'Lees: Do you prefer the tickler to NOT be ticklish? (or does it even matter...)

[The Internet]

I have this thing.....it's called a tickle fetish.

Oh wait, we're past that now, sorry.

I have this thing....I don't want the tickler to ever be tickled! I'm like...oh no, that's so wrong! (lol)

I know, it's stupid, but we don't pick these proclivities.

i worked so hard, when i was a kid, to become immune, because I wanted to be the one to do the tickling. When I was really little, I tickled a pretty 20-something girl, who was a friend of my mom's. She took something from me so I just leaned in, grabbed her sides and went for it. In that moment, she was so caught off guard, and I had gotten the right spot....for those moments, giggling and trying to get away, she looked at me with this flirty look....suddenly for that moment, I wasn't a kid anymore, she was looking at me like I was a man...a man who was tickling her. 🙂

So, that just set me on the path. And, being a kid, where grownups will do that, I was like...get away from me. Ha! I got over it pretty early! And it's almost a waste, I think because I had weird experiences, when I was in the hospital in my late teens, once when a nurse told me I was so cute, she wanted to just tie me down and tickle me....that's what she said! Couldn't believe it. Another girl told me I looked ticklish, but when she tried....she found out I wasn't.....and so I said "my turn!" and proceeded to give her a tickling I'm sure she remembers to this very day. Eh, Kristina? 😉

I remember seeing a dating profile, somewhere, on like a Match.com or something.....and some girl wrote that her dream man "would never ever admit to being even slightly ticklish". So that caught my eye.

Hence.....this thread.

I personally love that I can tickle a girl and not have to deal with any defense (other than flailing limbs, and biting, hahaha), I can just concentrate, sit back and plan strategy as she copes with what I'm doing to her.

Of course, there are lots of "switches" here so....I know this isn't going to be everyone's preference....or maybe even anyone's! But hey...just asking!

 

[Sensualswitch10]

I guess as a Switch, that technically makes me part lee, right? But as a Switch, I would HATE that with a passion usually reserved for really terrible things! Like having wet socks because I stepped in spilled beer.

The revenge tickle is one of the most satisfying things in the world IMH. To not have that be physically possible would be beyond frustrating.

And how can someone who isn't ticklish at all really appreciate the exquisite mix of agony and pleasure that they're inflicting having never experienced it first hand???

To each his own, but I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my lers even more ticklish than I am!
Great topic Leo, as usual!

 

[milagros317]

My preference is to be tickle-tortured by a strong woman who is NOT at all ticklish herself. That way, she can tickle me, with no mercy whatsoever, and never worry about me taking revenge on her because she is as ticklish as a tree.

 

[The Internet]

Interesting!

Two opposing views! Yeah, Milagros, that's the mindset I tend to have as a 'ler, and then it's just a fascination on her reactions and almost an attitude of..."THAT gets you, huh? Silly girl. Awwww". Ha!

So....follow up question, for a switch....does that mean the first person who is the 'lee gets it easier because the 'ler is probably going easier on them, knowing they're next? Or that doesn't enter into their mind at all?

 

[Wade]

It seems like a preponderance of the people who have tickled me habitually have tended to be not ticklish at all, which does add a delicious level of helplessness to the situation -- they absolutely have the upper hand over you and you have no way of effectively fighting back or retaliating. It also adds other colors to the experience -- a sense of mocking superiority on the tickler's part, because I'm burdened by a weakness that they don't have; an increased degree of mercilessness, because they literally have no idea how it feels to be tickled or how intolerable a sensation it can be, so they're inclined to tickle me past the point that someone with more empathetic experience might -- they figure "he's laughing, after all, so how bad could this really be?"

On the flip side, ticklers who are ticklish often fall into a couple of different camps: those who, because they know how it feels to be tickled, are more compassionate and merciful (that's the category my wife and her sister are in); and those who, because they know how it feels to be tickled, can unleash their inner sadist and relish the knowledge of just how helpless and susceptible they're making me (I had a college girlfriend who was this all over).

 

[tickledgirls]

I dunno why but I feel like being ticklish as a tickler makes you a more effective tickler. You know the spots, you know what works, you can draw upon your own recollections and data and use that against your ticklee. It makes it better because you also know what the ticklee is going through which I think is important. I have heard of instances where the tickler wasn't ticklish, didn't understand tickling and thought the person was enjoying it, despite their pleading, and it ruined the experiences as a result. So i think it is really important and actually an advantage.

