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Oh yeah let's bomb the moon!

PurpleStyle

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So tomorrow at 6:30 AM (central), NASA is going to impact the moon with a "centaur", which is an upper stage space launch vehicle. It won't carry any payload, but will impact with a mass of 5,081 lbs (traveling at twice the speed of a bullet). So the media painting it as "bombing" the moon is incorrect. NASA plans to study the debris plume the rocket kicks up, in the hopes of finding water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCROSS

I seriously doubt anybody standing on Earth will be able to see it, unless they have a really powerful telescope. I have a marginally powerful telescope. :lol In the event that I CAN see anything (highly unlikely), I will try to snap a picture or two through my lens. I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm sure NASA will have some amazing photographs, however.
 
"This morning's unprecedented solar eclipse is no cause for alarm!"
 
The way the media's been talking about the LCROSS mission is seriously annoying me, too. But I heard that a 10" diameter telescope should be adequate to see the impact. 🙂
 
It's a good thing I rarely watch thr news, rather read the Wall Street Journal and The Daily Prophet
 
"This is Igglorph, Grand Inquisitor of the Moon. We consider your ruthless, unprovoked attack upon our world as an act of war!"
 
I think there's a way to watch this online. Well, that's what my friend said earlier.
 
i hardly think this will have lots of effect , the moon has already have craters from other meteors or stuff that flown against , it's just where creating one ourselfs.

Dough an odd idea to actually target the moon.

Who knows me might even wake up an ancient sleeping evil, or it transforms into a giant mechazoid oooh fun times ahead XD
 
What is the purpose of this? To find water? Why? Are there little moonies up there that NASA has been keeping a secret from us? hmm
 
What is the purpose of this? To find water? Why? Are there little moonies up there that NASA has been keeping a secret from us? hmm

Yes, NASA plans to analyse the particles that were kicked up by the impact for evidence of frozen water.
 
This little article i found on the web made me laugh at its insanity.
!Caution! This post is meant for fun, and does not reflect my views, or does it..........:lol

A Realistic Plan for World Peace
a.k.a
Nuke the Moon

(Originally written August 15th, 2002)

“Gotta nuke something.”
-20th century philosopher Nelson Muntz

World peace cannot be achieved by sitting around on our duffs singing hippy songs to the moon. Peace can only be achieved through excessive acts of seemingly mindless violence. Who do bullies pick on in the playground? The giant, crazy looking guy who looks ready to snap and kill the person nearest or some harmless looking weenie who appears to do anything to avoid conflict? People pick on the weenie because people like to start fights they think they can win. In the same way, people will continue to attack America and our interests when they get the idea that they can piss off America without us immediately eradicating them and everyone around them in the most painful way possible.

Now, if I were president, here’s what I would do. Next time some country does something we don’t take a pining too, such as supporting terrorism or speaking French, I’d pick the dumbest reason for an attack, e.g., “A ‘q’ should always be followed by a ‘u’. I don’t make the rules, Iraq, but I will enforce them.” The more irrational you look, the more scared the country will be that you will really hit them hard. I’d then give the country the old one-week notice until bombing starts. Then, after just twenty-four hours, I’d start bombing. When the stupid dictator calls to complain, I’d say, “I meant one week max. Oh, and by the way, ground troops - one week.” I’m sure that would be enough to capitulate the average evildoer, but some extra measures could help intimidate others as well. Like, instead of just saturation bombing a city, super-saturation bomb it. After annihilating everything until nothing but ash is left, I’d nuke the ashes. It’s that extra bit of extremely disproportionate use of force that makes other countries start to wonder if America “has it all together” and really worrying who we’ll lash out against next.

Of course, Europe will start complaining, and Europe’s bad mouthing of America gives comfort to our enemies. I mean, those guys values are so messed up they think calling someone a “cowboy” is an insult. Best idea would be to assassinate the leader of the first European country we hear a peep out of. This will probably make us look evil, though, when we want the image of crazy and violent. So, when the Europeans ask why, I’d claim to never have heard of the person: “I didn’t even know France had a leader. Sure it wasn’t suicide? Yeah, committing suicide with a sniper rifle would be hard, but not impossible if you had a five-hundred yard length of string to work the trigger.” Assassination does seem a little extreme, but we’re talking about Europe. I mean, what are they going to do other than quickly capitulate under a mild threat of force. We’ll probably start seeing, “We all love America!” parades in bids to not be our next targets.

