Point to ponder: are we dealing with TWO different "fetishes" here?

[strtbottomjim]

...or maybe even more, if you count "gay variants"?

First thing, I'm not using "fetish" in a negative sense. From everything I've seen here, and via various pics, we're dealing with something utterly different from the usual BDSM scene...which personally leaves me somewhere between flat and 😱.

See, as a definate 'lee, my preference in pics is F/M (or FFF(etc)/M) and I've seen a few good FMFM/M...and it's not about a usual "porn" experience where I'm attracted to those in the pic, but more as a "fantasy aid" where I can see myself in the 'lee position and *really* get turned on.

Yet others don't like F/M pics and their variants. Could that be because they want to visualize themselves in the 'ler position, and visualize a particular female 'lee under their playful control? If so, that might explain why both hetero male 'lees are rare, and F/M pics aren't as popular as other types.

If that's the case, looks more like we're dealing with *two* unusual but harmless mental tweaks, which sometimes (but not always, if I'm any indicator 😛) show up in the same person?

 

[BellyTicklerX]

hmm

No offense, and I'm not trying to be rude, ignorant, or start a fight, but I think you need to get more comfortable with your sexuality.

Don't start straight vs bisexual vs homosexual war or witch hunt. While that's probably the farthest thing from what you're trying to do, I fear that's what will happen.

And no, I don't think it's two fetishes...at all.

I don't consdier homosexuality or being straight a fetish, its merely your orientation

 

[strtbottomjim]

The main difference I was referring to was 'lee vs. 'ler, and only noted that *some* might make further distinctions. Didn't mean anything past that.

 

[mysterytic]

If you mean lee vs ler

I think the overwhelming majority of people in this fetish perfer the ler position. My hunch is most lees can play the ler role, but fewer lers would play the lee role. Those that are comfortable playing both roles are truly blessed. They can have satisfaction a lot more easily. That's my view.

 

[TicklingDuo]

I'm a female who enjoys both sides of the game...though I'm more of a lee. What you were saying about the pics is true for me as well AFA being somthing of a fantasy aid. I can picture myself much more as the lee than as the ler. I STILL enjoy f/m material though!

Ann

 

[evilqueen]

I think the overwhelming majority of people in this fetish perfer the ler position.

Depends on who you ask. Judging by the men I've known online and r/l, I'd have to say the majority prefer both positions. But the majority of males on _this site_ prefer the ler position.

I've seen a few good FMFM/M...and it's not about a usual "porn" experience where I'm attracted to those in the pic, but more as a "fantasy aid" where I can see myself in the 'lee position and *really* get turned on.

That's a submissive reaction. Most tickler-only guys reject F/M because they're dominant, whether they call themselves that or not. They're into control. Everyone into tickling is into control, taking it or giving it up. That's what BDSM is all about too.

BTW, straight male 'lees are not rare. Not by a long shot.

 

[tklr5150]

I'm a straight male who enjoys playing both roles. I like */f stuff because I like watching/hearing/imagining women being tickled, and I like f/m stuff because I like to put myself in the lee's place (of course, at this point the idea of a female touching me in any way is enough to give me a happy 😛 ) I don't think sexuality enters into it, just what aspect of tickling you get your enjoyment from. For me, the control angle is not the primary source of my pleasure, so I can switch-hit with ease.

It brings up an interesting question, though, which I'll save for another thread . . . . .

 

[TickledToDeath]

I am a "straight" male and am into both ler and lee positions.
It does not matter the scenario of the vid I am watching, I can still fantasise myself in either or both positions. However, personally, I would rather watch a Female getting tickled in a video although I love to see Females doing the tickling but have not seen a F/M vid worth squat as the lees are just not ticklish enough or at all for that matter and the lers just don't seem to be "into" it either.

TTD