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Need Help With Superman Returns Idea

FeatherJedi

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i'm trying to think up a tickling story based upon the new film Superman Returns, seeing as how Lex Luthor captures Lois Lane and all. Now I haven't seen the film just yet, i'm going to try to this weekend, but i have just finished reading the novelization, and from that, i've hit a snag:

"why should Lex Luthor have Lois tickled?"

the problem is i can't seem to have Luthor interrogate her, because as it turns out, Luthor catches Lois and her little boy snooping, simply TELLS her his plans, then tries to do away with them. Now how can i make a tickle story out of this without changing the course of the film's story?

Oh, and no ideas about Lex Luthor trying to fulfill a sexual desire or anything like that. I'm not like that.
 
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Well, how about making it part of an elaborate brainwashing scheme? Perhaps in an attempt to have her forget what she saw and/or heard.

And when the tortuous tickling fails to do the job, THEN he can go all evil genius and have the minions dispose of her.
 
*blink blink* ...how...how does tickling brainwash or make sumone forget??
 
Well, judging by the trailer i've seen....Luthor would probably do that just because he's a mean guy! He seems almost 'Dr Evil'ish.

(Never read many Superman comics, so I don't know if he acts that way in the original sources)
 
well, Lex Luthor is different with every interpretation. in the comics he originated as sort of mad scientist, building robots and such, causing mass destruction, etc. Prior to "Superman: The Movie", Luthor had always been pretty 2-dimensional, a typical comic book villain at the time.

The Gene Hackman portrayal in the earlier Superman films gave Luthor a bit more character, and made him witty and a bit comical, with an air of "nobody's cleverer than me, i'm the greatest criminal mind of all time". That Luthor also wasn't bent on "world conquest", but on real estate, very expensive real estate. His goal in all the films (minus Superman III, which he isn't in, and Superman IV, where he has a different agenda: revenge) usually delt with him trying to get expensive land for himself: Superman I, buy up all the desert land in California, launch a nuclear missle at the San Andreas Fault, thus destroying the west coast and by effect make his desert land the only land worth living on; Superman II, help the 3 Kryptonian villains obtain Superman in exchange for possesion of Australia; Superman Returns, use stolen Kryptonian technology to create a new continent that he would own.

After the Crisis On Infinite Earths in the mid 80s, the Superman series, as well as sum others, i think, was revised and revamped. In other words, started over. Lex Luthor was now a more cunning, more sinister mad scientist. However, this Luthor didn't last long. After crafting a kryptonite ring to wear in order to keep Superman away, radiation from the ring eventually gave him cancer. had to amputate his own hand. in order to survive, he faked his own death in a plane crash, then had scientists take his brain and create a clone body around it. through this clone body, he pretended to be his own son, australian-born Lex Luthor II, and to the public, pretended to be a very good and generous businessman as a cover-up for his dastardly deeds.

the Lex Luthor II idea was played upon in Superman: The Animated Series. Here, Luthor is a very sucessful businessman, the richest and most powerful (next to Superman, and different sense of the word) man in Metropolis, very calm and refined. He's like Metropolis's architect, he's built half the city or so. To the public, he's a great man, but he sercretly does bad things like creating weapons for enemy countries or, of course, trying to kill Superman. the only people who don't trust Luthor are Superman, who knows how bad he is but has no way of proving it, and Lois, who thinks he's scum (in the 2nd ep, it's meantioned Lois and Lex used to date). Later, in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, Luthor evolved into a greater threat by joining with other villains and creating much more trouble than he ever caused in Superman: The Animated Series.

In Superman Returns, Luthor's now played by Kevin Spacy, but since the move is more or less a "sequel" to Superman I and II, it's the same Luthor as Gene Hackman's Luthor. However, Spacy has said that he did his best not to look upon Hackman's portrayal in order to not repeat it and do his own portrayal on the character. Judging by trailers and the novel i read, it seems to me this Luthor is a lot darker than Hackman's, but still with amounts of quirky wit, such as here:

LUTHOR: go ahead, lemme hear you say it, just once
LOIS: you're insane
LUTHOR: no! *laughs* not that, no, the other thing *leans ear in*
LOIS: Superman will never--
LUTHOR: WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but at the same time as there being comicalness, there seems to be a great deal of darkness in the portrayal, because, and i hope i'm not giving too much away here, in the novel i read, Luthor actually finds a way to personally beat the living snot out of Superman, and even come VERY close to KILLING him!

hope that helped u understand
 
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I just saw the movie last night and have to say Spacey's luthor was definitely one of the main points - largely because (and not trying to be negativ here) Brandon Routh simply can't do superman/kent like christopher reeve. Or that's my humble opinion anyway. And i'd agree with you EmSee, he's a lot darker, and seems almost deranged at times, i thought.

I have a reason for luthor to tickle lois, but i don't want to say it because it's a bit of a spoiler and should wait a couple days. Besides when you see the movie you'll probably realise it too - it's when they're on the yacht and luthor asks her a question about something while holding the kryptonite...i don't think thast gave anything away.

Oh, and another high point was a sole shot and close up foot shots of kate bosworth when she goes flying with superman. Excellent!
 
how bout u private message me details on your idea. i've read the novel, so you wouldn't be spoiling anythign 4 me

and yea, i know all about the foot shot from the trailer, that's awesome

i'm actually surprised about what i'm hearing about Brandon Routh's performance. I mean, Richard Donner said he was perfect, Dana Reeve said he was perfect before she died; do audiences really think that they know better than these people??
 
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Haha, yeah, iprobably didn't phrase myself well enough. I thought Routh was good, like he definitely was up to the job and did it well, but i just thought reeve was about as close to perfect as made no difference, like he really acted two performances in the movies and sometimes three with that whole "evil superman" thing...yeah, i know, i'm a nerd. i haven't seen the fourth one though.
And for some reason i'm not allowed to private message you, something about not having enough privileges.
 
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