Looks like Barry Bonds might get whats coming finally

[duck171]

Just read an article that said that barry bonds is in a lot of trouble. He is being charged with ninteen counts of perjury and also a count of obstruction of justice. This is refering to the hearing on steroid use a while back. Just thought it was an interesting note for those of us sports fans.

 

[ohstalon06]

You know people should get off Barry's back about the steroids, while I can't speak to him lying in front of a jury, we need to remember that if indeed he was taking steriods when he broke McGwire's record in 01 it was in a period where there were no rules about steroids. Same goes for McGwire himself and Sosa from back in 98.

If you want to start pointing fingers at all the shit baseball's been through the last few years, start at the top!

Bud Selig and Donald Fehr (MLB commisioner and MLBPA[players association] president) both dragged their feet on this topic related to leagues like the NFL, NBA, or NHL until the media got a hold of this and beat it into the ground to make them do something. Only then the league did something when congress got involved. And it also has to be noted that this isn't like Rafael Palmeiro who got busted with the new policy, Bonds never tested positive under the new situation.

Not only that, I tend to think, 'You know maybe Greg Anderson [Bonds' former personal trainer] wasn't all that honest when he gave him that stuff' Think about it, if he keeps him on as a trainer when he got those huge deals from the Giants, how much of a cut would he have gotten?

All I'm saying is you can hate him for allegedly breaking the law or being a jackass, but don't cry to me that he tainted the game, the higher ups tainted it themselves by dragging their feet in this thing.

 

[duck171]

All that may be true, but none of this would have happened if every one abided by the rules. (McGwire, Sosa...) When you know something is illegal you know not to do it. Thats why we have laws. Also, Im pretty sure that Barry knew what he was doing. I myself work out and train and some of my friends at the gym have taken anabolic steroids. Its hard to not notice the effect. Before they shot up, they were benching lets say 250lbs, after just one week they were benching 280 to 300lbs. Steroids make a huge diff in ones performance. I dont have anything against Barry, I just wish he and a few others wouldnt have tainted one of our favorite sports.

 

[ohstalon06]

All that may be true, but none of this would have happened if every one abided by the rules. (McGwire, Sosa...)

That's exactly what my point was man. THERE WERE NO RULES TO THIS BEFORE 2003, and the current policy wasn't in until 2006. Instead of protecting the so-called 'integrity of the game' Selig, Fehr and other owners/higher ups in basebally just wanted to line their own pockets.

And while some steroids are illegal, there are steroids out there that have to be used for those recovering from surgery amongst other things.

I don't believe Barry tainted the sport, the sport had already been tainted beyond belief, especially for generations prior (Black Sox scandal in 1919?) And besides, if it's about the HR record, he won't hold it for too much longer if A-Rod keeps up at his pace right now. I don't think any record is tainted, because as I said there were no rules or regulation about this stuff until a few years ago. If Barry had tested positive under the new policy, I would say he tainted the game. And you can't take records away because of steroid use in 98 or 01 because there were no rules, it's like the NCAA taking away wins and accomplishments about 10 years after the fact like what they did with Michigan basketball from the 'Fab Five' years. It's all academic, we've seen the events, we can't just take an eraser to them.

Like here's an example. George Mason's final four run in 2006, what if it was discovered like in 2012 that some of the players recieved improper benefits from boosters? And this led to the NCAA basically erasing the 06 season and it's accomplishments from the books. Myself and plenty others would remember that they beat Michigan State, UNC, and UConn; myself and others would remember the controversy about letting them in the tournament to begin with. Myself and others will remember how we became everyones favorite team if only for a week with the media talking about us everyday. Myself and others would remember seeing them play on the biggest stage of college basketball and playing strong for a half before the eventual champs took over. You can't act like these events never happened if you erase them from record books. People will remember.


Sides, the real baseball story today is A-Rod basically giving a big middle finger to Scott Boras in going back and resigning an extension with the Yankees.

 

[duck171]

Yeah, A rod is def the story. Wonder what is feels like to be offered 240 million?

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

the hollywood brother thinks that if the bonds man broke the law then he needs punishment. however with that being said the hollywood brother realizes that he is a good baseball player and might be up for hall of fame consideration someday

 

[Cbarton]

One also needs to remember that anabolic steroids are a Schedule III Controlled Substance, at the same level as Vicodin and Tylenol #3. It requires a prescription from a licensed physician. I have now idea if a doc had ever written a legit Rxn for him, but if he was using them to benefit his performance, he may have been in violation of state and federal drug laws. So, even if the MLB had no rules concerning their use, steroids are very heavily regulated regardless of the sport.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

in general the hollywood brother would like to see the governmnet man go after the doctors and drug pushers. the hollywood brother feels that when doctors are pushing pounds and kilos of steriods for no legit reason, then they are as bad as corner boys selling crack and herion on street corners

 

[ohstalon06]

That I agree with HB, and as I said previously I'm not gonna defend his legal troubles, but I think he's just the Highest guy on the pedastal, and they are ignoring everyone else.