So mad I want to yell...

[nycgreektickler]

Some people type faster than they can think.

Last week, I started talking to someone on TT. Turned out I liked (and still like) her personality a lot, and I’d venture to say that I was not uninteresting to her either. At some point we decided to contact one another outside of TT, by phone. We set a time, and I waited for my phone to buzz. It eventually did, but the consequent message I read disheartened me.
It essentially said that she had been speaking to other guys on TT, and one or two of them had been quite…inappropriate in the way they went about talking to her. She proceeded to say that she wanted more or less to be left alone. Who could blame her?
Whenever someone declares him or herself a lee, he or she is immediately bombarded with a slew of messages/requests/propositions, some of them alright, and others bordering on or crossing over into the obscene. It can’t be that these individuals don’t recognize that there are both appropriate and inappropriate ways to articulate one’s thoughts to another person Note: To anyone with frontal cortical damage who cannot filter “right” from “wrong,” you are not included in this group (In case the last sentence didn’t convey it enough, I was being sarcastic).
I understand that, in life, there will always be people who specialize in creating obstacles for others. What really angers me is that, in my case (and probably many others here feel this way as well), it’s difficult enough to meet someone with my particular predilection towards tickling without others making it even more difficult.
I’ve made it no secret (and past posts in the Personals section will attest to my claim) that I am actively looking for someone to meet with for the purposes of any of the following: friendship/tickling/romance maybe (awkward way of putting it, but I was at a loss for a better word). I’m somewhat educated (I won’t say “well-educated” both to avoid sounding arrogant and because I’m still in school), fit, will choose to have fun over just about anything else, and yet none of this has helped as of yet. This is no doubt due to a combination of factors, but there is an undeniable percentage of misfortune precipitated by idiots who make it that much more difficult for the rest of us (us referring to: men, lers, people looking for a relationship, decent human beings, etc... take your pick of any of those).
Chances are that this post will be skipped over, partly because it’s lengthy and rife with complaint (for this I apologize, I merely needed to vent), and partly because it does not include to letters “a,s,l” in that order followed by an “f” somewhere thereafter (just kidding). Those who might disagree with me would probably say: “How can you feel comfortable with someone you met over the internet, especially when there are so many crazy people out there?” To these individuals, I say: 1. I absolutely respect your position, although it’s unfortunate that you are withdrawing yourself from potentially meeting some great people 2. You can break contact any time you like, but it doesn’t hurt to at least give someone a chance and 3. As difficult as it is, please don’t let a bad experience turn you off to getting back out to give someone else an opportunity to get to know you and for you to get to know them (I’ve had a few bad experiences myself, and, although I was peeved enough to create this post, it won’t stop me from signing on TT and being as contributory to the site as I can be and, yes, I’ll admit it, still look for someone to share my extreme like for tickling with).
Thanks to those who had the patience to read this, the kindness to respond, and the open-mindedness to hear my side of the scenario. I hope this did not portray me in a negative light…I felt I needed to be heard though. If nothing else, maybe I’ve captured the feelings of more than one person on TT and helped them be heard as well.

 

[Big_Blue]

That's unfortunate. I know exactly what you're talking about. I read some pretty creepy comments people leave around the net when it comes to feet or tickling. My line of though suggests that these people have raging fetishes who don't think of other people as--well--people. Only some "thing" to play with. That in and of itself can mean that a person leaving obscene comments etc, are in fact people you wouldn't want to bump into on the street under even the most "normal" of conditions. Either that or a lot of people are indeed inconsiderate. I'm sure you have a bit of both but to be honest I'm seriously going along with my former assumption that a lot of people are just so far down the rabbit hole that they are irrational. Possibly the result of too much time online and a pityful desperation to "play" with someone.

