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Things Learned from the TMF

Aeveirra

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Hello all! 🙂
I'm posting this to discuss some of the things I've learned from this site, the TMF after being a member for a couple years...

For those who don't know this, one of the reasons why I joined here was specifically to learn about the community, and learn more the psychology of people with Knismolagnia (tickling fetishism).
~~ And yes, that's exactly what it sounds like: Im a Metacognitive Neuroscientist and I have been observing , documenting and collecting data about some of the things on this site to get a better understanding of it all.

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- - - - So, here's some of the things I learned since joining here - - - :
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1) Difference between "Lers and Lees" ��������!!
People can be into Tickling in two ways: As a "Ler", or a "Lee"..
Heh, yeah believe it or not, this is something i had never known about.
I thought that everyone who was into tickling, were only into being tickled. (Heh, Like I am! 🙂 ).
~~ I had no idea that someone could become aroused by tickling someone else.
I mean, yes of course I figured some people like being in the Ler's position, But I never knew arousal from tickling someone else was actually "a thing".
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2) Same trends; and Knismolagnia Psychology ��
~~~ I always thought some of my weird tickle - related quirks were unique to myself. But it turns out... They are very common. AND they illustrate just how powerful this fetish can be for some people.
For example... When I hear the word "tickle" used in conversation around me; I instantly blush, my heart rate jumps up, and I feel nervous / uneasy.
Just hearing "tickle", or any variation of it has this effect on me.
I can't even say it / talk about it with people without feeling embarrassed or uncomfortable.
~~~ WELL....It turns out, this is very common for many people on here.
I never would have guessed that so many other people would be effected by hearing this word like I am.
*** Fun Fact: This type of response is almost entirely exclusive to tickling.
People with Other fetishes are often not effected by hearing words related to their kink. This demonstrates that tickling fetishism has a very strong psychological influence over people.

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3) Tickling Fetishism is uncommon?! ��
Personally, I have never met another person in real-life who was into tickling like I am. But I figured I was just unlucky, and it's pretty common.
~~Apparently, it isn't. Ticking Fetishism actually appears to be borderline-rare.I realized this after reading countless forum posts by people looking to set up sessions, claiming they have never been tickled / tickled another before.
~~~ Also, the majority of people I talk to on here (chatroom, private messaging..ect) Have also claimed to have NEVER met anyone else in real life who liked tickling, and it's a big reason why they came to the TMF in the first place.
.... So wow. Lol, That was unexpected. Here I am, thinking "it's probably just my area", and yet I find dozens of other people in the same situation.
It's pretty sad actually, because people who have this kink really want to explore it with someone else. But, it's almost impossible for some of us to do.
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4a) Girls are more "popular" �� , and (Lers & Lees)
Again, another totally unexpected find.
I thought the ratio of girls and guys would be pretty close. But, no. It seems like guys on the TMF out-number girls. Unfortunately, much of this attention is unwanted.
Like when I sign into the chatroom, I'll be bombarded with half a dozen private chats (all from guys).
What I don't like about this, is the ONLY reason they wanted to talk to me, is because I'm a female lee. Mostly, They just want to RP, and don't actually care to get to know me a person. 🙁 plus, I've realized that girls are not treated so nicely on here so times. I feel like a lot of people view me as little more than tickle-meat, or a temporary partner to let them play out their fantasies with RP/cybering.
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4b) ~~~ Guys and Girls ~~��~��~
From what I can tell, most guys on here are Lers, and most girls on here are Lees. This partially explains why girls are talked to / about the way we are; as we are seen as potential submissive tickle victims by sadistic lers out there! 😛
~~~~ I only mention this, because like I said : I didn't know there was a distinction with "lers & Lee". I used to think everyone who was into tickling just liked having it done to them.
So to realize this gender ratio exists, was pretty interesting.
*** I don't know 100% for sure if this is true. BUT from what I have observed over the past couple years, is that this seems to be the case;
(Guys=lers),(Girls=Lees).

