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Narnia

blackmagicjack1

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Don't know how many of you are C.S. Lewis fans, but I just got back from the movie and it was great. They did a good job of following the story and the fantasy critters looked awesome.
 
The movie was awsome! We went ot it yeasterday afternoon. The kids read the entire 7 book set this summer/fall. If you see no other movie this winter, SEE THIS ONE!

I loved how it stayed amazing close to the actual story, and didn;t add much 'filler"
 
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Just saw the film myself this afternoon. I haven't read any of the novels, so had no expectations to either please or disappoint. That said, I found it reasonably pleasing... didn't fall in love with it, didn't hate it either. I did think it a bit draggy at the start: all those repetitive trips through the armoire could easily have been collapsed into a single event for cinematic economy. And the fantasy action pales beside Peter Jackson's (the new standard for such material), a deficit exacerbated when director Adamson is forced to interpret several almost identical situations. But the production is bright and colorful in its own more modest way: the scene design is credible (if unadventurous), the acting is rather good, the story sound, and I must admit that I daubed my eyes once or twice. And, as you say, it contains a rather startling bestiary! I've never seen centaurs done so well before! All in all, I have no problem hoisting my thumb in its behalf!
 
goodieluver said:
i havent seen it yet, how was mr tumnus represented?


Pretty good. He had less hair (esp upper body) than I expected, but was portrayed rather well.
 
Narnia is currently my must see film this Christmas, but I'm going to wait until the Christmas rush dies down before I see it.

I haven't read any of the books (although I saw a stage version waaay back in my childhood), but you don't really need to have read the books to enjoy the film, do you?
 
didnt read the novels either, but might see it today. How was the acting? (younger actors intend to sometimes act a little displeasing)🙂
 
Hungarian2 said:
How was the acting? (younger actors intend to sometimes act a little displeasing)🙂
The acting, on the whole, is good enough, though not Oscar-calliber by any means. The kids are a bit hesitant in their line reading (not up to the "Harry Potter" standard)... all but the youngest girl, who is quite charming and expert, and receives a good portion of the solo focus. None of the acting is poor enough to spoil the show, though.
 
Killerk said:
Narnia is currently my must see film this Christmas, but I'm going to wait until the Christmas rush dies down before I see it.

I haven't read any of the books (although I saw a stage version waaay back in my childhood), but you don't really need to have read the books to enjoy the film, do you?


As i have learned from all movies, if u read the book before, it sort of ruins the movie because the movie doesnt do the book justice.
 
I would normally agree with you, but I read Eaters of the Dead way before seeing the 13th Warrior, and I loved that movie. They don't follow the book exactly, but they do a very good job of the film being it's own while following the context of the original story. Though if they had followed the book more, there would have been more sex, alas.
 
its hard to make a good movie out of a book. We'll just keep on hoping. 🙂
 
I saw it Saturday night, and I thought it was pretty good. Like someone else said, it was no Lord of the Rings... But, to be fair, The Lord of the Rings wasn't based on a children's book.


blackmagicjack said:
I would normally agree with you, but I read Eaters of the Dead way before seeing the 13th Warrior, and I loved that movie. They don't follow the book exactly, but they do a very good job of the film being it's own while following the context of the original story. Though if they had followed the book more, there would have been more sex, alas.


I loved that movie too! Even after reading the book! Dammit, now I may just have to go and break out my DVD...
 
Bought the DVD (least said about THAT the better...), and from what I remember of when I read all the novels in primary school, the film was spot on right the way through, with the exception I think of the scene where the Pevensies are crossing the river beneath the waterfall, which I think was added to the film for dramatic purposes.

I shall be attempting to return my DVD tomorrow, as large portions of the end half of the film - ironically, the most important scenes (at the Stone Table and Cair Paravel) seem to have been rather indiscriminately (and poorly) edited....
 
goodieluver said:
As i have learned from all movies, if u read the book before, it sort of ruins the movie because the movie doesnt do the book justice.

This is one case that, IMHO, that the movie does do the book justice. The special affects on Tumnus, Aslan, the centaurs, etc. Were very beleivable. The girl who plays Lucy was excellent and the best of the 4 kids, I felt. The only negative I felt (and a very minor one) was I felt the WHite Witch was protrayed in more of a cruel sense. I always looked on her character as showing more evil than cruelty. It may seem like splitting hairs, but just the opinion of myself and MDJ.

I feel if you have read the book you can very definately enjoy this movie. The battle scene, while no LOTR (from what I've been told, having never seen the trilogy), was very well done and concepted.
 
How do you definte the difference between evil and cruel, Ky? I thought she got the part spot on.
 
koopacooper said:
How do you definte the difference between evil and cruel, Ky? I thought she got the part spot on.

Well what I think he might mean is that instead of seeming just purely evil, it felt a little more like she just acted cruel and without mercy. I'm not sure.

I just saw it tonight and I thought it followed the book nicely and was quite good.
 
Yes, Kunoke, that is what I meant. I always interpreted her as purely evil, not just cruel/merciless.

But, Koopa, my opinion on that is splitting hairs at best. Just a very slight flaw in what I feel is a great film.
 
