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so, is the tmf considered a porn site?

Dailyfan

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i'm sorry if something similar has been posted before, but i was curious to hear everyones thoughts.....do you consider this site to be a pornographic site? would you want your girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband to know you go to this site?

again, just curious.
 
"Porn" no. "Adult" yes. and there is a difference. there are many people who are involved in this fetish that draw, take pictures, make videos and write stories that have more pornographic themes to them. however, there is still that good number of people who prefer good ol', non-nudity tickling as well.
and my fiancee not only knows of this site, she is a member, posts on occasion, and makes sure any pics we take are posted on the TMF first.
 
Dailyfan said:
i'm sorry if something similar has been posted before, but i was curious to hear everyones thoughts.....do you consider this site to be a pornographic site? would you want your girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband to know you go to this site?

again, just curious.


Yeah, I consider it a source for pornographic material (or material that is primarily used for such purposes). Although, I'm sure many members use the site for discussions and meeting people, it's is primarily a hub for tickling multimedia, which 99% of us do naughty naughty things with. :firedevil In regards to your other question, since most people in my personal life know of my many fetishes (oh, there are so many), the question is irrelevant. However, I don't direct people I do business with here as I keep this aspect secret (as many folks do with their significant other). My reasons are purely monetary. I like writing scifi books and comics and would like some of my work to end up on TV or in theatres. I would probably lose lucrative contracts and business ties if I broadcast my interests.
webmaster joe
 
Flatfoot said:
Though not necessarily pornographic in nature, the adult-oriented nature of this site would no doubt catch a significant other's attention if they were unaware of the many facets involved with this place. At first glance, this site would undoubtedly make a "porn radar" go off.

In my former marriage, I made the mistake of not expressing my interest early on. Once this place was discovered, and without further investigation, my ex-wife concluded I was a sick pervert.

Since then, I've learned that even though I don't advertise my interest, I need to let anyone I'm involved with know about it.

When I talked to my current significant other about my interest, she became very curious, so I showed her this place, and she actually became a member!
Come to think of it, she's become an incredibly ACTIVE member, even more active than me...

In conclusion, in answer to your questions, this site has pornographic elements, and yes, you should want your significant other to know about your involvement with this sort of thing. Hiding things like this always ends badly.
I concur. Of course! Hiding the forum and/or your interest is like hiding a bit of yourself. Not to mention, if you hid it for an extended period of time and she found out, then chances are, whether she's ok with it or not, she will be mad that you hid something important to you from her.

Personally, if a guy has done something bad that might hurt me, I will respect him more in the long run if he was up front and honest about it, rather than me finding out months/years later or even on my own. Same applies to tickling, etc. Pretty much anything.

Just make sure you go about things the right way.
 
Oh, good lord. Let's just call it what it is. If you think pictures and videos meant to satisfy a sexual desire/appetite is porn, then the TMF is a porn site. If you think porn is nothing more than those awful vanilla fuckfests, then no, TMF isn't a porn site. It all depends upon your personal definition of porn. Would denying that TMF is a porn site pass the "reasonable man test" in court? Most probably not. But who really cares except people who need to believe that what they are seeing here absolutely is not porn, because porn is bad, or immoral, or whatever? And if that's how you feel, you have much bigger issues to deal with.
 
i've never considered the TMF a porn site and I never will, i've yet to hear anyone say anything negetive about it :bouncybou
 
i do not..however my husband definitely does..and we have little arguments over that issue..
 
The TMF is an adult site and some posts in it contain material of a sexual nature (such as pictures of nude people in provocative poses or stories with descriptions of sexual acts). But I would not call it pornograhic, no.
 
Porn? No.
Different venue and content all together.

Adult? Definitely.
 
I've had the same arguement with girls who I told about this to...tickling videos...and some say its porn cause you get off on it but others say "well if the girl isn't even naked and theres no sex involved then its not porn." Just depends how you look at it! I don't consider the TMF really to be porn...just adult.
 
It is not what the viewer does while watching a vid or website that makes it porn. It is the content OF the vid or website that constitutes whether or not it is porn.
If someone gets off by watching the miss america pagent, is that porn?
 
TickledToDeath said:
It is not what the viewer does while watching a vid or website that makes it porn. It is the content OF the vid or website that constitutes whether or not it is porn.
If someone gets off by watching the miss america pagent, is that porn?

well said TTD..i was just about to answer that person's post about what the viewer does while watching a video..that doesn't constitute porn, because one could say that a pedophile could get off while watching an innocent video of children playing...and that definitely ain't porn..

according to my husband, naked tits are porn..that is a direct quote..
 
TickledToDeath said:
If someone gets off by watching the miss america pagent, is that porn?


In my opinion...yes, at least for that person. But then, I don't attatch a derogatory stigma to the word porn and feel there is no need to censor, outside the narrow confines of material that is created through lack of consent (snuff) or inappropriate age (child porn). However, there seems to be a need to distance oneself from the word, even by people who approve of and view the material. The use of euphemistic language, such as adult, sexual or mature content when referring to anything intentionally created for the express purpose of individual or group sexual gratification, is just that, euphemistic language. This site is not wholey a porn site, but given the volume of the material that would legally be classified as porn, it passes the 51% rule applied to businesses that sell porn. Meaning, if your inventory and or sales is accounted for by 51% or more of adult material, you are classified as an adult business. I don't believe there are any such rules for web sites, but the analogy is sound.
webmaster joe
 
Flatfoot said:
noun
creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire

Well, there in lies the opinion "no literary or artistic value". Shall we debate art? 🙂
webmaster joe
 
isabeau said:
one could say that a pedophile could get off while watching an innocent video of children playing...and that definitely ain't porn..