~~~ Theres always exceptions, and theres those called "Swiches", u as I said this seems like how it is from what I've seen.
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5) Foot Fetishism is the 2nd most popular ❤��
Heh, this wasn't a big surprise. After all, foot fetishism IS the most popular / most common fetish in the world. So it makes sense that it would show up here. And here, Especially because although I'm not into feet - I personally think the two kinks (feet & tickling) naturally go very well together! Lol
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6) The Community Itself ~~�� ������ ~
I have to say, the people on the TMF in general - are all very friendly. 🙂
Everyone seems to be open with eachother, willing to talk, and are not judgmental.
I think one reason everyone is so friendly on here, is because most people came here with the intention of finding others into the same thing.
( They came here, possibly because many were unable to find people in real life who shared their interest)
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7) Secretiveness ~~~ ��~
This suprised me: the amount of people on here who were not open about their interest in tickling. I have seen SO many posts of people looking for advice on how to tell their significant other about it. and other posts about how people were afraid to tell anyone - ever.
It surprised me, because I had always been open about this with the guys I've dated. I have never been ashamed, or embarrassed by it at all.
~~~~ So, to see so many others who were - was a little surprising.
Whenever I see a post like that, I always try to offer encouragement; by telling the person that ticking is the best fetish to have! I'll remind them that it is not gross, weird, painful, or disturbing (like most fetishes tend to be) and that it is one of the most normal kinks out there! ❤❤
(That's how I view it, anyway)
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~~~~~❌~~~~~~~~ C O N C L U S I O N ~~~~~~~❌~~~~~~
Theres a few other things I've leaned as a result of being here, but they're just minor things - not very important.
In retrospect, I realized that I knew very little about the community (or about Knismolagnia itself), before I joined here. 🙂 And I feel like I have learned a lot.
~~~~ Id say the most unexpected thing, was how uncommon a tickling fetish is. And that so many other people have never met another person (in real life) who was into it. That was very surprising to me.
I guess it sort of makes sense; because most people don't like being tickled to begin with - let alone are actually turned on by it.
But yeah, I never would have guessed. 😛
Either that, OR the fact that "Lers and Lees" exist. Lol, this is something I have never heard of before joining here. I never knew just tickling another person could be so arousing.
I for one, prefer to being the one tickled.... Tied up... And tickled Mercilessly.
<3 hehe 😉 omg its sooo hott! <3

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~~~��~~~~~~~~❔❓~ Q U E S T I O N S ~ ❓❔~~~~~~��~~~~~~

⚫ 1) Im curious what people thought about this 🙂
Which out of all of the things I found here, were the mot interesting?
- or, what you think about some of these things?

⚫ 2) Have other people learned the same things from here?

⚫ 3) Is there anything you guys didn't know about before joining the TMF?

⚫ 4) ***Remember, these are just things ive gathered from my own observations. I'm not saying they're all 100% true - it's just my postulations.

�� ~~ Is there anything I've said that you think may be incorrect?
Or you have you come to any different conclusions?
Id love to know 🙂
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⚫ 1) Im curious what people thought about this
Which out of all of the things I found here, were the mot interesting?
- or, what you think about some of these things?

I liked all of it!


⚫ 2) Have other people learned the same things from here?

I think this is stuff that's been covered, but it was beautiful reading your own personal discovery of such things! Oh, one thing: the fact that the word is exclusive to our fetish, that's interesting. This was also covered in a thread recently where Tennebrae described that the word did not hold the same power in Chinese (but did in French!). So I think it varies from language to language. "Tickle" - and all it's derivations - is a naturally sexy word to say and even vanilla people can sometimes trip up on it.


⚫ 3) Is there anything you guys didn't know about before joining the TMF?

Yes! I did not know there were 'LEES! It's so funny that you didn't know there were 'lers, because for me it's the opposite....I can't believe YOU exist, or any of the 'lees on the Forum.....all the years I wasted in the wrong relationships, I just can't even tell you how much I'm eating my heart out now! lol


�� ~~ Is there anything I've said that you think may be incorrect?

