the whole forced orgasm thing

[sexypapi]

am i the only one?
i am not really feeling the whole forced orgasm tickling vids.
I believe it is one of those japanese things that kind of caught on here in the west. and now i am seeing it everywhere.
I really love tickling however i am not into porn or anything that really resembles porn (like the good old fashioned naked shaved punnanni money shot while being vibrated while tickled....mmmm nope not my thing.) I realize and accept that nudity is a par for the course and
I know that several fetishes seem to intersect here (foot,bondage,asian)
but it seems like porn has also got a foot hold in here also, which kind of saddens me.

anyone else feel my pain?
to the video producers; why this sudden trend (past several months)?
is it a passing fad or the future norm?

just stating my humble and pathetic opinion.

ps please no smart a!@ comments only insightful ones i am trying to be serious

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

I totally agree. I'm into tickling for the playful side. I don't enjoy videos/clips/whatever that has other stuff thrown in. But, I suspect that the producers have gone and will continue to go where the money is. If that's what people are paying for, that's likely going to be the focus of productions. The same is true for our many talented authors. We write for our own enjoyment and that of our readers. If what gets a response is the more sexual scenarios, that's where the focus is likely to be.

My own personal idea of the perfect tickling material...? Look at Jeff's early stuff...clothed, playful, just having a great time. That's our preference. Everyone has different likes and dislikes. When we buy stuff now (which is rare since we can enjoy it ourselves whenever we want), we only buy that type of material. We simply don't enjoy the rest.

Good topic. I'm anxious to see what other responses you get.

Ann

PS - I'm sure that the fact that strictly porn companies are jumping on the TK bandwagon has added to this as well.

 

[sexypapi]

im so glad that YOU agree with me, being one of the most respected members on here.
I also wonder if the vid producers are actually making that much more money doing this kind of video compared to others. i also see it as companies like all media are having to throw in alot of cheap attention getting thrills since they are offering clips instead of whole movies.

I dont mind seeing the tickling of bikinied or even topless ticklees part of the reason is because fingers on skin make people more sensitive sometimes.

but complete nakedness and strong sexual activities (animals or people liking private parts, camera shots focusing on private parts (sometimes to the exclusion of tickling) as well as sex and oral sex. those are cool and have their place somewhere ...just not in tickling vids.
well thats my two cents

again a reminder pleeeease try not to give any wise acre answers...

ps. yeah i do miss jeff's early stuff as well as ANA and TIB's early stuff etc etc

 

[Cantickles]

Japanese?

Hey sexipappi,
I completely respect your opinion on the forced orgasms clips. However for you to say that its a "Japanese thing" is very ignorant.
Its obvious that tickling is a major turn on for many people, and if follows that someone will eventually mix genital stimulation in their clips.

If you have a problem with it that's fine but blaming the Japanese just makes you sound dense.

 

[sexypapi]

Hey sexipappi,
I completely respect your opinion on the forced orgasms clips. However for you to say that its a "Japanese thing" is very ignorant.
Its obvious that tickling is a major turn on for many people, and if follows that someone will eventually mix genital stimulation in their clips.

If you have a problem with it that's fine but blaming the Japanese just makes you sound dense.

ok hold up back up a min...i dont think i am blaming the japanese for anything. if you know me at all you would know that i have a specific love for the japanese (not just tickling culture and music and history) but if im not mistaken (ive been around the community since the early 90's) the japanese video producers were one of the first if not the first to introduce the electrical devices for external stimulation in TICKLING videos. there was nothing of the sort over here until the last few years. at least not as prevailant as it is today.

most of my argument is with todays western video producers not the japanese

if i came off as blaming the japanese than forgive my initial explaination and take this as a clarification.

and thank you for respecting me yet calling me dense and ignorant at the same time. I love how the internet can quickly dissolve into name calling and inflamatory language in a serious discussion.

one more thing i do not feel that "jacking someone off" is a natural bridge to tickling...i cannot follow there
(after tickling girlfriend: "come here baby, let me stick this electric device into you")
nuff said

 

[Battousai]

A lot of people here do relate tickling to sex. That's the reason pictures and stories about minors aren't allowed to be posted, even if the tickling in them is playful and harmless. It's just a conflict of interest.