Well she is evil, but I personally think that evil manifests in her cruelty. Also keep in mind, despite the material, that the Narnia books are children's books and written to a point from the perspective of children. If a person was trying to tell children what was evil, they might start with cruelty, selfishness, and vanity. I liked the actress for the White Witch, I thought she was spot on! Swear of I seen her before.
 
Is there any tickling or some pantyhosed-/nyloned-feet of the girls
to be seen in the film ?

The pantyhosed soles of one of girls will be
a perfect target for evil torturers, I bet ! ;o)

I know there are not many modern films who
contain tickling, so I hope for some nice scenes
in new movies.

Too bad, Hermine never received a tickling spell
on her pretty feet in each Harry-Potter-Episodes.

Any hints for tickling- or stockinged-/nyloned-feet
of female actors in modern films ? (2000-2005)

Thanks for any hints.

Regards,

Kevin.
 
kevin75da said:
Is there any tickling or some pantyhosed-/nyloned-feet of the girls
to be seen in the film ?

The pantyhosed soles of one of girls will be
a perfect target for evil torturers, I bet ! ;o)

I know there are not many modern films who
contain tickling, so I hope for some nice scenes
in new movies.

Too bad, Hermine never received a tickling spell
on her pretty feet in each Harry-Potter-Episodes.

Any hints for tickling- or stockinged-/nyloned-feet
of female actors in modern films ? (2000-2005)

Thanks for any hints.

Regards,

Kevin.

No tickling. Remember, these are young kids...Susan maybe being 12ish and Lucy being very young (8ish or so). Also, the Chronicles of Narnia were written by C.S. Lewis as an allegory of CHrist and Christianity (Aslan repsresenting Christ). Not exactly set for tickling material, since through all 7 books, the main characters are children.

However, get a copy of VeggieTales' tape or DVD of Esther: The Girl Who Became Queen. Instead of being excuted, criminals are set to the Island of Perpetual Tickling. No shots of the Island, but when the Peoni Brothers are caught, a grim reaper character with a long white feather appears....
 
blackmagicjack said:
I would normally agree with you, but I read Eaters of the Dead way before seeing the 13th Warrior, and I loved that movie. They don't follow the book exactly, but they do a very good job of the film being it's own while following the context of the original story. Though if they had followed the book more, there would have been more sex, alas.


I was actually dissapointed with 13th warrior, and i did as well read the book before the movie.

More time goes by, which helps explain better how Ibn had learned the northman language and just the overall interaction with Bullwyf and Ibn.....Plus the book way more violent...lol
 
Ok, I got in this discussion with my brother-in-law. it may have not been presented well in the movie, but that trip to the Northern coast of Russia took longer than a few nights. I thought it was implied well in the film, but I guess not by other people's standards. The film was pretty violent..no the only two things really left out of the film from the book was the sex and slaves..and the dwarves...so make that three.
 
I've had the books since I was a kid, so I've had the time to digest the meanings of the books and take good points of view as to the accuracy of the movie in relation to the novels.

I'm quite pleased with the movie. Considering whom it's original audiance was meant to be, even as an adult I was taken back to that time where this was magical and enchanting.

To be honest, I almost cried when the pact was made between the Witch and Aslan because it was so (for me at least) symbolically the same as Jesus accepting his fate in the garden and then the sacrifice at calvary (stone table) with the mocking, the knashing of teeth, the insults, etc. The sorrowful look on his face while everyone cheered as the witch left to prepare her troops, thinking it would be alright, was pretty hard to see. But this was of course immediately turned around by Aslan's "rise from the dead". I would have liked a little more time spent basking in the awesomeness of such a thing, but I was willing to let it slide, considering everything else. I also was tense for the actual battle, which I feel, for a PG rated movie, was pretty good and delivered in the ways it needed to.

The emotion was there, and that is what was important really. It made me feel the same way I felt when Vader fights his son in Return of the Jedi and the Anakin redeems himself. Edmund does the same, and it's moments like that this helps you appriciate the characters more.

Obviously this entire series, has Christian values and symbolism within it. I was particularly concerned if this would be well transfered to a general audiance in what has become a secular world (ie the movie wouldn't have to be so editted to a point where theres no spiritual undertone to it at all). I felt the religious undertones were subtle enough for people to both get the moral messege without the movie having been preachy or discriminate.

These are , afterall, themes and nuances that anyone can accept and appriciate if they so choose. I'm sure alot of folks worried that this would be seen as a "cleverly disguised christian movie", and I'm happy that it was ambiguous and universal enough to send a messege to people whose hearts could use some more love, and it was deep enough for the religious that they could appriciate and love the piece on that extra level that others might not even be aware of or care about.

I think this movie (and the ones that will hopefully follow it) has the potential to appease both general movie goers, and ones who found the works of Mr. Lewis wonderful because of the moral values placed within them.

I am one of those folks who can honestly say I didn't read these books as a child knowing that they had these spiritual undertones. It wasn't until I was a bit older than I realized what was going on, and who was being portrayed as who. What a joy then, being a Christian myself, to find a fantasy adventure story which held deeper sentiments I believe in. 🙂

The transition from book to movie was well done, it was worth my time and money, and I will buy the dvd and add it to my collection proudly. 🙂
 
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