Tickling an outsider

[luvtoez_1982]

Me and a close female friend were hanging out this weekend. She accidentally found out a couple years ago about me and tickling so it made me open up a little bit to her about it (though i've never come straight out and told her that i LOVE tickling) Anyways we are always having tickle fights and this weekend she let me hogtie her and tickle her (2 times on 2 different days!). It was fun but I couldn't get into it all the way because I felt like she was doing it to please me instead of liking it. I feel this victory in the sense that I know that know that I have someone to play with now, but at the same time it feels wierd. Does anyone else get this way when they are tickling someone who may be doing it just to please you versus tickling a ticklephile?

 

[cloudgazer2k]

hey, you never know! maybe she's a closet 'lee.
but i've tickled a few girls who weren't "into it", but did it to see what it was like. i never thought it felt weird to tickle someone that wasn't into the fetish...i actually enjoyed it as much as i always do.

 

[Eternal Tomboy]

I feel this victory in the sense that I know that know that I have someone to play with now, but at the same time it feels wierd. Does anyone else get this way when they are tickling someone who may be doing it just to please you versus tickling a ticklephile?

I know exactly what you mean. I don't feel that way when I'm playing 'lee. If I have a guy (which is usually my husband) playing 'ler for me, and he knows how much I love tickling, I enjoy it just as much as I would with a fellow tickle lover. However, on the rare occasion when he lets me tie HIM down, I do give him a few playful tickles, but I feel weird about it because I know he doesn't really like it, and also because I couldn't EVER tickle him as much as I would actually like to. His tolerance is WAY too low for that!

Maggie

 

[TickledToDeath]

If she hated it............she would not let you do it to her just to please you and to allow you to "hogtie" her at that!

 

[cloudgazer2k]

If she hated it............she would not let you do it to her just to please you and to allow you to "hogtie" her at that!

i agree! the hogtie renders one pretty vulnerable. if she didn't have trust in ya or didn't have some inclination of trying out tickling, she would have done one of the more basic positions, like the y-position.

 

[luvtoez_1982]

If she hated it............she would not let you do it to her just to please you and to allow you to "hogtie" her at that!

very true. I don't think she hates it, but it just feels like she's neutral.

 

[Luv2Tickle69]

It's more than fair to suggest that almost ALL the ladies I've known and tickled weren't exactly fetishistically minded to BEING tickled....in most cases...those who thoroughly enjoyed it only found that out upon my actually doing it. Some others who didn't just couldn't take very much of it (which goes w/ the territory anyway). But, of those who genuinely liked it and would offer me their bare feet almost willingly afterwards usually said much the same thing:

"I dunno what it is...but you've made a monster outta me with this!!!"

...sometimes, it DOES have to be 'awakened' outta them....

 

[cloudgazer2k]

hell, i'm willing to bet 80% of the women who are a part of this neat little forum had similar experiences. not everybody is a born fetishist...sometimes it takes a bit of nudging in the right direction.

 

[lk70]

I can relate to what you say. As a matter of fact, I've been saying it a lot lately myself. There is a WORLD of difference between someone who is willing to indulge you and someone who feels as passionate about this crazy thing as we do.

I'm very heartened by those who have indicated it's possible to draw it out though. I think we need more converts.

 

[tickledorange]

Yeah, I was going to say, if she lets you hogtie her like that, she's got to somehow enjoy it. There's a lot of things I won't even do, no matter who would be happy if I did it.

 

[Luv2Tickle69]

I can relate to what you say. As a matter of fact, I've been saying it a lot lately myself. There is a WORLD of difference between someone who is willing to indulge you and someone who feels as passionate about this crazy thing as we do.

I'm very heartened by those who have indicated it's possible to draw it out though. I think we need more converts.

Converts aren't too difficult to come by.....I think some of what makes that happen is how well the 'ler knows the 'lee in question, and how much trust there is between them. Let's face it....it can be a challenge sometimes just to get someone to trust having their feet on our laps without doing anything TO them; never mind applying some kind of stimulus....so....being mindful of their limitations helps wonders....especially initially. Once they feel more comfortable, it can be amazing what they'll actually REQUEST....