Nope.

Or you have you come to any different conclusions?
Nope! Well maybe just one thing: I'm not so sure it's exactly uncommon, I think it's more to the degree we have it. Years ago, when stuff like Match.com started, I would search "tickling" and lots and lots of people had it in their profiles, sometimes as a requirement. I've had girls tell me they love being tickled, and even relate it to sex ("it means my whole body is sensitive!", one girl happily told me....gleefully told me!). I also have come across many guys who were "serial ticklers", and have also told guys about this fetish, and they light up, and totally understand it, and enthuse about it......it just never occurred to them before.

But my favorite part of your post is something I completely agree with: our thing is the best! For one....it's sanitary (lol), not painful (as you say)....and it's really not that weird! It's already in the vocabulary of flirting and foreplay, and always has been. I am now very proud that this is what I'm into! And so grateful, SO GRATEFUL, that I'm not into something else, God help some of those people and what they're cursed to live with.
 


ABSOLUTELY!!! I feel the same way, that I'm greatful I have this fetish, and not something else.
There are a ton of weird kinks out there most people are (and rightfully should be) embarrassed about.
But not tickling! It's the most normal one out there, and I'm SOOO grateful I'm into this <3

Btw, that was pretty cool how you didn't know Lee existed.
Hah, I thought the only people who had a tickling fetish were those (like me) who liked being tickled
And your the total opposite! Hah. That's so cool.
Isn't it awesome what we can learn from places like this??
so yeah, I figured id post my discoveries made here. Im Glad you found this interesting!
🙂


But my favorite part of your post is something I completely agree with: our thing is the best! For one....it's sanitary (lol), not painful (as you say)....and it's really not that weird! It's already in the vocabulary of flirting and foreplay, and always has been. I am now very proud that this is what I'm into! And so grateful, SO GRATEFUL, that I'm not into something else, God help some of those people and what they're cursed to live with.
 
1. You forgot about switches

Fun Fact: This type of response is almost entirely exclusive to tickling.
People with Other fetishes are often not effected by hearing words related to their kink. This demonstrates that tickling fetishism has a very strong psychological influence over people.

How is this "fact"?

3. There are many sites that say tickling fetish is very common. Check out the top stores in clips4sale
 

There are a ton of weird kinks out there most people are (and rightfully should be) embarrassed about.
But not tickling! It's the most normal one out there, and I'm SOOO grateful I'm into this <3


Man, now I feel like total garbage for being into other shit! What's wrong with me?
 
Dang....so the TMF is also the Learning Forum??? All good points Aeveirra. And, as always, takes a gal to notice such things (yeh us guys have other things on our minds, us perverts that we be....aarrrgh).
 
Um.. No I didn't forget about switches.
I know they exist....



1. You forgot about switches




How is this "fact"?

3. There are many sites that say tickling fetish is very common. Check out the top stores in clips4sale
 

Hah, well no it's not a learning forum. 😉 I just happen to come across some new info I never knew about before. 🙂


Dang....so the TMF is also the Learning Forum??? All good points Aeveirra. And, as always, takes a gal to notice such things (yeh us guys have other things on our minds, us perverts that we be....aarrrgh).
 
Switch wasn't listed with ler and Lee, and my other points are still pretty valid
 
For those who don't know this, one of the reasons why I joined here was specifically to learn about the community, and learn more the psychology of people with Knismolagnia (tickling fetishism).
~~ And yes, that's exactly what it sounds like: Im a Metacognitive Neuroscientist and I have been observing , documenting and collecting data about some of the things on this site to get a better understanding of it all.

Aha, you're with Sydney University!! :sherlock: :witchy:

Seriously, thanks for all this, and are you thinking of something like writing up these observations to be published in a scientific paper? If so, I hope you'll let us know if and when it gets accepted for publication (would love to see the expressions on the faces of those stodgy peer reviewers).