Also, a lot of people use tickling as a form of foreplay, so it is possible to go from tickling to sex for them.

I suppose I don't have a preference. I like both playful tickling and the kinkier stuff. Just depends on my mood I suppose. But I'll admit, if it all became nothing but sexual stuff it'd be a shame. Hopefully everyone's tastes will always be catered for.

 

[ViperGTS]

I happen to be on the other side of the fence. Tickling is directly related to sexuality with me (unless we're talking about with family members or children), so adding orgasms to the mix is always a good thing for me.

Forced orgasms are about control. Giving it up, or taking it away.

And the golden rule of all tickling clips and videos: If you don't like the content, don't purchase/download/view it.

 

[aun_existe_amor]

Well, there's a first time for everything, and this is definitely a first ! 🙂

I fully admit to agreeing with viper on this one.

 

[sexypapi]

I happen to be on the other side of the fence. Tickling is directly related to sexuality with me (unless we're talking about with family members or children), so adding orgasms to the mix is always a good thing for me.

Forced orgasms are about control. Giving it up, or taking it away.

And the golden rule of all tickling clips and videos: If you don't like the content, don't purchase/download/view it.

dont get me wrong im not for eliminating or controlling distribution of said videos or clips. Its just that cant seem to understand how or why there is more naked pictures and sexual scenes than tickling on the TICKLING FORUM.
i dont mean to steer the discussion towards the "what turns me on argument"
as much as the "how is relevent to tickling argument"

bye the way thanks for all the intelligent answers

 

[farfarawaygirl]

Forced orgasms are about control. Giving it up, or taking it away.

Agree. And a lot of the "playful" tickling stuff I've seen is also about control in some way or another. The whole language - tickler, ticklee, etc - goes to who is in control, and who is submitting to that control. When you throw sex in there, it's just something that a certain subset of the population enjoys. Like those who have foot fetishes along with the tickling thing. I don't really get that, but I don't complain that too many videos are made with abnormal attention to the feet. (Not that you're complaining...argh! 😛 ) Just...different people like different things, it seems. And it goes in waves, right?

 

[aun_existe_amor]

Agree. And a lot of the "playful" tickling stuff I've seen is also about control in some way or another. The whole language - tickler, ticklee, etc - goes to who is in control, and who is submitting to that control. When you throw sex in there, it's just something that a certain subset of the population enjoys. Like those who have foot fetishes along with the tickling thing. I don't really get that, but I don't complain that too many videos are made with abnormal attention to the feet. (Not that you're complaining...argh! 😛 ) Just...different people like different things, it seems. And it goes in waves, right?

Yep, I think you're right.

Welcome to the forum by the way. 🙂

 

[farfarawaygirl]

Thanks. Seems like a nice place you have here. 🙂 I've been reading the stories forum for years, but just recently started lurking on the more active discussion side. You folks seem pretty normal, so I thought I'd take the plunge.

 

[Thanatos]

I think another part of the appeal is the heightened sensitivity of the 'lee after the orgasm. The victim is usually much more reactive when the ticking resumes.

 

[Redmage]

I happen to be on the other side of the fence. Tickling is directly related to sexuality with me (unless we're talking about with family members or children), so adding orgasms to the mix is always a good thing for me.

Forced orgasms are about control. Giving it up, or taking it away.

I'm with you all the way on those two points. And tickling likewise is about control, so they go well together. Pushing orgasms is definitely about the more sadistic, less playful side of things - using pleasure to make a woman insane is wicked fun. Yet it can still be a very happy thing.

Recently I teased a tied lady past the point of distraction, until she asked me very sincerely to let her come. I said "If I do that, then I get to decide how many times." What followed was wonderful for all concerned.

 

[Redmage]

You folks seem pretty normal, so I thought I'd take the plunge.

Muuahahahaha! Our plan is working perfectly!

Er, I mean, thanks! Welcome to the forum.