In her defense I can't blame her decision. My advice to you is that you continue to talk to her NOT over the phone but online if she is willing to do so. After some time you will both get to know eachother better and perhaps then you can both get together to have a wonderful time. That's how I met my current girlfriend a few years ago. You can't rush these things. In fact, the first time you meet (if you ever do) you should refrain from attempting to tickle her or make reference TO tickling. Go out someplace and have fun, typically where there are other people. This will indicate to her that you aren't a tickling-crazed pervert and that in fact you are considerate of her and respect her as first and foremost a friend.

I hope this helps you out. It's frustrating I know but don't let it get to you. All is not lost yet according to what you've said.

 

[nycgreektickler]

Thanks BigBlue. I totally agree with you (and her decision as well, I'm sorry if I didn't make that apparent in the original post). Thanks a lot for your input, it's appreciated.

 

[i-tickle-your-f]

im angry too

my sister and yourself share the same scenario,

she is a member of IMVU (which is a 3d avitar chat system, something like yahoo or MSN) when she is chatting with someone she usually runs into some male, everyone that she talks to starts off nice, acting like they want to really chat and eventually become friends with her, then all of a sudden "do you like to f%^&" or "wanna cyber" or "wanna f%^& now" its not one or two guys, its every one of them that she talked to on that chat system, now fortunately they put a chat filter so you can now choose which age, language and gender you want to speak with (age group to be more specific) she is also a member of second life and that place is what i just described but X10, (in IMVU you cant take off all the clothes on your avitar, in second life you can) almost every guy there asks the same question, but also strips themselves naked, and what really sucks about second life is that if you want to look something up for tickling, you will get a wide selection of sex shops there (now really, does everything have to revolve around sex?)
im going off topic for a bit here, there used to be a place called the BDSM castle mall, and at the very bottom part used to be a tickle dungeon, but you had to make your way through the various sexual bondages to get there, then they removed all the tickle machines and the stocks for a huge cage that houses sex slaves, now there is the tease and tickle dungeon, which replaces the BDSM castle mall and houses the tickle machines that the mall had but there is rarely anyone in it, when she goes in it, the most regular people you would find there is a naked male (figures right) and once they get a eyesight of her, they follow her, shes so sick of the perverted men on the internet that she turned bi and refuses to talk to any male on the net (almost to the point that shes becoming sexist to men)
so dont feel bad you are not the only one mad about lunitics on the internet, for my sisters sake and for your friends sake im angry too

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

this is really a shame. the hollywood brother feel sorry for your lady friend that has had this expereince. not everyone on here that has a baseball bat between there legs is a turd. it seems like a few jabronis ruin things for the millions of good hollywood brother fans. the hollywood brother understand that people want hot hollywood brother tickle action but it ism ore important to have a emotional connection. The hollywood brother has never picked someone up on this forum for the sole purpose of tickling only. Once upon a hollywood brother time the hollywood brother did meet one person on this forum but the thruth is that the hollywood brother was so nervous about making a good impression that tickle action was far from the hollywood brother mind. in fact all the hollywood brother wanted to do was get to know this person a little better and in that regard the hollywood brother had a great conversation over coffee that the hollywood brother really enjoyed. now if the hollywood brothero nly wanted tickling and was a a hole about it then the hollywood brother would never of had the opportunity to sit over coffee and have a great conversation with someone that the hollywood brother knew would someday be someone for the hollywood brother to be proud of. the reality is that to this day the hollywood brother is very proud of the accomplsihments of the person he met and is still grateful just for the opportunity to have had a conversation. now with all this being said the hollywood brother thinks that if more guys were like the hollywood brother and realized that there is more to a woman than how ticklish they are, then maybe more women here would open up and let us good guys like the hollywood brother get to know them

 

[Big_Blue]

