Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Nominees for 2011

[likeasong1]

I don't know if anyone's interested in this besides me. But there are 15 nominees, and are expected to be 5-8 nominees.

The nominees are:
Alice Cooper
The Beastie Boys
Bon Jovi
Chic
Neil Diamond
Doctor John
Donovan
The J. Geils Band
LL Cool J
Darlene Love
Laura Nyro
Donna Summer
Joe Tex
Tom Waits
Chuck Willis

If you got to vote for up to 8, whom would you vote for?

Which 5-8 do you think WILL make it?

 

[idiot756]

Alice Cooper and Bon Jovi.

But you know, it really pisses me off that non-rock musicians are even allowed in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame at all. For example, I have a lot of respect for LL Cool J and his accomplishments, but he is not a rock star and has no business being there.

KISS is more deserving. I've always found that their showmanship was a lot better than their actual music, but at least they're a rock band - a popular one at that.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

the hollywood brother thinks this is a very talented group of artist that includes new jerseys own bon jovi

 

[Abadon XXX1]

gotta love me some bon jovi

 

[likeasong1]

Alice Cooper and Bon Jovi.

But you know, it really pisses me off that non-rock musicians are even allowed in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame at all. For example, I have a lot of respect for LL Cool J and his accomplishments, but he is not a rock star and has no business being there.

Rap is a form of rock and roll. I know a lot of people don't agree with it, but it's true. Rock and roll is not just kick-ass guitar licks. R&B is just as important and integral to "rock and roll" as stadium/arena or classic rock is.

 

[Hootus1]

Neil Diamond, Donovon, and Chuck Willis. They are the only ones I care for. The rest are just not my speed. But then, I'm older than the rest of you rugrats! LOL!

 

[likeasong1]

Well, if I could vote for as many as I wanted, the only one I would NOT check off is Dr. John. But since voters supposedly only get to pick up to eight: the eight that I would check off would be:

Alice Cooper
Beastie Boys
Neil Diamond
Donovan
J. Geils Band
Darlene Love
Donna Summer
Tom Waits

There are at least five inductees every class, so of the 15, I think the five best bets are:
Donovan
Tom Waits
J. Geils Band
Beastie Boys
Neil Diamond

and if they do go up to eight, the next three most likely are:
Donna Summer
Alice Cooper
LL Cool J

As much as I'd like to see Bon Jovi make it, I think they're gonna fall just shy. But I've been very wrong before, so we'll see.

 

[Bator]

Alice Cooper and Donovan should have been inducted long ago and as long as the Moody Blues keep being ignored the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a sham. Donna Summer, Bon Jovi and the Beastie Boys, you,ve got to be kidding.

 

[likeasong1]

The Moody Blues are hardly the worst snub by the Rock Hall. But there really haven't been too many "bad calls", that is those who shouldn't have been inducted.

 

[Bator]

That,s your opinion not mine, they have been around since 64 and after Denny and Clive left they added Justin Hayward and John Lodge in 67 and created masterpiece after masterpiece, if they don,t deserve to be inducted, who does? Certainly not the Beastie Boys.

 

[likeasong1]

I'm not saying the Moody Blues DON'T deserve it; they do. Just that there are many other artists you could point to that you'd say, "Yeah, they probably deserve it more." IMO, Stevie Ray Vaughan is the biggest. Even though he isn't the longest-waiting candidate, he made the blues cool again. He brought rock and roll back to its roots while bringing the roots into the then-modern times. Easily the biggest omission.

But I've heard others say it's Chicago, or Rush, Deep Purple, etc.

The Beasties are very deserving, imo. They exposed hip-hop to a whole new audience: the suburban audience. Their combination of punk rock and hip-hop was incredibly innovative and has proven influential. Again, rap is a form of rock'n'roll... you can't dismiss it because it doesn't have "Stairway To Heaven"-like guitar riffs.

 

[Bator]

I thought it was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame not the Hip Hop Hall of Fame or the Disco Hall of Fame, They should concentrate on getting the older Rock and Blues acts inducted first. I like Stevie Ray Vaughn and I agree that he should be inducted as well. The Blues had a baby and they named it Rock n Roll and Motown, Hip Hop, Techno and Disco are not Rock and Roll. They should have there own separate Halls. Why should real Rock bands like Rush, Deep Purple, Doobie Brothers, April Wine, Cheap Trick, Genesis, Styx, Ted Nugent, The Guess Who, Heart, Journey, Supertramp, REO Speedwagon, Iron Maiden, Chilliwack, Def Leppard, Chicago, Arthur Brown and even Kiss sit on the sidelines and watch bands that don,t deserve it get in.

 

[Wade1]

This is why it's interesting to get other perspectives. From where I'm sitting it seems like if there had never been a Moody Blues, the rest of rock and roll would still be pretty much the same. Whereas the Beastie Boys combined genuine innovation and a fundamentally rock and roll attitude to actually sort of nudge the trajectory of the entire genre slightly.

The genre has splintered so wildly over the decades that I don't see any practical way to exclude sub-genres like rap or disco (or pop or punk or emo or electronica). Anything that has its roots in the same mongrel folk-country-R&B hybrid as rock and roll is pretty much fair game.

If anything, it seems like maybe the hall inducts too many people; maybe the inductees should be restricted to one or two a year and thus be limited to figures who were genuinely groundbreaking, like Chuck Berry or the Velvet Underground. (Of course, the hall of fame is essentially a commercial, not an aesthetic, enterprise, and such a limitation wouldn't serve its bottom line.)