 

[Goodieluver]

There are many tickle companies that do not do forced orgasm in ticklings, or have stores devoted only to forced orgasms(or forced handjobs or other sexual matters)

If you dont like forcing orgasm videos then dont purchase them. Its not like the argument some have made how the majority of the tickle industry is based around foot fetishists, forced orgasm\tickling videos is a very small sector of the whole ticklin business

Not to sound like an ass but, does it bother u for in tickle videos, girls are in bikini or scantly clad clothing?

 

[Butterfly wings]

There are many tickle companies that do not do forced orgasm in ticklings, or have stores devoted only to forced orgasms(or forced handjobs or other sexual matters)

If you dont like forcing orgasm videos then dont purchase them. Its not like the argument some have made how the majority of the tickle industry is based around foot fetishists, forced orgasm\tickling videos is a very small sector of the whole ticklin business

Not to sound rude either. But i agree with Goodieluver. If you don't want to purchase and watch video clips/or full videos with ANY porn like sexual matter that the tickling companys put out. Then do not purchase download or buy the video clips/or full tickling videos from them. Find tickling companys that show girls in clothes and bikinis being tickled and laughing thier heads off.

And for the record i personally do not think ANY porn like action or porn like sexual matter (handjobs etc) should be in tickling videos and clips at ALL. But after all most of us see tickling as sexual. So most adults that run theses tickling websites are going to DO what they want. It's about demand and what the people buying the videos and clips want to see.

 

[ViperGTS]

Its just that cant seem to understand how or why there is more naked pictures and sexual scenes than tickling on the TICKLING FORUM.

You're trying to find an answer to the question you have, but when someone gives it to you, you're not accepting it due to it's nature.

The answer is this: Tickling has a sexual overture to probably 80% of the people on this forum. As a result, video producers, photographers, and artists are going to create what people like: nudity and sexual tickling. If we had that kind of spare money (back me up on this one folks), about 80% of us would buy up every single clip and video that involves sexual tickling and "forced" orgasms. The other 20% would porbably pick up a few as well.

 

[kis123]

I personally agree with sexipapi!

But I have my own opinion as well.

I hear a person making an observation and commenting on it. I didn't hear him say what was right or wrong-merely an observation. I'm sure he has the consumer sense not to purchase vids he doesn't find enjoyable, but I'm sure he appreciates so many of you telling him such.

I'm not crazy about the porn mix myself-I enjoy tickling that is playful, fun, sensual, and sexual (in good taste). But it also depends on my mood. I love most of the Dungeon Maiden clips which are 150% sexual, but I feel are done in good taste.

I don't like the forced orgasm ones and I don't like looking at shaved "kitty-cat's" too much either. For those of you who do, good for you-there's obviously plenty of that sort of material for you to enjoy.

 

[babinsky]

Just to throw my 2 cents into the ring......
I was always under the impression that video's, magazines, photo's, stories, where for one thing and that was for sexual stimulation..You know, for "stroke appeal"..Like you don't leave your tickle materials laying around the house, they're kept in a secret place for those secret times..you wouldn't keep your tickle video's out with the Disney Videos.."Lets see. Mary Popins,
The Sound of Music, Aladin, Ticklish Interrogation,....hmmmmm."
So if thats the case, everybody has different turn-ons, and this is no different. I like to see women tied completely immobile and foot tickled..
Now I can't relate to anyone watching a tickling video because "tickling is playful"...Sorry, I can't. To me if you're watching someone getting tickled into hysteric's its to see a sexual fantasy..If not, you might as well watch golf..

 

[sexypapi]

wow its good to see i have so many answers on this thread

unfortunately, most responses just deal with the good ole "if you dont like dont purchase it" aspect. or "it turns me on because everything is sexual so therefore it is relevent"

even though some of you say i have the answer to my own question i still dont get the relevence of forced orgasms to tickling.

I think if you like to watch a girl tickled then a purple bear riding on a unicycle around her while whistling the polish national anthem with a picture of pamela anderson taped to his chest, if that floats your boat then DAMN IT good for you (as i said im not for censoring the videos) but i dont understand its relevence to tickling; same question to the forced orgasms.
I never said i was FOR playful tickling i recognize that tickling can be torture for the ticklee. that said, i dont see how forced orgasms is the opposite of playful tickling i.e. "if you dont like forced orgasms then you must like playful tickling"
any how somebody said on this thread that an orgasm makes a person more sensitive to tickling well if that is true then I can kind of understand it being used in vids. but something tells me thats NOT why its in the videos.

