is saying, but on the other hand I could care less about him and his opinion. Afterall, he is entitled to it!!😀
 
To those who remove my post! I did not mean any harm! I have email him, he said it was coming and than weeks later iam still waiting!!!
I will say no more on this matter, you have my word! But 50.00 maybe not alot of money to you, but to me it is!!!
 
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