Now the world will be pretty convinced that America is frick’n nuts and just looking for a fight, but we need to really ingrain it into everyone’s conscious so that no one will ever even contemplate crossing us. This requires making good use of our nukes. I know, nukes can kill millions of people, but they sure aren’t doing anyone any good just sitting around. I mean, how many years has it been since we last dropped a bomb on someone? No one even thinks we’ll actually use one now. Of course, using nukes shouldn’t be done haphazardly; all uses have to be well planned out because the explosions are so cool looking that we’ll want to give the press plenty of notice so they can get pictures of the mushroom cloud from all sorts of different angles. But what to nuke? Well, usually the idea is populated cities, but, by the beliefs of my morally superior religion, killing is wrong. So why can’t we be more creative than nuking people. My idea is to nuke the moon; just say we thought we saw moon people or something. There is no one actually there to kill (unless we time it poorly) and everyone in the world could see the results. And all the other countries would exclaim, “Holy @$#%! They are nuking the moon! America has gone insane! I better go eat at McDonald’s before they think I don’t like them.”

But why stop there. We’ve got like tons of national parks; we surely wouldn’t miss just one if we nuked it. Our excuse will be that we heard a drug dealer was hiding there. Then the foreign nations would be like, “Sacre bleu! These Americans are nuking themselves! Surely they will think nothing of bombing us! Let’s adapt their vapid culture as our own so they might consider us one of them.”

Now all other countries will be completely freaked out and never even dream of messing with us. They’ll say the name of America with hushed whispers and always praise us in public for fear of reprisal. We’d be like an Old Testament god to them; perhaps they would even start worshiping us - actually, we should make that a condition of favored trade status. Not only will we have ensured peace for ourselves, but we can also now easily end any conflict between other countries. We see two nations warring over some territory, all we’ll have to do is say, “Hey, break it up,” and they’ll be racing to concede to each other rather than get on the bad side of the “crazy, homicidal Americans.” And, if people are being oppressed by an evil government, all we’ll have to do is say, “Hey you! Stop being communist!” and the next day they’ll have elections, capitalism, and free-press to keep from having their country turned into a parking lot. It will be that easy to motivate our fellow man, because there is hardly anything people treasure more than not being annihilated.

Now all that’s needed to keep peace is to come up with new and creative ways of looking insane and belligerent without actually harming anyone. Missile defense is probably a good step in that direction. Next time some country steps out of line, we launch a nuclear missile at them. Just seconds before it hits, we blow it up with our missile defense so that everyone there sees the huge explosion in the sky. Then the president would just call up their leader and say, “Hey, we lost sight of our SDI test. Did you see if it worked?”

By now, you’re probably saying, “Great idea. But how to do we pay for all these random acts of violence?” Just create an “Other Country Tax”, a tax for being a country other than the U.S. After implementing my plan, all the countries will be eager to pay the money, and probably add a nice tip to win favor.

So there you have it, a real peace plan that could actually work. Warmongering pacifists want us to act all nice such that countries think we’re rational and won’t kill everyone with a blind fury, thus making it possible they might actually attack us and draw us into a war. But, if America follows my idea and lashes out at the slightest provocation with unmeasured vengeance, there can be peace. So there’s the choice: either be a homicidal maniac thus ensuring peace and love in the world, or be some pacifist hippy while the streets flow with the blood of the innocent.
 
Haaa, I remember the french fries. Also, look on Coast to Coast AM's website for shots of the impact.
 
You know, when I heard about this, the first thing that popped into my mind is "We're gonna cock this right up, aren't we". I could just picture NASA inadvertently destroying the moon. 😛
 
You know, when I heard about this, the first thing that popped into my mind is "We're gonna cock this right up, aren't we". I could just picture NASA inadvertently destroying the moon. 😛

God's Ultimatum: Destroy de moon, Destroy de world.
 