This may be "insensitive" but there's something I have to point out in regards to online chatting. This may be more true for the "furry fandom" than online life in general, but a good deal of people on the internet basically LIVE in the internet. IMVU and Second Life is a breeding ground for those types of people. In my experience a lot of guys spend more time on the internet than they probably spend on hygiene or looking for a "girlfriend." On a lot of chat groups and forums you'll encounter these individuals a lot. These guys will RP the hours away with eachother as both sexes and of course almost every male fantasy will take place in almost every scenario. This creates unrealistic views and expectations towards women in general and they (guys) are inept when it comes to interacting with them (women) outside of the RP. I've seen this a thousand times. As they are rejected time and time again they seek the safety of the RPs etc, with the rest of their friends and become totally disillusioned to reality. This even sort of goes along with many of the tickling stories I read even here on TT. "Okay so like...this chick gets kidnapped in a parking lot in the middle of the night by three dudes right?. They take her to some warehouse and tickle the crap out of her sexy feet for like---three hours and she loves it. Then she gets half naked and lets the three dudes tickle her all over for a little while longer and then they let her go."

...Seriously people, when I read stories like these I can't help but to feel a little disgusted. This can't help out in any good way. It falsely idealizes women as naughty, devilish, teasing tickle toys.

However there are indeed exceptions to all of this--I don't want to say rule but I'm going to for lack of a better word.

I understand that many of you may disagree with a lot of what I've just said, but once again this is based upon my own personal experience.

 

[Dr. Bill Kobb]

Thanks to those who had the patience to read this, the kindness to respond, and the open-mindedness to hear my side of the scenario. I hope this did not portray me in a negative light…I felt I needed to be heard though. If nothing else, maybe I’ve captured the feelings of more than one person on TT and helped them be heard as well.

While a long post, it was well-elucidated, and not only do I agree wholeheartedly, it was a pleasure to read. Fine follow-up thoughts, too.

I've come to view trollishness as part-&-parcel of the Web. It's a shame, but what can you do? I'd just be patient and let this netizen have some room until she's ready to chat again. You seem like a nice guy. I'm sure if you leave the decision up to her, everything will work out fine.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

This may be "insensitive" but there's something I have to point out in regards to online chatting. This may be more true for the "furry fandom" than online life in general, but a good deal of people on the internet basically LIVE in the internet. IMVU and Second Life is a breeding ground for those types of people. In my experience a lot of guys spend more time on the internet than they probably spend on hygiene or looking for a "girlfriend." On a lot of chat groups and forums you'll encounter these individuals a lot. These guys will RP the hours away with eachother as both sexes and of course almost every male fantasy will take place in almost every scenario. This creates unrealistic views and expectations towards women in general and they (guys) are inept when it comes to interacting with them (women) outside of the RP. I've seen this a thousand times. As they are rejected time and time again they seek the safety of the RPs etc, with the rest of their friends and become totally disillusioned to reality. This even sort of goes along with many of the tickling stories I read even here on TT. "Okay so like...this chick gets kidnapped in a parking lot in the middle of the night by three dudes right?. They take her to some warehouse and tickle the crap out of her sexy feet for like---three hours and she loves it. Then she gets half naked and lets the three dudes tickle her all over for a little while longer and then they let her go."

...Seriously people, when I read stories like these I can't help but to feel a little disgusted. This can't help out in any good way. It falsely idealizes women as naughty, devilish, teasing tickle toys.

However there are indeed exceptions to all of this--I don't want to say rule but I'm going to for lack of a better word.

I understand that many of you may disagree with a lot of what I've just said, but once again this is based upon my own personal experience.

the hollywood brother has to think on if he agrees 100 percent or not with you but your case is very well worded and thought out. you have a valid point of view and have every hollywood brother right to post it here for all the hollywood brother fans to read

 

[footkl]

Wow, I dunno about other guys, but I am extremely sensitive when it comes to people thinking I'm creepy. Over the internet or in person. I always want to make a good impression on people, and no matter how pretty a girl or cyber-girl may be, I always talk like a normal person about normal things. The sexual stuff only comes up with girlfriends, usually in a game of "Truth or Dare Without the Dare" 😛 I don't understand those other guys though...

