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Sadistic experience

torturoustickle

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We all have our fantasies about tickling. A lot around the more sadistic side.
Just curious, has anyone ever experienced what they consider to be tickling that truly became sadistic.
Either as a Ler or a Lee.
Also, how did it become so sadistic?
Did the Lee request it? Was there some sort of incentive involved? Or was the poor Lee just desperately unlucky?
 
There've been a few cases where my friend -- well, frenemy -- Sarah has edged over the line into sadism: when she knows I'm defenseless and knows I can't stand it but she just goes ahead and tickles me until I'm at my limit. Usually when this happens it's because she's particularly annoyed or angry with me, or because she's getting back at me for something I did, or just because inflicting that kind of suffering is fun for her. One example from my thread about her is here:

 
There've been a few cases where my friend -- well, frenemy -- Sarah has edged over the line into sadism: when she knows I'm defenseless and knows I can't stand it but she just goes ahead and tickles me until I'm at my limit. Usually when this happens it's because she's particularly annoyed or angry with me, or because she's getting back at me for something I did, or just because inflicting that kind of suffering is fun for her. One example from my thread about her is here:


Edged over the line??
I'd say hurdled it lol.
Still, some very good stories though. Evil female Lers, don't come around all that often.
 
Whenever I see the phrase "sadistic tickling," I am unsure of what the person is referring to, not because I don't know what the word means, but because sometimes it's used as a proxy for things like extreme or unbearable. And even when they technically do mean sadistic, I still think of two distinct forms of that: One being deriving pleasure from the lee's reactions and difficulty tolerating the tickling, but the lee still at some level being okay with the activity; and the other being deriving pleasure from not only the aforementioned elements, but also from the knowing and experience of the lee not being okay with the activity.

So if you're just referring to something that's very extreme and goes on for a while, I'd say that happens between my wife and I often, and occasionally with a play partner

If you're referring to the first type of sadistic tickling I mentioned, I'd say that happens on occasion to my wife, but most often me. I have an ongoing request for receiving this type of tickling. It does a lot for me, to include stress relief, mental and emotional recalibration, and it's just fun. My wife and other play partners have done this to me many times. I don't use safe words during this sort of activity. My wife and the other play partners so far have been ticklephiles that enjoy my reactions at this level, so it works out. In addition, I've seen a few over the years "in the wild." As I recall more I'll write about them, but I did write about one here.

The last one is essentially abuse. I think it can be seen differently and appreciated if kept in the realm of fantasy, but in reality it's not okay and I don't want to think about it, let alone share any observations of it.
 
Whenever I see the phrase "sadistic tickling," I am unsure of what the person is referring to, not because I don't know what the word means, but because sometimes it's used as a proxy for things like extreme or unbearable. And even when they technically do mean sadistic, I still think of two distinct forms of that: One being deriving pleasure from the lee's reactions and difficulty tolerating the tickling, but the lee still at some level being okay with the activity; and the other being deriving pleasure from not only the aforementioned elements, but also from the knowing and experience of the lee not being okay with the activity.

So if you're just referring to something that's very extreme and goes on for a while, I'd say that happens between my wife and I often, and occasionally with a play partner

If you're referring to the first type of sadistic tickling I mentioned, I'd say that happens on occasion to my wife, but most often me. I have an ongoing request for receiving this type of tickling. It does a lot for me, to include stress relief, mental and emotional recalibration, and it's just fun. My wife and other play partners have done this to me many times. I don't use safe words during this sort of activity. My wife and the other play partners so far have been ticklephiles that enjoy my reactions at this level, so it works out. In addition, I've seen a few over the years "in the wild." As I recall more I'll write about them, but I did write about one here.

The last one is essentially abuse. I think it can be seen differently and appreciated if kept in the realm of fantasy, but in reality it's not okay and I don't want to think about it, let alone share any observations of it.

That's very well said.
 
Whenever I see the phrase "sadistic tickling," I am unsure of what the person is referring to, not because I don't know what the word means, but because sometimes it's used as a proxy for things like extreme or unbearable. And even when they technically do mean sadistic, I still think of two distinct forms of that: One being deriving pleasure from the lee's reactions and difficulty tolerating the tickling, but the lee still at some level being okay with the activity; and the other being deriving pleasure from not only the aforementioned elements, but also from the knowing and experience of the lee not being okay with the activity.

