religous insults from children!!!

[Deleted member 2452]

i really thought we in america were past this, but we're not it seems.
my son came home this evening crying with rage! seems while playing with a friend a couple blocks from our home, a group of hitler youth that lives on that block decided to start a fight with my son. well and good if it was a fair fight, but nooo, as soon as he'd start to best one, the others would drag him off, and a new opponent steped in.
this isn't the bad part though. they taunted him by calling him a "stupid jew". that's what really had him upset. i became wild!
i took him, and my daughters followed, as they wanted to taste some blood too.
the parents weren't home. and this boy is only 9! home alone! what kind of assholes are these people? who in todays society teaches their kids to "jew bait"? what kind of low life scum still practices this kind of behavior?
i started to yet at the neighbors when they came out. the name caller ran out the back, and over to the neighbors house. their kid was also in the fight, but not the name calling. so i anounced LOUDLY, that this was not going to be tolerated any longer! that the next kid that called my son a "jew anything" was going to get their parents ass's kicked by me. i asked them the same thing i asked here, what kind of people are they? of course their little chris would never do anything like this, oh no, they trained him better! yeah, right!
no more i told them, we jews don't take this shit any more. the father asked why i was yelling? i told him i was putting the whole area on notice, any more jew talk, and i'd kick all their asses.
at that moment i think i could have done it too. i probably would have killed some one, and gone to jail. all the guy said was "maybe it would be better if your son didn't play here any more". he's right, and i told my son to stay away. god i wanted him to challenge me! i wanted to hurt someone, anyone. i'm still in a rage! that's why i'm talking to you, my fellow tickphiles. we know how passionate we are.
thanks for listening. any coments are welcome.
steve

 

[venray]

Damn the small minded.......

Many of today's parents have no clue what their kids are doing, saying, or learning from others. The family isnt what it was when I was growing up. Glad you didnt kill anyone or go to jail Steve.

Unfortunately we still have those of little brain--the anti semetics,
racists, and the generally ignorant who will never learn that people are people.

On the other side, there ARE those who who will accept us for who we are. Seek them out and ignore the others.

Ray

 

[maverick83]

Got pretty hostile, huh? Can't say I blame ya. Hope you feel better soon. Remember, stress can come from anger and can take a serious toll. Take a couple deep breaths. Ven's right. Odds are, there will always be narrow-minded people who simply don't accept others for various reasons that really don't make sense. When it comes to violence, do what you have to. Personally, I am strictly non-violent, with the following exception: I will not hesitate to defend myself or others, by any means nessecary. Hope you taught those little punks a lesson they won't forget!

 

[WallStreet]

Areenactor-- It is unfortunate that your children had to be subjected to such stupidity. The fact that this 9year old's parents weren't home shows you what kind of white trash that they are.
It is important that your kids know that they have a right to defend themselves, but what is more important is that you teach them that it's not just hate that these people are suffering from, it's IGNORANCE.
When parents teach their kids prejiduce, it is the strongest form. It is all these kids will ever know, and they will pass it on to their kids. Their was a thread some months back about a Nazi video game. Kids playing this game will drastically poison their mind.
Being prejiduce is very uncool, but as Howard Cunningham once told the Fonz "Prejiduce is stronger than cool". The Fonz was shocked to hear this, but Mr C explained that prejiduce has been around since the cavemen, and cool has only been around since Benny Goodman.

 

[JoBelle]

Oh Goodness! I just read and agreed with a whole poast written by Wall$street. 😛 Who would have thought the day would come? *hehe*

Steve,
As you well know, children are cruel. Unfortunately, I've learned through my own life and being a parent, children with unfeeling, self-centered parents, are even MORE cruel. They choose the one thing about the "other" kid that they can attack, whatever is different. Is it race, gender, body shape, a wheelchair, a religion, or just that he's the only kid with red hair? It's those and anything else.

The beauty in this is that your child saw that his father would stand up for him for something that is CHOSEN, not just something that he had to keep. (Religion as opposed to maybe being on the short side, or having a lot of freckles) When kids see that choices are worth defending, it empowers them to make GOOD ones later! Your choice to be verbal instead of physical was another good choice. I think you must be a loving dad! Granted, you may aso look like a raving lunatic, but that might come in handy later. 😛

To put into practice a little something I recently picked up... Baruch Atah Adonai, Eloheynu Melech ha-olam, m'shanah ha-b'r-ot.
Blessed are You, Eternal One our God, Universal Presence, Who creates variety among living beings.