What is the purpose of this? To find water? Why? Are there little moonies up there that NASA has been keeping a secret from us? hmm

If you enjoy being a human, and generally support the continued existence of the human race, than the venture into space exploration is of equal import as medical science; if not more. The Earth, Sun, Moon, and the resources they provide (ie; you being alive), are not infinite. I don't care what anyone says; eventually we will run out of resources and space to put things and people. With that in mind, we currently orbit a middle-aged star, meaning time is running out. Granted, this will not happen until long after your great-great-great-great-great grand children are dead, but it will happen.

Having water on the moon will make future colonization efforts much easier. Instead of having to haul several tons of water up to the moon to support a small city, you can simply live off the land. With water out of the picture as a major concern, it would be a simple matter of construction and stabilization of an atmosphere.

Being able to live off the land like that is not only allowing the moon to become a place to live, but it also turns the moon into a much needed stepping stone for further space exploration; and adds to our own experience as a race of explorers.

If the colonization of the moon is within our grasp, then the colonization of mars is within our grasp. Then the colonization of moons around the gas giants (especially Titan) is within our grasp. With enough time, hard work, and the resources we can acquire, we may even be able to one day move out of the solar system. Once you successfully transfer humans out of the solar system, our species has the potential to go on until every last star burns out. Who knows what we could achieve in that time?

This is why these first steps, like "shooting the moon", are important.
 
(Nasa administrator walks into room)

(he puts down both of his hands on the meeting room table and gets a serious look on his face)

"Gentlemen...I'll be blunt. How do we kill THE MOON?

^_~
 
I'd like to think that someone or other will wake the fuck up and realize that cramming the planet with people it cannot support (via nutball policies surrounding contraception, abortion, etc) and trashing its resources in the name of some elusive concept called "economic growth" is not the way to treat our home planet, especially if we expect to survive as a species. Thinking of the Earth ase just another disposable commodity is the fast track to going the way of the dinosaurs.

Back to space exploration, I believe the exploration of new worlds is important for its own sake. Finding out more about our solar system, and the universe in general, can only better our condition in the long run (and kick sand in the faces of the hypocritical charlatans who want to ban the teaching of evolution in schools). One day, the sun will go nova and burn out. Checking the classifieds, so to speak, for a world which might support human life is not a bad idea!
 
It would literally take all of the earth's possible energy to create enough thrust to get to the next hospitable planet.

You'd have to milk earth dry to get there, and as such, I find traveling in space to be an entirely useless waste of time.

Don't get me wrong, it is awesome, but it won't happen, I don't believe.

The amount of energy it would take to make a planet hospitable is even more than it would take to just fly to a planet that could support life.
 
@ Chameleon
True, however whether it be at the hands of humans or not, eventually a cataclismic disaster will befall Earth. Although it will take a long time to develop technology to properly inhabit and maybe even terra -mod a planet, it is neccessary that we as a race do make it into space and other planets or else we'll face extinction.
 
So you would argue that continuing the human race is a useless waste of time? Where do I begin?

The Earth will be destroyed by the sun in billions of years. Again, this sounds like a long time from now, but look at how many thousands of years it has taken humans to get to the point we're at today. The only thing that truly hampers humanity is our affinity for warfare with each other, and our affinity for letting religion run (and ruin) our lives. It will take us many years to overcome these things, which is almost certainly a requirement for a true space-faring race.

However, it would not require milking the earth dry to "get to the next hospitable planet" because there is no idea where that planet is. Assuming that our only problem is propulsion/energy, then fusion will solve this problem soon. There are plans for a magnetic confinement fusion reactor to be built in France I believe, and it looks quite hopeful. Hydrogen is abundant in the universe, so fuel would be a non-issue.

"Terra-forming" a planet, however, may not be such a simple issue. One can make the argument that terra-forming Mars would be RELATIVELY easy as it possesses water and carbon, but it has a poor magnetosphere and atmospheric pressure. It's a bit far from the sun too. We could establish cities on Mars, but eventually they would have to be abandoned, because the sun is going to die eventually.

Do not hold false hope that there will be a grand rapture that spirits away the good souls to heaven once the earth is dying. Do not hold false hope that some genius scientist will discover a means of faster-than-light propulsion. But do no believe that there is no hope for humanity at all. There is no escaping the fact that this solar system's sun is middle-aged, and if we want to have any sort of chance to survive, we have to leave.

With all these things said, it makes me very happy to see that there are at least a few people who feel the way I do about space exploration. With people like this, there is hope for humanity. 🙂
 
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