So if you're just referring to something that's very extreme and goes on for a while, I'd say that happens between my wife and I often, and occasionally with a play partner

If you're referring to the first type of sadistic tickling I mentioned, I'd say that happens on occasion to my wife, but most often me. I have an ongoing request for receiving this type of tickling. It does a lot for me, to include stress relief, mental and emotional recalibration, and it's just fun. My wife and other play partners have done this to me many times. I don't use safe words during this sort of activity. My wife and the other play partners so far have been ticklephiles that enjoy my reactions at this level, so it works out. In addition, I've seen a few over the years "in the wild." As I recall more I'll write about them, but I did write about one here.

The last one is essentially abuse. I think it can be seen differently and appreciated if kept in the realm of fantasy, but in reality it's not okay and I don't want to think about it, let alone share any observations of it.
Points noted.
I guess the word "extreme" could also have been used as a description. However I guess that still leaves things open to interpretation as everyone has a different idea on what extreme is.
It is interesting that you say you use intense tickling as a stress relief, as I have a Lee just like that. Tickling her without a safeword and to tears, is her release, and she often says it's much cheaper than paying for therapy. Lol
I have only ever experienced it once myself, and it was very unexpected.
However I did emerge with a different, and much appreciated outlook on tickling in general, and those that subject themselves to it. 🪶
 
I guess the word "extreme" could also have been used as a description. However I guess that still leaves things open to interpretation as everyone has a different idea on what extreme is.
You're totally right–Anytime a word or phrase fits within a range of possibilities there's always going to be the question of where the line is. For "sadistic" in the tickling world, it has just become so much of a buzz word that I'm not sure we're all even talking about the same meaning sometimes.

It is interesting that you say you use intense tickling as a stress relief, as I have a Lee just like that. Tickling her without a safeword and to tears, is her release, and she often says it's much cheaper than paying for therapy. Lol
I have only ever experienced it once myself, and it was very unexpected.
However I did emerge with a different, and much appreciated outlook on tickling in general, and those that subject themselves to it. 🪶
Yes! I sometimes think of it as a therapeutic release as well. Tickling is wired into the part of the brain that processes emotions and pain, and for some, it can kind of force those out if the tendency is to hold them in. I kind of think of it as a massage for my emotional center. That's certainly been my experience, and for some others I know. Yeah, being on the other side of things can give a lot of lers a new perspective and appreciation for sure! Unexpected? How so?
 
A few times when this one female friend of mine at the time would banter and be sarcastic to each other, I'd tickle her as a playful form of revenge
 
You're totally right–Anytime a word or phrase fits within a range of possibilities there's always going to be the question of where the line is. For "sadistic" in the tickling world, it has just become so much of a buzz word that I'm not sure we're all even talking about the same meaning sometimes.


Yes! I sometimes think of it as a therapeutic release as well. Tickling is wired into the part of the brain that processes emotions and pain, and for some, it can kind of force those out if the tendency is to hold them in. I kind of think of it as a massage for my emotional center. That's certainly been my experience, and for some others I know. Yeah, being on the other side of things can give a lot of lers a new perspective and appreciation for sure! Unexpected? How so?
The emotional release is immense. The struggling, the laughter, the feeling of helplessness. Some have said time appears to stand still. Others, the tickling consumes all their thoughts. No wonder it can be so polarising.
 
The emotional release is immense. The struggling, the laughter, the feeling of helplessness. Some have said time appears to stand still. Others, the tickling consumes all their thoughts. No wonder it can be so polarising.
The person I know who is into enduring full on tickle torture sessions says using sensory deprivation gives them the best experience bec the feel of the LERs fingers (or tools) and the horrific overstimulation It creates means they can only feel the tickling and respond reflexively and intensely (but with the extreme immobility from the bondage, there is no chance of escaping the 'torture'. and the LER gauges the Lee's stress by how hard they are biting on their gag !
 
There was not a single, solitary session. It was always that way with him.

He just knew exactly how to pick me apart... And this was well before I knew anything about consent or safe words or the art of negotiation.

I was the ticklish tickler, and I had met the one person who somehow knew endless ways to destroy me. As strong as I was, he could always pin me and could turn me into a begging, blubbering mess in seconds. No bondage necessary. I could never escape.