 

[melanie2]

Alice Cooper and Donovan should have been inducted long ago and as long as the Moody Blues keep being ignored the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a sham. Donna Summer, Bon Jovi and the Beastie Boys, you,ve got to be kidding.

hmm i have to agree with you..Alice Cooper damn i thought he was already inducted..and have Deep Purple been inducted??

oo and damn it..Stevie Ray should definitely have been inducted..he's been or was around as long or longer than Madonna..

 

[likeasong1]

I thought it was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame not the Hip Hop Hall of Fame or the Disco Hall of Fame, They should concentrate on getting the older Rock and Blues acts inducted first. I like Stevie Ray Vaughn and I agree that he should be inducted as well. The Blues had a baby and they named it Rock n Roll and Motown, Hip Hop, Techno and Disco are not Rock and Roll. They should have there own separate Halls. Why should real Rock bands like Rush, Deep Purple, Doobie Brothers, April Wine, Cheap Trick, Genesis, Styx, Ted Nugent, The Guess Who, Heart, Journey, Supertramp, REO Speedwagon, Iron Maiden, Chilliwack, Def Leppard, Chicago, Arthur Brown and even Kiss sit on the sidelines and watch bands that don,t deserve it get in.

Motown, hip-hop, techno and disco are all forms of rock and roll music. Rock'n'roll isn't a style of music so much as it is a diaspora. Rock'n'roll isn't just the blues... its roots are in blues, folk, jazz, country, and gospel. The acts you cited are all examples of just certain subgenres, mainly prog, arena, glam, metal... those are all part of rock'n'roll. But disco, hip-hop, and Motown are also part. They are actually closer to what rock'n'roll is, in terms of the original rhythmic DNA structure of r'n'r. The reason we don't really think that's true is because of the '60s British invasion, when acts like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc. all came plowing through. The acts that THEY influenced were the ones that helped make the popular connotation of "rock 'n' roll" to exclude R&B acts. But when all those British acts first came over... they were doing covers of American R&B acts. They were covering the Shirelles, Miracles, Chuck Berry, Womack Brothers, Irma Thomas, Contours, Chris Kenner, Sam Cooke, and Little Richard, to name a few. Yes, they were also doing Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley, and Buddy Holly, but Holly and Presley had also been presences on the R&B scene, and Perkins might well have been too if history unfolded a little differently for him.

And by the way, Genesis has been inducted. They were inducted this year, 2010.

 

[likeasong1]

hmm i have to agree with you..Alice Cooper damn i thought he was already inducted..and have Deep Purple been inducted??

oo and damn it..Stevie Ray should definitely have been inducted..he's been or was around as long or longer than Madonna..

SRV became eligible about a year after Madonna did.

I will admit this is one area they've been negligent... they really have been overlooking prog-rock acts. The only prog acts they've got in so far are Pink Floyd and Genesis. Deep Purple, Yes, the Moody Blues, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Rush, etc. have all been ignored. The main reason is that the Nominating Committee is composed heavily of critics, and historically, the critics never liked prog.

I could give you a laundry list of acts that I think have been neglected too. The main beef is that they simply don't induct enough artists each year. A lot of great acts become newly eligible each year, and once Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. become eligble, it's going to make it that much harder for any act from the '70s to get in.

 

[melanie2]

Rush...perhaps the greatest live act in the world..ignored???? wowoie..i'm not a huge fan of the Moody Blues..but i am of Deep Purple..and Nirvana should NOT be inducted before SRV...just my op..

 

[idiot756]

I'm sorry, but if the music isn't listed under the broad categories of "rock" or "metal", I don't consider them to be rock & roll. The way that some people tell it, all music is rock & roll. I heartily disagree.

These guys are examples of rock & roll to me:

Elvis Presley, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Nickelback, Linkin Park...

Some people would say that's a broad range, but I purposely chose different styles to illustrate my point. On the other hand, people like Madonna and Michael Jackson? Definitely not. ZZ Top - a band inspired by blues, but definitely a rock band. That doesn't mean that I consider blues to be rock.

But this is coming from a guy who really couldn't tell you the difference between the ridiculous amounts of subgenres (like "alternative" or "adult contemporary" - no idea what they are) in music. Since I didn't really get into music until the 10th grade, I usually don't know what I'm talking about. I have eclectic musical tastes and have a difficult time with categories.

 

[likeasong1]

I'm sorry, but if the music isn't listed under the broad categories of "rock" or "metal", I don't consider them to be rock & roll.

Unfortunately, there a lot of people who feel that way. And again, the reason they don't is because the term "rock" got hogged up by the artists who were directly influenced more by British invasion acts and less by actual R&B artists, who were the influences of those British invasion acts.

And not all music is "rock and roll". Jazz is definitely distinct and unique... I was not in favor of Miles Davis' induction in 2006, at least not in the Performer category. If he were inducted as an Early Influence, I wouldn't have cared.

And then there's country and western, which is a root music but I would say isn't rock'n'roll per se. However, it HAS been combined with other styles to be more rockin' in the subgenres like rockabilly, southern rock (think Lynyrd Skynyrd), psychobilly. There's been some push to get alternative-country legend Gram Parsons in, and I know there's been talk about the deserving nature of both Willie Nelson and Patsy Cline because of how incredibly influential they were upon later rock'n'rollers, but so far, those have amounted to nothing.

Other formats in a broader worldview have been considered, but other than reggae, which was born out of combining rock and roll with other styles and therefore considered part of the diaspora, it really hasn't amounted to much.

 

[mercenary]

I like Tom Waits, but I seriously doubt about his arrive to the RNR Hall of fame

Alice Cooper, Tom Waits , Donna Summer and Bon Jovi must be there