 

[kevin_kidnapped]

^^^^^ This ^^^^^

 

[The Internet]

I dunno why but I feel like being ticklish as a tickler makes you a more effective tickler. You know the spots, you know what works, you can draw upon your own recollections and data and use that against your ticklee. It makes it better because you also know what the ticklee is going through which I think is important. I have heard of instances where the tickler wasn't ticklish, didn't understand tickling and thought the person was enjoying it, despite their pleading, and it ruined the experiences as a result. So i think it is really important and actually an advantage.

Poppycock and tummyrot!

First, virtually every tickler has been ticklish at some point in their lives, even if they aren't now. Those memories never go away. Second, I agree, there are some inept ticklers out there. But I'm sure we've ALL seen videos of girls who are great ticklees, and then when it comes time to tickle, they are completely incompetent! They rub, they don't tickle. So I'm not sure that argument holds any water. In fact...I know it doesn't!

If you're a sensualist (which all great ticklers are), and you relish exploring a girl's (or guy's) body, to see what makes them tick, and you ENJOY finding reactions...and then new reactions....not to mention having imagination, strategy and experience...and probably a million other qualities I can't think of.....I don't think the 'lee is going to be giggling any less, sorry, that has not been my experience at all. Never had to fumble around, looking for a spot, I usually have success on first touch so.....

"that drummer has great feel", you'll hear that said amongst musicians....."that guitarist has a great touch"....for me, it's the same exact part of the brain, being VERY attentive to every nuance of the ticklee...and playing them like an instrument. Ahhhh, it's the greatest, isn't it?! 🙂

 

[Sensualswitch10]

So....follow up question, for a switch....does that mean the first person who is the 'lee gets it easier because the 'ler is probably going easier on them, knowing they're next? Or that doesn't enter into their mind at all?

I'd say quite the opposite! If I was ler-ing first I'd really give it to her good because once I was on the receiving end I'd want to know that I "left everything on the field" to use a sports cliché.

I think the difference in opinion between Milagros and myself stems from the fact that there is a wide spectrum of switches. Probably not many switches are a true 50/50 lee/ler. Myself, I'm probably 60-70 percent ler and 30-40 percent lee. I remember seeing Mils post once that he's 90 percent lee, so the revenge tickle is a LOT more important to me.

 

[a7hgsir4h3jk]

Either way is fine I guess, but if I really want to tickle the other person I'd prefer them to be ticklish.

 

[Wade]

The other thing that occurred to me about this question was that ticklish ticklers and non-ticklish ticklers, I've found, often tickle for different reasons or toward different goals. Often (though not always), when I've been attacked by someone who's ticklish, it's been because she wants something from me -- an apology, information, a concession, a favor, something. Which makes sense, because she knows only too well how irresistibly persuasive tickle-torture is; she knows, from her own personal experience, that if she keeps tickling just long enough, I will surrender to her conditions -- because she knows if she were in the same position she would have to do the exact same thing.

But people who aren't ticklish seem to be more likely to inflict prolonged ticklings just for the entertainment factor, or to punish me for some transgression. They don't really know what it's like to be tickled, so they don't create a situation where I can make it stop by capitulating to their demands -- they only know that it's a hilarious spectacle, and/or that it's an effective way to make me suffer, secure in the knowledge that I have no comparable way to retaliate.

Probably related: I've also tended to suffer longer ticklings from people who aren't ticklish than from people who are.

 

[SadCuzNotTcklsh]

The other thing that occurred to me about this question was that ticklish ticklers and non-ticklish ticklers, I've found, often tickle for different reasons or toward different goals. Often (though not always), when I've been attacked by someone who's ticklish, it's been because she wants something from me -- an apology, information, a concession, a favor, something. Which makes sense, because she knows only too well how irresistibly persuasive tickle-torture is; she knows, from her own personal experience, that if she keeps tickling just long enough, I will surrender to her conditions -- because she knows if she were in the same position she would have to do the exact same thing.

But people who aren't ticklish seem to be more likely to inflict prolonged ticklings just for the entertainment factor, or to punish me for some transgression. They don't really know what it's like to be tickled, so they don't create a situation where I can make it stop by capitulating to their demands -- they only know that it's a hilarious spectacle, and/or that it's an effective way to make me suffer, secure in the knowledge that I have no comparable way to retaliate.