 

[iamnothere]

I fint the chatroom here is almost always fine, most people are at the very least respectful - even the ones I dont find very endearing. But I suppose Im in a different timezone to most, and the usual people on peak hours USA I never see.

 

[Zipddoo]

This is a hard one to sit on the fence and watch. Having been a regular on this site since 2002, and having been out in Cyber Space I can see everyone's point of view here. On one hand this is a tickling site, where people come to talk and see "Tickling". On the other hand, as pointed out above, over the years all of the User Groups have been taken over by Sex Vids, and links to Sex sites. This, to me, has been one of the things that I have both admired and respected about this site and this group, it has not. But unfortunately, as in life, you have to play the numbers. When you see on the Opening Banner for the site that there are Thousands of members, you are going to get a few bad apples.
One of the reasons that I have not been more vocal is that I fall into the catagory of people that don't get the tickling experience at home. Many of us have spouses that are just not into it. But when we come here, we are not always comfortable trying to establish dialogue even though that is why we came here. About a week ago, a new young lady announced her joining to this group. Within a few hours she was subject to more than ten to twenty "Invitations"!
For a lot of us we are not here looking for sex, but just an honest open sharing of a fetish, if you want to call it that. But because of the ones who are way more vocal, we end up saying nothing.
To NYCGREEKTICKLER, I can only say that I feel your frustration, and keep trying to talk to her. If you are honest in your intentions, then make her see that. Don't get impatient, keep getting to know each other either here, or by emailing. When a face to face, or a phone call is finally established, it will be because you have built up a trust and that will make it easier for you both to communicate. Everything comes to those who wait.....

 

[AdamN]

I'm sorry to read of your experience, man. There are unfortunately people out there that ruin it for the nice guys. In fact, I tend to rant about this kind of thing all the time. I've had female friends leave these sites before because of the slew of inappropriate comments, propositions... all that. It's really an unfortunate thing and does indeed upset me.

 

[melanie2]

hmm it's funny but neither here nor on the TMF did i get many lewd or inappropriate messages...those few i did were totally ignored..probably because i'm so vocal about being married etc...sorry this happened to her..she should maybe be a wee bit more careful who she gives out her phone number to..i know i had to learn that..

 

[JackVanderson]

I know what you mean nycgreektickler.
There's alot of those sick kinda people that are always harassing the hell (ususally) out of women and making it difficult for normal people to get ahead. It's rather disgusting.

This may be "insensitive" but there's something I have to point out in regards to online chatting. This may be more true for the "furry fandom" than online life in general, but a good deal of people on the internet basically LIVE in the internet. IMVU and Second Life is a breeding ground for those types of people. In my experience a lot of guys spend more time on the internet than they probably spend on hygiene or looking for a "girlfriend." On a lot of chat groups and forums you'll encounter these individuals a lot. These guys will RP the hours away with eachother as both sexes and of course almost every male fantasy will take place in almost every scenario. This creates unrealistic views and expectations towards women in general and they (guys) are inept when it comes to interacting with them (women) outside of the RP. I've seen this a thousand times. As they are rejected time and time again they seek the safety of the RPs etc, with the rest of their friends and become totally disillusioned to reality. This even sort of goes along with many of the tickling stories I read even here on TT. "Okay so like...this chick gets kidnapped in a parking lot in the middle of the night by three dudes right?. They take her to some warehouse and tickle the crap out of her sexy feet for like---three hours and she loves it. Then she gets half naked and lets the three dudes tickle her all over for a little while longer and then they let her go."

...Seriously people, when I read stories like these I can't help but to feel a little disgusted. This can't help out in any good way. It falsely idealizes women as naughty, devilish, teasing tickle toys.

However there are indeed exceptions to all of this--I don't want to say rule but I'm going to for lack of a better word.

I understand that many of you may disagree with a lot of what I've just said, but once again this is based upon my own personal experience.