And when he was tickling me, I swear he could read my mind. He was always several steps ahead. He knew the spots I tried desperately to hide/ protect. And he was the first person who made me love and hate tickling so much. He was also the first person to make me admit aloud that that I loved it. I thought that was my little secret. lol

He made me feel like I was flying and falling all at once. I remember one particular "session." He just would not stop no matter how much I cried. I was violently angry, broken, humiliated, but laughter was my weakness, and I could do nothing. I couldn't stop laughing or crying long enough to kick his ass. And he made me love it. I loved the control he had over me. I loved how incredibly helpless I felt... I loved the freedom (release) found in my laughter. I loved the way his body felt on mine. I loved the warmth from his touch, his strength... I loved how his fingers left fire in their wake. Tingly goosebumps... He made me beg for anywhere but there and tickled those spots so terribly that I would change my mind. Go back! Go back!

I was hooked, and I have been chasing that feeling ever since.
 
The person I know who is into enduring full on tickle torture sessions says using sensory deprivation gives them the best experience bec the feel of the LERs fingers (or tools) and the horrific overstimulation It creates means they can only feel the tickling and respond reflexively and intensely (but with the extreme immobility from the bondage, there is no chance of escaping the 'torture'. and the LER gauges the Lee's stress by how hard they are biting on their gag !
I have used gags regularly, and blindfolds only a handful of times. Lee's have said it does indeed increase anticipation, and also the feeling of the tickling sensation for the reasons you mentioned. I always leave it the Lee to choose, but do suggest it for those wishing to add a little spice to the session.
 
There was not a single, solitary session. It was always that way with him.

He just knew exactly how to pick me apart... And this was well before I knew anything about consent or safe words or the art of negotiation.

I was the ticklish tickler, and I had met the one person who somehow knew endless ways to destroy me. As strong as I was, he could always pin me and could turn me into a begging, blubbering mess in seconds. No bondage necessary. I could never escape.

And when he was tickling me, I swear he could read my mind. He was always several steps ahead. He knew the spots I tried desperately to hide/ protect. And he was the first person who made me love and hate tickling so much. He was also the first person to make me admit aloud that that I loved it. I thought that was my little secret. lol

He made me feel like I was flying and falling all at once. I remember one particular "session." He just would not stop no matter how much I cried. I was violently angry, broken, humiliated, but laughter was my weakness, and I could do nothing. I couldn't stop laughing or crying long enough to kick his ass. And he made me love it. I loved the control he had over me. I loved how incredibly helpless I felt... I loved the freedom (release) found in my laughter. I loved the way his body felt on mine. I loved the warmth from his touch, his strength... I loved how his fingers left fire in their wake. Tingly goosebumps... He made me beg for anywhere but there and tickled those spots so terribly that I would change my mind. Go back! Go back!

I was hooked, and I have been chasing that feeling ever since.
Wow, wow, wow!
Thank you so much for sharing that.
We can often go to one defining moment, or person that hooks us, breaks us, or makes us, what we are.
This guy sounds like he knew you as well as you knew yourself.
That's like the "holy grail" of tickling. Lol.
To find that tickling partner who elicits all the feelings and all the emotions.
I sincerely hope your chase is successful, and you find that feeling again. 💙
 
Was tickled by a married Couple. It was sadistic how they really searched for the spots that really got me, gave eachother Tips on techniques etc. They really got me.
I had a very similar experience once. A married couple, sadistic tickling, working as a team. I was very much a Ler only before that. That experience changed me and now I'm a solid switch.
 
Wow, wow, wow!
Thank you so much for sharing that.
We can often go to one defining moment, or person that hooks us, breaks us, or makes us, what we are.
This guy sounds like he knew you as well as you knew yourself.
That's like the "holy grail" of tickling. Lol.
To find that tickling partner who elicits all the feelings and all the emotions.
I sincerely hope your chase is successful, and you find that feeling again. 💙

He was actually my first real boyfriend. We met playing basketball, and to this day, I have no idea how we found each other. The odds of two tickle lovers running into each other naturally is wild! And he knew me WAY more about me than I knew about myself. We were not good for each other, though. So we only dated for a little while decades ago (1998?).

However, to this day, I love wrestling more than bondage. I love being bested and pinned (if you can manage to do it... I'm still very strong). And I absolutely love being tickled well past what I can ever hope to handle. I blame him for all of it. LOL But I'm not mad about it.

But on the topic, I just know not to expect mind-blowing, gut-wrenching sessions all the time, as truly sadistic (and sane, gentle, careful, aware, fun-loving) ticklers are very rare. Every once in awhile, I am pleasantly surprised, and broken to tiny lil ticklish pieces. Until then, I fantasize about what I can never have. And I'll never forget my first. (with his crazy ass!) 😂
 
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