Let's hope there was a purpose for this variety of man.
Joby

 

[kurchatovium]

I am glad you told these ignorant jerks off Steve. I am also glad no actual fighting took place. At some level these idiots are bullies. In my opinion the worse kind of bully, the kind that targets a group of people because of their own ignorant prejudices. In my experience the only way to deal with bullies is to confront them and show them you are not afraid of them. I think you did that very well, my friend and I hope you scared the hell out of those nazi jerks. Like I said I am glad no fighting actually took place mainly because I would not want you to get in any trouble.

As long as your son knows not to be afraid of these punks and that he does have the right to defend himself everything will work out OK. If you still need to talk or to just to vent, kurchatovium is always here. Take care.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

Oh Goodness! I just read and agreed with a whole poast written by Wall$street. 😛 Who would have thought the day would come? *he

Let's hope there was a purpose for this variety of man.


Joby

like olympic spear catcher? target practice perhaps? lol
you really suprised me joby, where did you get that hebrew quote?
it's timing, and your delivery were perfect. there is nothing sexier than an intelligent woman, woof!
lol
thank you one and all who responded, reading your thoughts, and feeling your support(not to mention someone pinched my butt) has helped me. thanks again, from a loving father, a raving lunatic,
and a fellow tickphile.
steve

 

[JoBelle]

Steve,
You've calmed down since last we saw you! Good to see.

Thanks, you silly tickle guy! I'm feelin' sexy today, now~! You're sweet aren't ya? You mean that quotation was Hebrew *GASP!* 😛 Reckon I'm just full of little surprises.

Joby

 

[Ticklish9's]

Wallstreet?

Not to antagonize you, Mr. Street, but I can't agree with your post in which you label these people "white trash". I understand you wanted to explain the depth of disgust you had for them (a wholly warranted disgust for their actions in allowing their children to adopt such a hateful policy) but given that what started this whole thread was ethnic slurs, I don't feel that another ethnic slur was really called for.
I admit I'm somewhat biased. I've seen my mom, who would die before abandoning either myself or my sister, called "white trash sh*t" to her face simply because she had to work 3 jobs - Three! - to support us at the time and thus wasn't home as much as the "traditional" families in our town. We may be on the lower end of the economic scale, we may not have access to the "culture" that city dwellers and more affluent citizens do, but I hardly think that makes us "trash". While I condemn the actions of these 9 year olds, I hardly think more intolerence is what's called for. I, for one, will not presume to judge them without being adequatly appraised of the facts.
My apologies for coming off harsh, but no matter what success one finds in life, it is difficult to escape derogatory labels that you have no control over - I'm sure Areenactor understands this as well as I do.
Oh, one caveat - as an objective observer I know I believe this, but if it were my kids, I can only say I'd likely want blood to. Even the staunchest idealism is second to family.

 

[shark]

You might consider pressing charges against all the involved parents.
In PA,it is illegal to leave any child under 12 unattended.The rest could well fall under the ethnic intimidation laws.At least it might give the parents a wake-up call.

 

[WallStreet]

No offense taken

Ticklish9's-- You are correct. I should not use the term "white trash" when describing these people who antagonized Areenactor's family. That would be an insult to people who actually ARE white trash.
To be clear, my remark was NOT directed towards low income families.
It was NOT directed towards mothers who work 3 jobs to feed their families.
It was NOT directed towards people who live in trailer parks, people who work at McDonald's, or people who have to struggle to put food on their tables.
It was NOT directed towards people who come from tiny little towns like the one I grew up in (I wasn't always Wall$treet).
Most importantly, it was NOT directed towards Ticklish9's mom, nor any of his family members, nor he himself.
My remark was directed towards bigots who preach hate to their children. Bigots who leave their children home alone when they should have supervision. I doubt that these people were at work. They were probably at a Klan meeting.
My father grew up in a day when bigots ruled the roost and oppression was rampant. When he served the army in Korea his life was saved by a fellow soldier, a BLACK fellow soldier. If it wasn't for this black man's heroism, I would not have been born, which means you would all be deprived of my various opinions (and what would you ever do without them?). It was drilled into my head at a very young age to respect all races and creeds. If I used a racial slur in my home growing up, like the slurs that Areenactor's kid was subjected to, my father would have beaten the shit out of me.
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JoBelle-- I'm sorry that out of my 900 posts and a year in the TMF that you've only found ONE of my posts to be enjoyable and informative. Perhaps by July 2003 I can come up with one more.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

well, actually they are white, and they certainly are trash...

so with no offense toward any one who doesn't call people religous insults, those Aholes are white trash!
to jobe, yes i am better today, and the replies from my fellow tmf denisens has been a big help.
the plot thickens here. the police are involved, but my son's friend who was there can no longer be friends with my son. his father is affraid what the neighbors will think. i mean who wants it know their kid plays with jeeeeeewwwwsssss!!!
one good thing, at least the man was sober when he called. that is a first!
steve

 

[JoBelle]

Re: No offense taken

JoBelle-- I'm sorry that out of my 900 posts and a year in the TMF that you've only found ONE of my posts to be enjoyable and informative. Perhaps by July 2003 I can come up with one more.

