Mainstream info - Toulouse-Lautrec one of us.

[paszkowt]

I ran into this info in Saturday supplement to our biggest newspaper "Gazeta Wyborcza" (Election Journal) called "Wysokie Obcasy" (High Heels) from 20th April 2002. The article was about a Polish noblewoman called Maria (Misia) Godebska, who was a friend and model for many French artists of XIX/XX century. One of her closest friends was Toulouse-Lautrec. It's written that they have a favourite game: "I was sitting in the garden under the tree, reading a good book. Lautrec was sqatting beside me and, armed with a paintbrush, was tickling the soles of my feet. This play, with him using fingers in the right moments as well, could last for hours. I felt I was in heaven and he claimed he painted fantastic landscapes on my soles."
This info was in the article "Misia" by Malgorzata Czynska

 

[BigJim]

Now that is interesting! Proves that "we" have been around for centuries too, doesn't it?

 

[qjakal]

Centuries...

Indeed, we have always been around, I would imagine! Or at least once there were useful digits for tickling on the evolutionary table! There were quite a few incidents during the Inquisiton and at Salem that look like the work of at least a few of the brethren as well! Q

 

[CitY of MicA]

I knew he was

Just kidding. Interesting info, ansuz!

 

[BigJim]

Re: Centuries...

Indeed, we have always been around, I would imagine! Or at least once there were useful digits for tickling on the evolutionary table! There were quite a few incidents during the Inquisiton and at Salem that look like the work of at least a few of the brethren as well! Q

Interesting thought Q, I had heard as much myself but then I read a Kujman artical that said it wasn't true. Give me some juicy details mate and keep me up all night thinking about it will you?

 

[U.N.Owen]

Re: Centuries...

There were quite a few incidents during the Inquisiton and at Salem that look like the work of at least a few of the brethren as well! Q

There were NO TICKLING INCIDENTS at Salem. Not one. Nada. Never. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. All those executed were hanged, and one was pressed to death under stones for refusing to enter a plea. All judicial proceedings were in court. Apart from the pressing, no torture was used. NO TICKLING.

And there is NO reliable record of tickling in the inquisition either. They had far more effective methods of destroying people without playing around with something like tickling. I mean, fantasies aside, people, if you really wanted to break someone, would you tickle them when you had a rack, pincers, irons, brands, etc.? Be realistic.

THIS REALLY AND TRULY IS A MYTH, WITHOUT A SHRED OF DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE.

Say what you will about him, on this point Kujman is 100% right.



Sorry to blow my stack, I have no beef with Qjakal or anyone else -- but you hear these things one too many times...

Cool about Toulouse-Lautrec though.

 

[Dave2112]

However, it is known that Catherine the Great enjoyed tickling as a form of torment or perhaps simply self-serving satisfaction.

 

[Ayla ny]

all of those dancing girls kicking their feet in the air... it all makes sense now! very cool. 🙂

 

[qjakal]

Calm down, mates!

I certainly didn't say they were tickled to death...I was referring to the stocks/pillories and written descriptions of people having "fun" with prisoners and such. BTW, I believe they drowned a few also, if we're looking for historical accuracy...first I've ever heard about "sole landscapes" also, but it may indeed be true, and if not, it still is a helluva fine image, so i'll leave it alone and let it be...lol. Q

Why does everyone assume you're speaking of witches ONLY when Salem is mentioned...sigh...there MAY have been a few other people punished as well...sheesh.

 

[U.N.Owen]

Historical accuracy

No, they did not drown anyone at Salem. Water "tests" were sometimes used on the European continent in witch cases and sometimes resulted in death by drowning, but this was not done in the British colonies. As I said, all the convicted "witches" were hanged at Salem, and Giles Cory, who refused to recognize the court and enter a plea, was pressed to death. Stocks and pillories were not used there, either. They were for relatively minor offences, which witchcraft wasn't.

I don't aim to lecture, but facts are facts.

Yes, it is quite possible that people in stocks elsewhere were tickled -- over the many centuries stocks were used as public punishment, it MUST have happened sometimes. But remember, the vast majority of those put in stocks were men.🙁

The Catherine the Great stories do, I believe, have some documentary basis, though the "true story" from the "English ambassador" that is floating around on the web is fiction: there was no ambassador of that name. There are also records of tickling in China, I believe.

 

[tactillianlover]

I sit...drunk with anticipation'...slowly I undress her foot...
a knotted lace- I do not lose a beat- my teeth slay ze' Gordi'on!
The dusky husk torn from ...viola! Ze dew covered butterfly toes!
Ze timeless beauty of soles! LET ZE TICKLING BEGIN!!!!!!

Ooo la la - la lalalalala!!!

 

[Featherdfingers]

This play, with him using fingers in the right moments as well, could last for hours. I felt I was in heaven and he claimed he painted fantastic landscapes on my soles."

It makes perfect sense to me that Lautrec (sp?), who himself was underheight (to speak politically correct), would develop a fascination, maybe even a fetish, with a woman's lower body and feet. What is most surprising here, at least to me, is the fact that Godebska was so outspoken about her love of being tickled. Voluntarily equating foot-tickling with heaven is not something most celebrities dare do these days (unless it's Nicole Kidman) in fear of being mocked, ostracized, or perhaps worst, coming off as "unprofessional." Then again, this is France we're talking about...

 

[BigJim]

It makes perfect sense to me that Lautrec (sp?), who himself was underheight (to speak politically correct), would develop a fascination, maybe even a fetish, with a woman's lower body and feet. What is most surprising here, at least to me, is the fact that Godebska was so outspoken about her love of being tickled. Voluntarily equating foot-tickling with heaven is not something most celebrities dare do these days (unless it's Nicole Kidman) in fear of being mocked, ostracized, or perhaps worst, coming off as "unprofessional." Then again, this is France we're talking about...

Nicole Kidman like to have her feet tickled? First I've heard of it. Where did you learn about that mate?

 

[paszkowt]

She spoke freely...

She spoke freely because she already was a scandalist and a friend to scandalists, so why care? Think about "Moulin Rouge" film ... maybe it's not very realistic, but some of the atmpsphere is shown ... In her society it wasn't a "fetish" or "weird behaviour", pretty much everything was allowed and "worse" things were quite common.