Probably related: I've also tended to suffer longer ticklings from people who aren't ticklish than from people who are.

I like the way you think my man!

 

[EmbraceSerenity]

doesnt bother me but what I don't like is a ler that isn't ticklish and won't stop tickling you, even when you seem uncomfortable, due to it hurting, jabbing too much or making you uneasy as these kinds of lers misconstrue your reactions as just ticklish reactions.

 

[Ticklishz]

As a switch and someone who especially likes revenge scenarios I much prefer a ticklish ler. Especially if I just tickled them to hysterics and they are about to get revenge.

 

[jujimbo]

I'm not that ticklish, but I remember having been ticklish as a child. I know what it feels like. This very fact I see as an advantage. Doesn't make me less of a sadist though. A great reaction just leaves me wanting more and more.

 

[Rt72]

So true..

 

[TickVix]

Heyyyyy everyone... Been a while I know lol, but to answer the question at hand... I don't mind the ler being ticklish. Gives me something to work with in the event I want to retaliate lol. In general though, whether ticklish or not it doesn't matter all that much to me. I'm all about enjoying eve session at hand.

 

[Sensualswitch10]

My preference is to be tickle-tortured by a strong woman who is NOT at all ticklish herself. That way, she can tickle me, with no mercy whatsoever, and never worry about me taking revenge on her because she is as ticklish as a tree.

Apparently you haven't seen this my friend!

https://youtu.be/vm_xnmf56AM

Lol

 

[shad0w]

As a ler' I would certainly prefer to not be ticklish. Just for that defeated look when an attack fails in retaliation. I got both lucky and unlucky in that. I'm not very ticklish overall, except in very specific spots. However those places are brutal when hit, almost as if they're making up for all the surface area that isn't affected.

But they're all fairly easy to defend. So it's a mix bag.

 

[teamtickleguy]

I find there are attractive qualities in both scenarios - although mostly a ler, I do enjoy being a lee and if I knew that my ler was not ticklish, I would feel completely owned and completely submissive, which adds to the excitement a bit and I am more than happy to play the completely helpless victim.
The other aspect is the incredible situation where someone who is not ticklish, actually turns out to have a ticklish spot that you find. That challenge would always be at the back of my mind when being tickled by a non-ticklish ler....although it's a real moment-killer when actually they really aren't ticklish at all.... so sometimes it's best just to take their word for it and be owned.

However, with such a passion for tickling others, if I know that my lee is indeed very ticklish, this is attractive to me for two reasons:
1) I find it all the more exciting that someone who's really ticklish has taken the risk of tickling me in the full knowledge that I'll probably get them back.. it shows that their desire to tickle is strong enough for them to neglect/expose their own ticklish weakness and actually hints at a potential desire to be tickled back... and
2) obviously knowing the lee is ticklish means the whole time I'm getting tickled I have that thought at the back of my mind that I'll sure as hell be tickling back... and this is very attractive because then the whole experience really does become a shared one in all possible ways.

Cheers
TTG

 

[Haptic]

As a lee my dream ler is a little bit ticklish - less so than me but enough that we can have playful tickle fights (with no danger of me winning haha). What's more important to me though is whether they like it or not. I've been with guys that are crazy ticklish but hate it, in which case obviously I don't want to tickle them but it also makes them not much fun as ticklers because they're understandably reluctant to do something to me that they associate with pain or discomfort. So, attitude to tickling is much more important to me than actual ticklishness.

 

[crydun]

I prefer a switch like myself but that's just me.

 

[Star_Boy]

I'm technically a switch but I lean towards my lee side.

Personally, I would hate if my ler wasn't ticklish!

 

[The_Darkweb]

I'm technically a switch but I lean towards my lee side.

Personally, I would hate if my ler wasn't ticklish!

I'm with you there, at least half way. I prefer a ticklish play partner so things can go back & forth, but I am also very good and teasing with my tongue, so if she wasn't ticklish tease & denial would be my reveng of choice bahahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahaha... okay I'll stop.

D.W.

PS
If she not ticklish then she doesn't get to tease me cause it's all about balance.

 

[brotherted]

I believe part of the tickling kink is domination over the 'lee whom you force to spasm and jerk without their ability to control their reactions. Successfully tickling the 'ler contradicts that.