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New York is in Pandemonium!!!!

Cheshire Cat

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BLACK OUT!!! All of Manhattan is dead in the water! I just recently got power back (out on Long Island, we got back power pretty quickly, after maybe an hour.) I was just on the phone with my GF and she heard that the ENTIRE EASTERN SEABOARD is out....

Their saying right now on the news that it may have been a "cascading blackout" that originated in NY........suprise surprise....they already started looting!!

....hope my dad gets back okay...hes out there right now...
 
My thoughts go out to you guys. Hang in there!!! As always my best wishes to getting things back in order

Pawz
 
Yeah. We were lucky here. We're just outside of Hartford. There are nearly 200,000 people in the state without power. We lost for a few seconds followed by a brownout for about ten minutes. (We thought it was aftereffects of our outage yesterday from the storms that came through.) So, far, that's been it for us. But, it knocked out traffic signals throughout the state. So, they're recommending that folks stay put for now. Many others in the state are out...mainly along the shoreline.

My parents are in upstate NY and are without power. They're being asked to get home (which they are), stay put and conserve water. That's pretty much what everyone is being told in all of the effected areas.

We've been monitoring the news since it started. Contrary to the inevitable rumors, the Office of Homeland Security says that there is no evidence that this is terrorist related. The FBI and others are still investigating. But, it appears to be a natural occurance. There was a major power grid failure in either the central relay of the Niagara Region (near Buffalo) or another relay in Canada. For some reason, it cascaded down through other areas. Some are on automatic shutdown to avoid getting knocked out of commission. So, that was part of the problem.

For those who've heard about smoke coming from power plants... Yes. There was smoke. The officials stated that this is due to the normal protocol for a major outage. The plants vent everything in the system to prevent a fire. Sometimes, the heat even produces flames for a bit. So, it's perfectly normal and not a problem.

For those who are along the NY, NJ, CT line for the trains... Because power is out, the rail lines are out. Trains are sitting in the middle of things whereever they happened to be when the power died. They're in the process of sending out deisel engines to tow the trains in to the the nearest stations. So, if you know someone on a train, while they'll be late getting to a station, they will get there. They may not be able to get ahold of you since cell service is largely out.

For anyone heading into NYC, DON'T! All incoming traffic is being turned away. The bridges are open to outgoing traffic only to allow those who live outside the city to head home as best they can.

They are getting service restored in some areas. But, they're taking it slow to avoid overloading the system and causing more problems.

Another issue is the water supply in many areas, including Cleveland, shich is also out. Conserving water is a major need since the pumps run on electricity. They are recommending that people turn off all appliances until the system is fully restored to avoid a surge when they get things back up.

I'll write more as I hear it. Anyone out there who can reach those who are effected, tell them to hang in there. They're hoping to have things back up in a matter of a few hours. Some areas are already back on.

Ann
 
Please please please be safe, those of you out there in the dark right now...

And know that we're thinking of you out west where there's still electricity (and three hours of daylight left)
 
But then again...

...I don't imagine you're reading this post just now, are ya? 🙄
 
Re: But then again...

AffectionateDan said:
...I don't imagine you're reading this post just now, are ya? 🙄

this girl is!!! 😀 just got power back about 5 minutes ago.

I’m lucky enough to live outside of the city. so my biggest trauma was not knowing if I would have an alarm clock to wake me up in the morning and charging my cell phone. it‘s ridiculous how dependant we have become. my only other phone is cordless.

anyhow... this New Yorker survived the nation’s biggest power outage just fine and is wishing the best to the rest.

ps it was HOT and people do NOT treat a downed stoplight like a 4-way stop.
 
My power was out for less than 10 minutes, I saw on Yahoo news that it started in Ohio
 
Maybe it was Ohio? Canada? Who Knows?

The largest power blackout in American history prompted new calls Friday for overhauling the nation's electricity system even as investigators searched for clues to what might have triggered power outages from New England to Michigan. There were indications the blackout may have been triggered not in upstate New York or Canada, as many have speculated, but somewhere along Lake Erie in Ohio, according to the industry-sponsored group that monitors the transmission system. "That's where the information is starting to point," Ellen Vancko, a spokeswoman for the North American Electric Reliability Council, said in an interview. "It looks like that's where the collapse started." Vancko said it would take time to pinpoint the cause. But Michehl Gent, the NERC president, said he was fairly confident terrorism wasn't involved. "We don't have any indication of blown-up equipment," he said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "So, we're almost certain it's not terrorism of any kind."
New York Gov. George Pataki said the cascading problem should have been isolated by safeguards in the system. "That just did not happen," he said on NBC's "Today" show. A member of the federal agency that regulates transmission lines said the resumption of power also was being hampered because the "transmission system — our (power) highway — is so weak and so fragile." "It's very clear this is not about deregulation. It's about investing in the transmission system," said Nora Brownell, a member of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (news - web sites). Some critics of increased competition in the electricity industry said it has caused utilities to concentrate on markets and ignore investing in the transmission grid. Brownell said it was still unclear what happened. Was it lightning or fire? Born in America or Canada? It depends on who's talking. The early confusion underscored the bedeviling complexity woven into the North American electricity network in recent decades, the boom in cross-border power trading, and the interdependence of the many parts and partners multiplied by energy deregulation.
The blackout already has spawned talk of overhauling the national electrical grid which many characterized as antiquated and raised new questions about whether deregulation of the power industry might have played a part in Thursday's disruptions. Like a river's tributaries, their contributions spill into immense regional power grids, where they become anonymous and untraceable. Managers at dozens of control sites monitor intricate crosscurrents of supply and demand, watching over their delicate balance. single failure can reverberate through the system and set off a catastrophic chain reaction like Thursday's, even with the relatively moderate summer heat and humidity of that day.


