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I wish to restart this discussion, as I actually have some evidence this time around. It was deleted in the Great Server Malfunction (the original topic), though it wasn't my post.
The original discussion was about the possible mistreatment of models in the tickling industry, which ended with me making a call to models and or producers to have a say in what actually goes down. I say what actually goes down, because the audience (us) for tickle clips doesn't get to meet the model, per say, nor are we there for the potential interview, and frequently we are, if the producer is damned good, not made aware of any breaks.
Someone had brought up a few specific clips where it seemed a girl was not given breaks, was genunely ticklish and did not know what she was getting into, and was pushed way past her acceptable limits as to the material.
I don't know if this stuff happens or not. I want to say that I hope not, but I know how evil the hearts of men (read: people) are.
However, I would like to bring these small bits of evidence I've gathered over the past few hours forward:
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2147328&posted=1#post2147328
This link referenced a few blogs by some models, which can be found here:
http://ivyandhaley.blogspot.com/2009/04/tickle-torture.html
http://ivyandhaley.blogspot.com/2009/05/dominatrix-with-hairbrush.html
A link to an older post where some feedback is heard from a model by the nick name of Poison. Seemed positive. There is a second shoot with her, which I will also post as a source, since she returned:
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=41630
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=48603&highlight=poison
As an aside, it seems many tickle-abuse models return, though that may be part of an all day shoot broken up into short 5 minute segments. This cannot be said about the old real tickling clip store, but the models do return in several of their much older VHS videos. The tickle challenge clips can also make an interesting point as, even in previews, we hear discussions between the assumed producer and model as he explains what is going on, though this can also lead or mislead the audience to think that they were not told anything prior to the shoot. Another company, Tickle-post, seems to frequently speak to the model after the shoot, and from all the clips (about 8) that i have, when this does happen it (the experience) is a positive one. Laughter is beautiful also speaks with their models, though this is much lighter tickling, who all seem to give positive feedback as well. We can assume that their models are given short breaks, as the positions of the camera/lee change throughout the clips.
But yeah, most of the evidence I have isn't very great, and I still think direct response from models or producers would be great.
Anyway.
Etc.
The original discussion was about the possible mistreatment of models in the tickling industry, which ended with me making a call to models and or producers to have a say in what actually goes down. I say what actually goes down, because the audience (us) for tickle clips doesn't get to meet the model, per say, nor are we there for the potential interview, and frequently we are, if the producer is damned good, not made aware of any breaks.
Someone had brought up a few specific clips where it seemed a girl was not given breaks, was genunely ticklish and did not know what she was getting into, and was pushed way past her acceptable limits as to the material.
I don't know if this stuff happens or not. I want to say that I hope not, but I know how evil the hearts of men (read: people) are.
However, I would like to bring these small bits of evidence I've gathered over the past few hours forward:
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?p=2147328&posted=1#post2147328
This link referenced a few blogs by some models, which can be found here:
http://ivyandhaley.blogspot.com/2009/04/tickle-torture.html
http://ivyandhaley.blogspot.com/2009/05/dominatrix-with-hairbrush.html
A link to an older post where some feedback is heard from a model by the nick name of Poison. Seemed positive. There is a second shoot with her, which I will also post as a source, since she returned:
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=41630
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=48603&highlight=poison
As an aside, it seems many tickle-abuse models return, though that may be part of an all day shoot broken up into short 5 minute segments. This cannot be said about the old real tickling clip store, but the models do return in several of their much older VHS videos. The tickle challenge clips can also make an interesting point as, even in previews, we hear discussions between the assumed producer and model as he explains what is going on, though this can also lead or mislead the audience to think that they were not told anything prior to the shoot. Another company, Tickle-post, seems to frequently speak to the model after the shoot, and from all the clips (about 8) that i have, when this does happen it (the experience) is a positive one. Laughter is beautiful also speaks with their models, though this is much lighter tickling, who all seem to give positive feedback as well. We can assume that their models are given short breaks, as the positions of the camera/lee change throughout the clips.
But yeah, most of the evidence I have isn't very great, and I still think direct response from models or producers would be great.
Anyway.
Etc.