For them, it is. The majority of any pedophile's collection is what we would classify as non-pornographic. Pedophile's collect anything with children in it: old home movies, children's shows, ect. It's only in recent years, with the internet, that large scale production of what the layman would classify as pedophilic pornography has surfaced. Before that, pedophile's had to get their indirect "stimulation" from non pornographic material and the rare illegal pictures, videos or self published magazines that surfaced. Now, it's a huge illegal business that has joined an even older business, child sex slavery.
webmaster joe
 
I see some porn elements in vagina and breast tickling. But tickling as a whole here I think is geared more toward adult.
 
TickledToDeath said:
It is not what the viewer does while watching a vid or website that makes it porn. It is the content OF the vid or website that constitutes whether or not it is porn.
If someone gets off by watching the miss america pagent, is that porn?

If someone gets off by watching Deep Throat, is that porn?

Obviously that's not the right test. But let's face it, TMF ain't the Miss America Pagent. Pornography is any material (either pictures or words) that is sexually explicit. Much of the material on TMF is sexually explicit. Therefore TMF is a website for people who share pornographic material. Some material on TMF is not pornographic. Therefore TMF is a website for people who share non-pornographic material But at the end of the day, TMF is for people with a sexual fetish for tickling. I'm as sorry as I can be if you can't accept the fact that TMF is a pornography site, but it is.

My recommendation for people with a problem with that is they adopt a healthier, more realistic and mature attitude towards pornography.
 
Forwarded to me as part of a TMF legal consult.

"Pornography" is a layperson's term, with no particular legal significance. One perosn may believe that Playboy is non-pornographic, while another believes that it is. Neither is incorrect.

The term of legal significance is "obscenity", which, after many years of debate and through many cases, the U.S. Supreme Court defined in Miller v. California in 1973. It is a three-part test, as follows:

"The basic guidelines for the trier of fact must be:
(a) whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards" would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest, Kois v. Wisconsin, supra, at 230, quoting Roth v. United States, supra, at 489;
(b) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law; and
(c) whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."

Note that part (a) does employ community standards. However, all three parts must be met for a work to be deemed obscene, and part (c), as the Court has held elsewhere, is a national threshold, not a community test.



So the TMF may be pornographic to some. Not to others.

And we have never been judged Obscene.

Myriads
 
As I mentioned in another thread, if you asked the average Joe or Jane out there, what is the difference between adult erotica and porn, they would say they are one and the same. I think Isabeau's husband speaks for the majority of Americans in this sense. Doesn't mean I agree, but that's how it is.
 
Myriads said:
Forwarded to me as part of a TMF legal consult.

"Pornography" is a layperson's term, with no particular legal significance. One perosn may believe that Playboy is non-pornographic, while another believes that it is. Neither is incorrect.

The term of legal significance is "obscenity", which, after many years of debate and through many cases, the U.S. Supreme Court defined in Miller v. California in 1973. It is a three-part test, as follows:

"The basic guidelines for the trier of fact must be:
(a) whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards" would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest, Kois v. Wisconsin, supra, at 230, quoting Roth v. United States, supra, at 489;
(b) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law; and
(c) whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."

Note that part (a) does employ community standards. However, all three parts must be met for a work to be deemed obscene, and part (c), as the Court has held elsewhere, is a national threshold, not a community test.


So the TMF may be pornographic to some. Not to others.

And we have never been judged Obscene.

Myriads

Exactly.

(From Barron's Legal Dictionary), def Prurient: Shameful and morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion, 230 N.E. 2d 241, 250. It is one criterion in determining whether or not something is obscene. See obscenity

As more and more people develop healthier attitudes toward sex and human sexuality, fewer and fewer people find consensual adult sex, sexuality, and sexual expression "shameful," or "morbid." Thus the definition of 'prurient' is becoming more closely associated with nonconsensusal sex, sex involving children, etc.

That said, it may be true that TMF is a porn site to some and not to others, but there's no denying that there is pornographic material shared via TMF. God knows that's why I'm here.
 
TMF is a tickling site.. yes it has pornographic material, but so does blockbuster.. would you call that a porn video rental store?
 
Chuck D said:
TMF is a tickling site.. yes it has pornographic material, but so does blockbuster.. would you call that a porn video rental store?

LOL Oh come on, man ... LOL

If you need to believe that's a fair analogy, OK. But ... well... OK, whatever.
 
So I guess the Victorias Secret Catalog is a porn catalog/publication if someone gets off on it then?

I don't think so...lol.

Porn is content of said vid or publication or website and the intent thereof.

Gray area calling TMF porn.

TTD
 
AGAIN, for the upteenth time,

Whether something is pornographic is not determined by whether someone gets off on it. You can name just about anything and point to someone who gets off on it. Material is pornographic if it is sexually explicit. The JC Penny catalog, Victoria's Secret, etc., etc. are not sexually explicit, so they are not pornographic.
 
wendynpeter said:
AGAIN, for the upteenth time,

Whether something is pornographic is not determined by whether someone gets off on it. You can name just about anything and point to someone who gets off on it. Material is pornographic if it is sexually explicit. The JC Penny catalog, Victoria's Secret, etc., etc. are not sexually explicit, so they are not pornographic.


That is and has been my point. Content and context! :wavingguy
 
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