Investigators eager to find the cause were focusing on transmission lines and transformers in upstate New York and neighboring Canada, scouting for traces of the surge that tripped circuit-breaking protective devices to shut down the system.





President Bush (news - web sites) promised a review of "why the cascade was so significant, why it was able to ripple so significantly throughout our system."

"We're the world's greatest superpower, but we have a Third World electricity grid," said former Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, now governor of New Mexico.

Most accounts of what went wrong late Thursday afternoon agreed on only a few points. Federal and local officials, including Bush, saw no apparent sign of terrorism. There was a bubble of speculation about whether computer hackers might be responsible, but no real evidence so far.

Beyond that, some power network partners — generators, distributors, monitors, governments — dropped early theories blaming one thing or another, but nearly always somewhere else. In truth, no one was initially sure what set off the outages and why they spread so fast and far — across much of the American Northeast, Midwest and southern Canada.

In Canada, the office of Prime Minister Jean Chretien pointed across the border in some early stabs at a cause. It blamed a purported lightning strike, and later a fire, at a power plant in upstate New York. Canada's defense minister, John McCallum, gave another version, blaming a fire at a nuclear plant in Pennsylvania.

Officials on the American side threw back blunt denials and suggested the trouble started to the north. An Associated Press reporter in Niagara, N.Y., reported that the plant there was up and running.

"There's not even a trash can fire. We would know," added Maria Smith, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency.

Some American officials, including a spokeswoman for New York Gov. George Pataki, shifted scrutiny to a possible problem in transmission lines between New York and Canada — probably on the northern side, they said.

Canada's defense minister later inched away from some of the first Canadian explanations — but still blamed the Americans for the problem.

Such confusion between energy partners has sometimes been blamed for the outages themselves in the past, including a nine-state Western blackout in 1996 laid partly to weak coordination.

While answers are scant for the moment, investigators of the latest blackout will probably abound. Federal and state agencies, and Congress, are expected to jump in. They will ultimately want to figure out why safety measures failed to shield more grids from the collapse and, of course, who to blame.












 
Nothing terribly dramatic to report here, I'm afraid. I was already home when the blackout hit, and I had water, food, candles, and such, so it's not like I had a lot of trouble. Thank Goddess I wasn't on the subway or in the elevator. We finally got the power back on around 8 AM today. Hope other NY-area folks got through this easily.
 
Hi Gang, back from the dark!! LOL. Really not so bad here in Southern CT, could have been a whole lot worse (well at least for me, not for the poor folks stuck in the city). We lost power while I was at work around 4:30pm. I took me 1 hour to travel a usual 15 min trip down the highway after work ended at 5pm. My husband who usually has a 1/2 trip took 2 hours to get home. My sis who works in NYC managed to get one of the last buses out going her way and made it home after about 2 hours. So my family was all home in the respective houses safe and sound and I was with my kids which was the most important thing. I have lived through the NYC blackout in the mid 60's and the one in the late 70's as I grew up in the Bronx. I am amazed at how most of the tri-state region people handled themselves this time around, most with compasion and care towards each other in a very trying and hot day. I love NYC and always will, I am a NY Gal at heart. But I do have to say that I am not sorry I do not commute there on a daily basis like I did several years ago before my kids, I would hate to have been stuck there not been able to get home to my little ones.

All is well...
JPie
 
I'm hope that all affected by the huge blackout will have power on soon. This problem could have been prevented if the politcians would force the power companies to make long delayed upgrades. One of the reasons the power companies won't rush to make upgrades to the power grids, THEY CAN'T FIND A PROFIT IN IT.
 
As the Blackout grinds EVERYTHING to a Stop;

...Just remember; THIS is what the Men, Women & Children of IRAQ have been dealing with since APRIL. Can you imagine how we look to them at this time..."they can dish it out but they can't take it."
So as we are attempting to restore a bit of the 21st Century to Our OWN slice of the Planet, let's not Forget that there are ALSO OTHER MATTERS to Clean up as well.
We owe it to our sense of justice as well as to the innocent victims.
BUG:sowrong:
 
not so much

Originally posted by Cheshire Cat (most deleted)
suprise surprise....they already started looting!!

Three days later, with all services restored, I can now say that there was very little looting. Very much less than in the 1977 blackout.
 
Re: ....New York in Pandemonium....

Biscuit said:
and this is news?

😉

NYC is a wonderful place, where I grew up and I still love it. Milagros is right, there was very very little looting and problems during this blackout. I saw many more stories about comraderie and strangers helping each other. My hats off to all New Yorkers and tri-state regioners who work there for the way they handle themselves this time. It makes me proud to call myself a native New Yorker!
 
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