 
Id love to read the official super scientific write up too. Would love to hear the critiques of how evidence was gathered and how conclusions were met.
 
Switch wasn't listed with ler and Lee, and my other points are still pretty valid

Haha, I had a feeling somone was going to have to point this out to me anyway.

Well... I didn't list it cus It's just redundant to also mention switch. Especially because its' implied that I didn't know about that either lees or lers. So naturally, that means I didn't know about switches either.
I mean.... Is it really that important to say? I thought it was pretty obvious. 😛
The main take-away from my point about this: is I didn't even know people were into being a lee or ler,
I used to think everyone was a lee.



Other points?
.... Right ..... 😉
About how effects from words are unique to ticklephiles? Well, This is something I have brought up before elswhere, when delving into the psychological influence Knismolognia has over those who have it. Immediate physical reaction to hearing the word "tickle" (Or any of its variations) is a unique feature of this paraphillia. This is Primarily because a *significant percentage* of people with this, are phsyically affected by this word. And This is something you hardly ever see reported by people with other fetishes. Does / can it happen? Yeah, Maybe - but not on the same level as it does with tickling.
This is somthing I have been looking into for a while, and I can say with confidence that this is a distinct feature of Knismolagnia. Maybe it happens with another, obscure kink - bout out of the most most common ones, it stands out much more with tickling, and barely at all in others.
~~ And the most verifiable conclusion, is that - yes, this does seem to be unique to tickling fetishism, in that the vast majority of ticklephiles are affected by this word. By comparison, This effect is barely measurable in other Phile groups.
Example; Saying "Latex" to somone with a latex- fetish, doesn't cause the same type of reaction as saying "tickle" to somone with a tickle fetish. It can have an effect, but it's not nearly as common or as strong with tickling. This isn't annedoal guessing either, it's based on over a dozen surveys specifically asking about this.
~~~ Thats also why I think it is so interesting to mention. 🙂
~~~ Does that clear things up?
 
Haha, I had a feeling somone was going to have to point this out to me anyway.

Well... I didn't list it cus It's just redundant to also mention switch. Especially because its' implied that I didn't know about that either lees or lers. So naturally, that means I didn't know about switches either.
I mean.... Is it really that important to say? I thought it was pretty obvious. 😛
The main take-away from my point about this: is I didn't even know people were into being a lee or ler,
I used to think everyone was a lee.



Other points?
.... Right ..... 😉
About how effects from words are unique to ticklephiles? Well, This is something I have brought up before elswhere, when delving into the psychological influence Knismolognia has over those who have it. Immediate physical reaction to hearing the word "tickle" (Or any of its variations) is a unique feature of this paraphillia. This is Primarily because a *significant percentage* of people with this, are phsyically affected by this word. And This is something you hardly ever see reported by people with other fetishes. Does / can it happen? Yeah, Maybe - but not on the same level as it does with tickling.
This is somthing I have been looking into for a while, and I can say with confidence that this is a distinct feature of Knismolagnia. Maybe it happens with another, obscure kink - bout out of the most most common ones, it stands out much more with tickling, and barely at all in others.
~~ And the most verifiable conclusion, is that - yes, this does seem to be unique to tickling fetishism, in that the vast majority of ticklephiles are affected by this word. By comparison, This effect is barely measurable in other Phile groups.
Example; Saying "Latex" to somone with a latex- fetish, doesn't cause the same type of reaction as saying "tickle" to somone with a tickle fetish. It can have an effect, but it's not nearly as common or as strong with tickling. This isn't annedoal guessing either, it's based on over a dozen surveys specifically asking about this.
~~~ Thats also why I think it is so interesting to mention. 🙂
~~~ Does that clear things up?

Not really, since there is absolutely nothing scientific about that conclusion.
 
Ooh really!?! Awesome!
I have a few official lab - format wrote ups of this, but I figured a tickling forum site wasn't the best place to post research articles like that. Hah,
So I just made summary - posts instead.

