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Separating your personal views in a conversation or debate?

lojak

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Do you have a hard time trying not to interject your personal views in a discussion or debate?

I know i do
 
Never been a problem for me. 😀 I mean, most debates and discussions are contrived of personal views, even those that remain on topic.

What's challenging is interjecting those points of view in a manner that's in keeping with the Golden Rule restrictions.
 
I don't think it's possible.

There'd be no need for debates if people could seperate their personal views from things. Because they'd see it with pure logic like a Vulcan and everyone would come to the same conculsion even if it bothered them on an emotional level.
 
You're supposed to inject your personal views into a debate.
 
Strider said:
You're supposed to inject your personal views into a debate.

what he said...of course you are supposed to inject that..however when debating the weather..i can keep it impersonal..
 
Yep, I'll have to agree with the rest of 'em here. Of course that's just my personal opinion. :evilha:
 
i disagree debating concern facts, not passion, if you talking about abortion that's a personal feelings, no fact is in evidence. if feel that conversation is best for passion and feelings.
 
i disagree debating concern facts, not passion, if you talking about abortion that's a personal feelings, no fact is in evidence. if feel that conversation is best for passion and feelings.\\

btw\

dr spock was and still is my hero
 
lojak said:
i disagree debating concern facts, not passion, if you talking about abortion that's a personal feelings, no fact is in evidence. if feel that conversation is best for passion and feelings.
Ah, facts. The world could use more of them, and that's a fact (or at least, I think so).

If you're talking about simple arguments over simple facts, then you're probably right. If someone says "The capital of Illinois is Chicago," and someone else says, "No, it's Springfield," then it's easy to find out which is right. The thing is, by their nature such "debates" don't last very long. More often people are arguing about what the facts mean. In that case things aren't so cut and dried.
 
TicklishLurker said:
I don't think it's possible.

There'd be no need for debates if people could seperate their personal views from things. Because they'd see it with pure logic like a Vulcan and everyone would come to the same conculsion even if it bothered them on an emotional level.

Well, what if your personal views are simply a reflection of "Vulcan" logic? I'm obviously not completely logical, but I try to be that way....
 
lojak said:
i disagree debating concern facts, not passion, if you talking about abortion that's a personal feelings, no fact is in evidence. if feel that conversation is best for passion and feelings.

For most topics, I agree. When it comes to religion though, not much is factual. Those kind of debates are primarily emotional and "spiritual", so to speak.
 
Never debate politics or religion, nobody wins. My momma told me that when I was six.

Haven't tried debating the weather yet 😀.

Debate or conversation on most subjects implies personal opinion, I do not see how one can avoid it.
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MrMacphisto said:
For most topics, I agree. When it comes to religion though, not much is factual. Those kind of debates are primarily emotional and "spiritual", so to speak.

i like to debate about the above things with people that has an open mind. I don't have a party, i don't have a religion but i do vote and i have spiritual beliefs. I also like to debate about race with anyone, but to be able to have since a talk. People have to remember to respect everyone believes. This will never happen so I basically just torpedo my own augment
 
lojak said:
dr spock was and still is my hero

Dr. Spock is the moron who said we shouldn't spank kids. MR. Spock is the beloved Vulcan played by Leonard Nimoy.
 
Honestly it really depends on the topic at hand. I can be very easygoing on some things, but quite stubborn on others. Usually though I try to keep my personal views to a minimum in a debate...succumbing to that is one of the first signs you're "grasping for straws" to win your argument.
 
TicklishLurker said:
Dr. Spock is the moron who said we shouldn't spank kids. MR. Spock is the beloved Vulcan played by Leonard Nimoy.

my bad, i wrote this when i'm usually in bed, old age, lack of sleep, off meds and need a drink will cause brian damage.
 
Many subjects have a truth or truth's behind them . At times it takes a while to understand and to bring out those truth/s and along the way temperatures can rise and passions can flow . Sometimes I find it frustrating as well as mind boggling that something's ' just never seem to get understood , I still can't figure that one out , is it us or them , or is it that all don't get it or that all do get it and just don't see it , as if to say that all understand ,as if many sides to a story . This may seem a play on words but give it a thought anyway .
 
Even when using "facts" in a debate, people often twist them up with their own personal feelings. Take idiots & proven liars Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh. They take the truth, then twist it, edit it, and otherwise manipulate it until it's more fictional then an episode of Star Trek. There's an element of facts in what they say, but they have misinterperted the facts more so then a Klan member twists around a Bible verse. All for their point of view.

You just cannot keep your personal feelings out of a debate. You'd have to be an android like Data pre-emotion chip to be able to do that.
 
lojak said:
my bad, i wrote this when i'm usually in bed, old age, lack of sleep, off meds and need a drink will cause brian damage.

Who's brian? *ducks and runs*
 
tickledgirl said:
Who's brian? *ducks and runs*

you thought i was joking?

*don't look behind you, someone will be gaining with some rope, duck tape and feathers*
 
lojak said:
you thought i was joking?

*don't look behind you, someone will be gaining with some rope, duck tape and feathers*
you get the feathers by pulling the tape off the ducks, right?
 
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