Nah, I agree. Hell I got into it with......... pretty much everyone in a story thread because it was a blatent story of a girl that gets tickled (sexually..........of course *rolls eyes*) then raped and out of the comments including the trolling that tried to defend the story, the worst of them all was "Well it said she was getting wet from the tickling. I think she was turned on enough to enjoy it. So it wasn't rape." That statement makes my skin crawl. "She was wet so it's not rape" I don't care if it's unfair to people but in my eyes that is the "Rapist's excuse". You forgot one thing with your shortening of most tickle stories: "Then she has sex forced upon her. All of a sudden she gets magically turned on (thus making it okay....... which by real life standards, doesn't.) and then the woman breaks mentally and lives with the man or men for life as a tickle slave."

I honestly find this stuff rather disgusting. I mean, there are people here on the TT who are always like "Once she's tied down she's mine. OR When I get a woman tied down, I will break her mentally regardless of what she wants"
When I see that all I can say is: "uh... wtf?"
And the problem with confronting these kinda people is that they use the Sub/Dom relationship to explain away anyone that would say that the person is probly a danger to women.

I have two things that I always make sure to keep in mind and challenge the creepy bastards with.

1. "If the lee isn't having fun, why should the ler?"
&
2. "There's a fine line between a healthy BDSM relationship and being in a relationship with a wife beater."

 

[GroovyBaby]

Couldn't read all of your wall of text. To make it easier on people like me, please break up the paragraphs... I lose my place reading! lol....

In all honesty there are jerks in all walks of life. Sounds like she found some of them. I also think some people who don't even have a tickle fetish, find boards like these, and like to mess with people.

 

[Big_Blue]

"Then she has sex forced upon her. All of a sudden she gets magically turned on (thus making it okay....... which by real life standards, doesn't.) and then the woman breaks mentally and lives with the man or men for life as a tickle slave."

Thanks Jack, I did forget that part. XP

But yeah--what more can really be said other than that its unfortunate

 

[Slaver123]

Man, I hope I haven't creeped anyone out. As a male, I'm eager to get right down to business, especially on a forum where tickling or other fetish is the main focus- (and it's natural for a man to get right to the point that way)


In person, women can sense my decency and good will- but on the net, I have no chance to break thru the barriers...

Now, something that CREEPS ME OUT ond OFFENDS me: the legions of fakes on the net, guys or bots pretending to be "21 y/o hot female" etc etc etc How many FALSE FEMALES have I opened up to already??? (it's why I gave up on MySpace entirely)

I'm at the point of giving up on the net entirely- I can kinda tickle myself, so technically I don't need any of you...

...but that's not how I wanna be in life. I wanna be "connected" to people, enjoy all life has to offer (including this indescribably wonderful fetish) WITH friends (and/or lovers) fellow devotees... kindred spirits... I'm trying to open up to people, but very few will open up to me...

 

[Big_Blue]

"...and it's natural for a man to get right to the point that way."

I don't know... I'm a guy, but when it comes to tickling etc. I always make sure that I present myself online as a considerate person. Surely I could " get right to the point", but that would make me look like a perv. You've got to be respectful. When you think about it... In western culture women are indoctrinated to act a certain way. As a result of this they can view men as "authority" over them. I can imagine that this would make them uneasy in the first place. The best bet is to be respectful and friendly. It may be hard but you have to refrain from "getting to the point" otherwise you'll turn girls off.

 

[Dr. Bill Kobb]

It's an adult board, but let's face it: You don't really know who it is you're talking to out there. Be smart. Don't get pressured into anything you don't feel comfy about. Don't give out personal info. You, know, the usual drill.

As for me, the vast majority of people into tickling at least seem to be decent in some way or another. Which is pretty amazing when you consider that the fetish that unites all of us crosses just about any and every socio/economic boundary you can think of.

I dunno.

I'm probably wearing blinders.

 

[Timewarp]

Decency died when we abandoned morals for pleasure.

A pox I say unto you.