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Tickle Ladders

It sounds a bit cynical at first look, but there's still a lot of truth in it... 😎

Thanks, del!
 
oh thanx a lot...

haha. i just showed this stuff to my roomie (she's female), AND SHE NEARLY RIPPED MY THROAT OFF!!!

did you know that the male / female style of lonely hearts ads have become a research field of psychologists, and that

1) women write about their looks because they think men are interested in just this

2) men always write about their financial situation 'cause they think women want financial security and not looks?

but if asked, both seem to want something more (at least for something serious, we don't have to talk about one-night stands and sexual affairs)....

somehow discomforted and not sure if it's that simple...


nik
 
Re: oh thanx a lot...

Originally posted by wishiswish (most deleted)
haha. i just showed this stuff to my roomie (she's female), AND SHE NEARLY RIPPED MY THROAT OFF!!!

Obviously. Women do not wish to be confronted with the fact that most women rate men on 1)money/power, 2)looks, 3)everthing else (at most 10%).

So it was a big mistake to show it to her.
 
Re: oh thanx a lot...

wishiswish said:
haha. i just showed this stuff to my roomie (she's female), AND SHE NEARLY RIPPED MY THROAT OFF!!!

but if asked, both seem to want something more (at least for something serious, we don't have to talk about one-night stands and sexual affairs)....

somehow discomforted and not sure if it's that simple...

nik

Yeah! I found it a bit hard to swallow at first but then after meditation and reflection I realised it is 99% accurate.
It's natural.
 
sheesh, when I saw the word 'ladder'...I thought this post might be referring to...well, you know who...LOL 😀
 
Knox The Hatter said:
sheesh, when I saw the word 'ladder'...I thought this post might be referring to...well, you know who...LOL 😀

I don't understand. Who/what is this other ladder?
 
I'd have to agree with Hal, it's pretty cynical, but there's still a lot of truth in it...

IMO the guy's not dumb and he's read Nietzsche, but that doesn't mean he's 100% right.

I'm sure women everywhere will be happy to hear that 99.99% of them are not bitches. (No more than 40% are bitches most of the time.) :blaugh: He's right about the rest of you guys being assholes all the time though! (Not me, I'm the .01% exception!) :angel:

Darwin's theories on survivability of a species tie in with the ladder concept. A female of any species that is seeking a mate with which to procreate seeks the most successful male she can find. (True for the birds and bees, and true for humans on a biological level.) From that point of view, money and power would indicate high levels of success, and would definitely be seen as a plus.

And I suppose if a person of either sex does not find another person attractive, they don't get a chance to demonstrate their deeper qualities to an open-mind. (The first impression has been made, some labels have been applied, and all other input comes in tainted by the observer's already formed opinion.)
BUT... opinions change! Heck, who hasn't heard (or uttered) the phrase, "a woman has a right to change her mind"? And here's a flash, guys change their minds too! (Guys opinions of physical attractiveness can be changed by a woman as easily as getting a new hairstyle, or a pedicure!) :veryhappy

In my opinion that's the thing this guy failed to take into account. He greatly over-estimates what it takes to change an opinion. Once the rating of attraction changes the viewer sees the other person from a different point of view, and the same characteristics that were given a low rating before, may be rated much higher.
 
he *also* fails to take into account women from other cultures. It has been my experience that Chinese women don't adhere to Ladder Theory all that much - at least, the non-Americanized ones don't. They profess to want a much "simpler" set of criteria; a man who is good to them, and hard-working. My wife, for example, fell in love with me even though I found myself unemployed soon after we met, and she's stuck with me through all sorts of financial hardships. Then again, her friend is with an "outlaw biker" and has basically sacrificed all of her friends, family, and former life to be with him despite his lack of money, power, AND looks.

On the other hand, one aspect of ladder theory does hold true for both of us; we married because we were happy with the other's place on the ladder. I didn't think I could find anyone higher up, and neither did she.
 
Tickle ladders? Hmm, sounds like a Mitchell thing! (TMF chatters will get that). That's a rather somewhat off-the-wall observation, but it's... erm... yeah...
 
sole seeker said:
I'd have to agree with Hal, it's pretty cynical, but there's still a lot of truth in it...

IMO the guy's not dumb and he's read Nietzsche, but that doesn't mean he's 100% right.


Ah! so you read philosophy?
Have you ever read Weininger?
 
I only remember one sentence from Nietzsche: "When you go to a woman, don't forget the whip!" (or was it from Kant? 😛 ):whip:
 
Sad but true

This is so sad but true

Weininger:
The attitude of one sex to certain traits of the other can often be applied as a criterion as to how far certain peculiarities of character are exclusively the property of the one sex or are shared by the other. So far, we have had to deny to women many characters which they would gladly claim, but which are exclusively masculine; in match-making, however, we have a characteristic which is really and exclusively feminine, the exceptions being either in the case of very womanish men or else special instances which will be fully dealt with later on . . . . . Every real man will have nothing to do with this instinct in his wife, even when his own daughters, whom he would gladly see settled in life, are concerned; he dislikes and despises the whole business, and leaves it entirely to his wife, as being altogether in her province. This is a striking instance of a purely feminine psychical characteristic, being not only unattractive to a man, but even repulsive to him when he is aware of it: while the male characteristics in themselves are sufficient to please the female, man has to denude woman of hers before he can love her.
 
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