There were several data collection methods, depending on what was the focus of study.
About 50% were gathered from individual case studies, where certain traits were checked off, and tallied.
About 40% was anonymous survey-based, to identify macro trends.
And the remaining 10% was "other", such as observation notes, and documentation of self-report.
***case studies were the most reliable, because they could be easily calculated, and didn't require theorizing to explain results.

I wish in general, there was more research out there by other people.
I mean... There is some stuff, but it's not a very big selection. And people tend to study boring things.
For this, I was most interested in identifying what differentiated tickling from other paraphillias.
After distinctions were made, that's when I later try to explain the how / why about them by formulating my own theories, based on both data, and my medical background knowledge.


I just think Knismolagnia is such a fascinating realm to explore and learn about.
Plus I'm a bit of a nerd, and I'm the type who finds science fun. Lol
But most people... Don't. So, I don't even bother with trying to make posts on here look "professional".
I don't want to bore people, or try to impress anyone with structured layout.
As long as the post has interesting information, that gets people to think and help better understand themselves, that's all I really care about. 🙂



Id love to read the official super scientific write up too. Would love to hear the critiques of how evidence was gathered and how conclusions were met.
 
Um... How is that exactly?
This is what survey data data and case study observations observations says.

Not really, since there is absolutely nothing scientific about that conclusion.
 
Haha, I had a feeling somone was going to have to point this out to me anyway.

Well... I didn't list it cus It's just redundant to also mention switch. Especially because its' implied that I didn't know about that either lees or lers. So naturally, that means I didn't know about switches either.
I mean.... Is it really that important to say? I thought it was pretty obvious. 😛
The main take-away from my point about this: is I didn't even know people were into being a lee or ler,
I used to think everyone was a lee.



Other points?
.... Right ..... 😉
About how effects from words are unique to ticklephiles? Well, This is something I have brought up before elswhere, when delving into the psychological influence Knismolognia has over those who have it. Immediate physical reaction to hearing the word "tickle" (Or any of its variations) is a unique feature of this paraphillia. This is Primarily because a *significant percentage* of people with this, are phsyically affected by this word. And This is something you hardly ever see reported by people with other fetishes. Does / can it happen? Yeah, Maybe - but not on the same level as it does with tickling.
This is somthing I have been looking into for a while, and I can say with confidence that this is a distinct feature of Knismolagnia. Maybe it happens with another, obscure kink - bout out of the most most common ones, it stands out much more with tickling, and barely at all in others.
~~ And the most verifiable conclusion, is that - yes, this does seem to be unique to tickling fetishism, in that the vast majority of ticklephiles are affected by this word. By comparison, This effect is barely measurable in other Phile groups.
Example; Saying "Latex" to somone with a latex- fetish, doesn't cause the same type of reaction as saying "tickle" to somone with a tickle fetish. It can have an effect, but it's not nearly as common or as strong with tickling. This isn't annedoal guessing either, it's based on over a dozen surveys specifically asking about this.
~~~ Thats also why I think it is so interesting to mention. 🙂
~~~ Does that clear things up?

Nope. You're stating your opinion as fact, but I think many people react to talking about and hearing about their various kinks, especially in a vanilla setting. I also don't know how you can confidently say it's unique to tickling.

Lee, ler, and switch are all very different despite being related and as a scientist, you should know sexuality is not black and white, it's fluid for many as pertains to sexual orie tstion and gender, so to leave out switches is kind of a big oversight.

And wow, over a dozen, you say? How many individuals / subjects? How many were folk you only spoke to through this website? How do you know they reacted in a physical way to hearing the word "tickle"? Did you monitor physical vitals or something or is it just based on what they told you? Are testimonials enough for you to state these things as fact?
 
Um... How is that exactly?
This is what survey data data and case study observations observations says.

How many other kinks did you study, and how many were in each sample group?
Were the questions standardized?

Of that 50/40/10, how many total case studies, surveys, and individual observations were there?
 
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