 

[Redmage]

I'm not crazy about the porn mix myself-I enjoy tickling that is playful, fun, sensual, and sexual (in good taste). But it also depends on my mood. I love most of the Dungeon Maiden clips which are 150% sexual, but I feel are done in good taste.

I don't like the forced orgasm ones and I don't like looking at shaved "kitty-cat's" too much either. For those of you who do, good for you-there's obviously plenty of that sort of material for you to enjoy.

Sorry, but you lost me here. Nearly every Dungeonmaidens video includes forced orgasms, and I can't recall any of their models that isn't shaved. So how does this work for you?

even though some of you say i have the answer to my own question i still dont get the relevence of forced orgasms to tickling.

Well, it has been said before, but I'll say it again: Tickling is about control; pushing orgasms is about control. Tickling is sexual for most of us; pushing orgasms is sexual for most of us.

So, how does that not show the relevance of the one to the other? Yes, you can do one without the other. You can also do tickling without bondage, and bondage without tickling, but I wouldn't say those two are unrelated either.

 

[ViperGTS]

wow its good to see i have so many answers on this thread

unfortunately, most responses just deal with the good ole "if you dont like dont purchase it" aspect. or "it turns me on because everything is sexual so therefore it is relevent"

even though some of you say i have the answer to my own question i still dont get the relevence of forced orgasms to tickling.

I think if you like to watch a girl tickled then a purple bear riding on a unicycle around her while whistling the polish national anthem with a picture of pamela anderson taped to his chest, if that floats your boat then DAMN IT good for you (as i said im not for censoring the videos) but i dont understand its relevence to tickling; same question to the forced orgasms.
I never said i was FOR playful tickling i recognize that tickling can be torture for the ticklee. that said, i dont see how forced orgasms is the opposite of playful tickling i.e. "if you dont like forced orgasms then you must like playful tickling"
any how somebody said on this thread that an orgasm makes a person more sensitive to tickling well if that is true then I can kind of understand it being used in vids. but something tells me thats NOT why its in the videos.

Okay, now I'm just annoyed. I've met bricks that were less dense than you.

People find tickling to be arousing. Hence, tickling often leads to sexual activity, including orgasms. Many people who are ticklers enjoy controlling their ticklees. Hence, since forcing an orgasm is an act of controlling the ticklee, and tying down and tickling someone is an act of control to begin with, it's only common sense that the two would go together, if that's what people are into.

But, let me make it simpler.

Tickling is arousing to some people. So is being in control. Combining tickle torture with sexual domination is like getting two for the price of one.

 

[siamese dream]

I've always enjoyed tickling along with teasing/orgasm denial (getting them close and then going back to tickling again) or 'forced orgasm' (I don't completely get this term, isn't every orgasm really "forced" by whoever you're with unless you're doing it to yourself? At least I'd think 'forced' is a strange word for it, the girls in the videos do know prior that they're going to be stimulated to orgasm, right?) I'm more into the stories forum than the video stuff anyway, I have no problem with porn...but I've only seen clips of tickling videos, haven't ever watched a full video.

I mean, this is basically a porn site... even if it's quite mild compared to most porn sites, even if it's a very specialized porn site... nearly everyone here comes to the TMF because of sexual curiousity or a more-than-passing interest in tickling... in general, the material here is sexually appealing. It isn't a difficult leap to see how some of that material would be sexually explicit. Some people like to involve that aspect in their fantasies, others don't. Nothing wrong with either point of view, but to me it isn't difficult to see how the more pornographic stuff is "relevant", it's simply taking the tickling fantasy to a more sexual place. There's a lot to be said for leaving certain things to the imagination, but not everyone always wants that.

 

[ViperGTS]

(I don't completely get this term, isn't every orgasm really "forced" by whoever you're with unless you're doing it to yourself? At least I'd think 'forced' is a strange word for it, the girls in the videos do know prior that they're going to be stimulated to orgasm, right?)

...not always....