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Pretty good tickle dare (f/f)

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Björre

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youtube.com/watch?v=Wrv29Bj5Rlg

Tied up and everything. Profile says 21 years old. All you could possibly ask for!

//Björre
 
Beautiful - this one won't be up long, I'm guessing, once the creepers start making comments...
 
They're probably too young, but the profile says what the profile says.

Also, while the creeps are annoying, it's even worse to see TMF members attacking them in the vid comments. Most people don't understand that the creeps are being sexual, so coming in and insulting them and making people aware of the fetishism makes our fetish look even worse.

Ignorance is bliss, if vanillas think it's just tickling (and, lets face it, it's really not that terrible), then just let them think that and don't watch the video yourself.
 
Too young?

Possibly lied about their ages, but their profile says 21. You know, people do sometimes look younger than what their age really is. If a young looking 30 year old went to a store to buy beer, do they get turned down because they don't look 21? no.
 
desperado_flare said:
They're probably too young, but the profile says what the profile says.

Also, while the creeps are annoying, it's even worse to see TMF members attacking them in the vid comments. Most people don't understand that the creeps are being sexual, so coming in and insulting them and making people aware of the fetishism makes our fetish look even worse.

Ignorance is bliss, if vanillas think it's just tickling (and, lets face it, it's really not that terrible), then just let them think that and don't watch the video yourself.
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It's obvious they are too young. Any person could tell that these girls are underaged. Come on, now. Just because their profile says they're 21 doesn't mean they're 21. It's the internet.. People lie all the time. It's best to use your own judgement rather than the info given.

The creeps are annoying because they make the tickling fetish look bad. Even worse, they make us look like a bunch of pedos.. How is it worse that some people feel like calling these people out? If anything, it might help stop the flow of these videos if you make people aware. You let these pedophiles deceive unsuspecting minors, and they'll just make more videos for them. does that sound right to you? I sure hope not.

Using ignorance to deceive anyone, ESPECIALLY minors, is just plain wrong. Don't try to justify it.
 
Björre said:
youtube.com/watch?v=Wrv29Bj5Rlg

Tied up and everything. Profile says 21 years old. All you could possibly ask for!

//Björre
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Thanks for the contribution and posting around here can be tricky! Just alot easier to stay away from the dares because these are usually done by the younger crowd, but thanks for the post!
 
Jomel2 said:
It's obvious they are too young. Any person could tell that these girls are underaged. Come on, now. Just because their profile says they're 21 doesn't mean they're 21. It's the internet.. People lie all the time. It's best to use your own judgement rather than the info given.

The creeps are annoying because they make the tickling fetish look bad. Even worse, they make us look like a bunch of pedos.. How is it worse that some people feel like calling these people out? If anything, it might help stop the flow of these videos if you make people aware. You let these pedophiles deceive unsuspecting minors, and they'll just make more videos for them. does that sound right to you? I sure hope not.

Using ignorance to deceive anyone, ESPECIALLY minors, is just plain wrong. Don't try to justify it.
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You can't judge a book by it's cover. I know college Juniors who look and sound younger than these girls.

As for the criticism, it looks bad because the critics act like vanillas themselves. They don't say "I'm also a tickling fetishist, we're not all creeps."

Look at badreligion's post: "You are all such fucking creeps , whats wrong are you that sexually frustrated because you can't get a date so you watch this and pretend its you while jerking off ? God people like you are losers."

If I didn't recognize his name from this forum, I'd think he was a vanilla calling fetishists freaks. The whole pedophile thing is lost, it becomes bad because it's "weird tickling," not "weird tickling involving minors."
 
Regardless of whether they are minors are not, The dares thing doesn't sit well with me. Just seems wrong that people are pretty much taking advantage of these girls.
 
Nice, a debate, and about an important topic at that!

There are several points to be made in this discussion. One being the impact of your own perspective - having aged some myself, I find that people I now think look like kids and have talk like children, oftentimes turn out to be well into their 20s.

Also, as was already pointed out, looks are of course very individual. A larger problem might be underages who look older than they really are and that we never even bother checking the age of.

These two points further hint at another issue: whom are we trying to protect with the 18 age limit? In terms of morality, I am not sure that a very immature and naive 19 year old who has no idea what she is doing, would be more OK than a conscious 17 year old. I'm sure most of us here had more than a vague idea about sexuality and fetishism when we were 17.

Rather than trying to make any conclusions about the present clip, I think the bottom line is the need for some kind of decision rule and as we have seen, looks are rarely instructive enough. As long as it is a question of personal judgment, there will always be borderline cases and it is not simply enough to say that we should leave such cases out, because what we find to be borderline is, as was stated above, very dependent on your own perspective.

Thus I still think the age included in profiles must be an important guide. Other than that, the inclusion of the stated age when posted here, might add that it could be a - for the lack of a better word - borderline case.
 
I don't think we will find college students making tickling dares for their youtube fame. I am convinced that every tickle dare on youtube are young kids. Older people can't be as easily convinced to do it. The people posting comments on these videos even creep me out
 
jessjones said:
I don't think we will find college students making tickling dares for their youtube fame. I am convinced that every tickle dare on youtube are young kids. Older people can't be as easily convinced to do it. The people posting comments on these videos even creep me out
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This may or may not be true, but I tend to agree.

However the question remains: "What's the ultimate harm?"

Do I disagree with the conduct and practice of requesting niche-porn from youngsters? Absolutely.

However, I see very little progress being made through vilifying and arguing.

So what to do? We're not going to solve the problem here on this thread...or even this forum, so watch a potential 17yr old and feel dirty, or not. That's about what it boils down to folks.
 
I like all the excuses i'm hearing. Really creative. Whatever you gotta tell yourself, but they're underaged and you know it.
 
Black Hat said:
So what to do? We're not going to solve the problem here on this thread...or even this forum, so watch a potential 17yr old and feel dirty, or not. That's about what it boils down to folks.
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This is true, people requesting these videos may or may not be members of this forum and even then we aren't the internet police we can't exactly stop people from requesting kids to do these videos and post creepy comments about them. Some members will watch them anyway, not post, but still watch and get gratification from it, a number that will be alot higher than people think.

The only thing this forum can do is not have these videos posted on this forum, to ensure that we aren't seen to be associated with inidividuals who makes these requests and comment on them.
 
Black Hat said:
However the question remains: "What's the ultimate harm?"
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The TMF used to be filled with underage stuff, from stories, drawings, and clips. And back then there were NO complaints; eventually time went on & there were a very few complaints. Add to this that a lot of the posted stuff came from major, "big name" contributors at the time.

I know things are different now; that's fine. But to say in 2001 that "it's all good" and now to say it's "absolutely immoral to the highest possible degree" is a bit of an unrealistically wide pendulum swing. Especially in an age where internet savvy youth want to, are willing to, exploit themselves.

And what about the TMF members who have outed themselves privately - or stranger still - here on the TMF itself as having been underage lurkers for years? What punishment shall be doled out by the high-dudgeon moralists towards them? Great example - but not the only one:

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=195735

2 words about all of this:

“Re” + “lax".
 
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