Wallstreet...kindly take a look that there was a little smiley and a point of written laughter regarding said comment. I'm not here to inflate your ego, but in all honesty that wasn't actually the first post that I agree with. It was what some of us in the world call a JOKE. I think you're a little too high on the response to T9 right now. I was agreeing with you and joking around a bit. No need to be so literal! Sheesh, sorry I ever said a word. You can be sure it'll be a year before my next comment to you. You may breathe a sigh of relief now.

Joby

 

[shark]

From the sounds of this,you're better off moving to New Mexico.

 

[Ticklish9's]

Ok...

I guess I was simply making the point that why say "White trash" when "Worthless pieces of dog dropping mucus" would have sufficed (and not contained any reference to an ethnic slur, which is what began the difficulty). And you are right. I was allowed to find my own beliefs on ethnic relations, and while I drifted into the National Alliance while younger, I learned some tough lessons (particularly in the army) and no longer can I accept that any one group of people is superior or inferior - different, perhaps, in many ways, but not better or worse or any other subjective judgement. And I apologize for getting bitter...totally uncalled for and I can offer no excuses for my behaviour, simply a humble apology.

 

[TklrJoe]

Wow, see how contagious that negative energy is? What started with areenactor Steve's neighbor's kid, spread to this thread!

Very contagious, very dangerous.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

i am thinking, of moving to mesa arizona!

does that count shark?lol. i hear there are a large number of mormans in mesa. does anyone know how they react towrds jewish people?
t-niner, sweetheart, no need to appologise. i understand what you were trying to do, and say. it was a nice touch really, that you wanted us to take the "high brow" approach.
it's amazing how much energy, and emotion got used up in this verbal fracus night before last. as happens in life, more crap came my way yesterday. and i didn't get mad, and start screaming, etc. like i normally would. i was too drained. and in comparison to didn't matter.i even tried to work up a good case of being p.o.'d, but couldn't. i ended up just saying to my daughter "hel with them, you don't need them".
steve

 

[Ticklish9's]

Glad...

... you understood the point that was buried under all my random rambling. Sometimes even I have difficulty following my trains of thought (none of which have brakes, though random switching stations abound...)

 

[shark]

does that count?

Sure,why not?

 

[ShiningIce]

Looks like this country isnt so golden after all..................

 

[qjakal]

Golden?

Why? Because not all the individuals in it have mastered tolerance? Hope we don't have to hold our breath waiting for THAT day! As for moving along , my wife (who is the offspring of 2 Holocaust survivors) and I (Roman Catholic) left one side of a Buffalo suburb for just that reason...it's impossible to either reason with or fight an entire neighborhood, nor should we have to do either one. This thread has had a few misunderstandings, and it's a shame, because it was a good opportunity to discuss diversity and how being part of a community means different things to some people. We moved to Long Island, haven't had a bit of trouble anywhere. BUT, if I saw this happening in MY community here, I'd try to get a bunch of people together and let it be known that it isn't acceptable behavior and won't be quietly tolerated....shame that it hasn't reached that point everywhere, but, it's a big country. Every generation it gets a bit better...every single one...never give up trying to move the bar a bit when you get the opportunity. Q

 

[Ticklish9's]

Hey Q...

You were a Buffalonian? I'm a native of Buffalo myself, and a Catholic like you. My suburb is rather more tolerent of religion, but not so with affluence. Buffalo, however, is a city and region I remain perversly proud of. 🙂 Just curious whereabouts in WNY you were from.

 

[SuperMario]

That's Freaking Wrong!

Racial and religious prejudice is such bullshit! I see this stuff firsthand every day at school (living in the south...) I'm tired of it! I love Jews and the Black Man and everybody! it matters not what you look like it's who you are!!! but I'm preaching to the converted.... God Bless all you guys and good luck with your kid.

Peace, ekiM

 

[qjakal]

Buffalo...

Lemme see, I lived in North Tonawanda, West Seneca, Hamburg and eventually Derby, down by the lake. Yeah, it's an interesting town, but financially a disaster....good overall atmosphere though...but the WINTERS....aayieee!!! Q

 

[shark]

What part of Buffalo would Dutton Avenue be in?