 

[lk70]

Converts aren't too difficult to come by.....I think some of what makes that happen is how well the 'ler knows the 'lee in question, and how much trust there is between them. Let's face it....it can be a challenge sometimes just to get someone to trust having their feet on our laps without doing anything TO them; never mind applying some kind of stimulus....so....being mindful of their limitations helps wonders....especially initially. Once they feel more comfortable, it can be amazing what they'll actually REQUEST....

Ok, how about 'ler converts?

 

[Aragon]

Bondage of any sort with a consenting partner is a trust thing, so she must trust you. She feels enough for you to still be there. Another words, wake up dude, you have a person that likes it more than you think.

 

[tickledorange]

Ok, how about 'ler converts?

These could be a lot of fun. After the guy tickles you once, you could always say something like "Wouldn't that be easier if you tied me up?"

 

[lk70]

These could be a lot of fun. After the guy tickles you once, you could always say something like "Wouldn't that be easier if you tied me up?"

Aha. Duly noted.

 

[Em Es]

Why ask why? Just enjoy the fun!

LuvToez, some of my fondest memories are of tickling girls who were not into "it" but were into me. Obviously if they hated being tickled that much they would have forbid me from touching them. But those wonderful women were just tolerant enough to put up with it because it pleased me. Remember, the most powerful force on Earth is a woman who wants to satisfy a man.

Don't agonize over your terrific lady friend. Rather, thank her, and tickle her some more!

 

[method11236]

Make it fun for all.

If someone is allowing themself to be tied up, chances are they're curious about the whole process. Ask her what she would like you to do and be willing to fulfill some her fantasies.

I actually had the exact same experiences when I jokingly asked a girl if I could hogtie her and found myself 20 minutes later with a pair of bare ticklish feet in hand. Don't be ashamed and go for it. You may not get the chance again for a while.

 

[Em Es]

Right on, Method11236!

Method11236, you said, "don't be ashamed and go for it. You may not get the chance again for a while."

Right on!

Of my many regrets, at the top of list are the times I stopped pursuing women who had not yet said "no." Don't look back at this situation years from now and ask yourself why you didn't continue to go for it.

 

[GirlWhoLikes2Laugh]

I think that it's nice that she let you tickle her especially while hogtied. However, if you get the feeling that she just let you tickle her just to please you maybe you should just double check and ask her if she's sure that it's okay that you tickle her. Just to make sure you know, you don't want to risk messing up your friendship with her.

 

[starfires]

very true. I don't think she hates it, but it just feels like she's neutral.

I know exactly what you mean. I once knew a girl that was ticklish and neutral to being tickled. Tickling didn't bother her at all, except maybe insofar as taking the time away from more interesting things, like reading a book.
I I tickled her on a few occasions, but never tied her up. It is a unique experience, but I'd take an actual 'lee any day.

 

[Icycle]

Ok, how about 'ler converts?

That would be me!

Not long after my wife and I first started dating, she revealed to me that she really liked to be tickled. It took me a little while to understand just how much she enjoyed tickling, but I'm a very open minded guy, so I was happy to indulge her. Besides, it's fun for me too, being able to give her such a great time, and to get her so excited!

Not too long after she introduced me to her fetish, she brought me to my first gathering at qbweaver's where I also met DVNC and jonmath. Since then we've been to many gatherings and munches, and even hosted a few of our own. At the gatherings I can hold my own with the other 'lers when tickling my wife, and I've even been known to tickle other 'lees from time to time. I certainly would not consider myself a tickle-phile like most of the folks on this forum, but I do enjoy tickling a woman who likes to be tickled.

However, I will never be as a good a tickler for my wife as someone who likes to tickle her as much as she likes to be tickled. Often when it is just the two of us, tickling is a prelude to more conventional erotic activities. I rarely have the patience to tickle her for more than thirty to sixty minutes before moving on. With a true 'ler, she can be tied down and tickled for hours!

 

[some1somewhere]

These could be a lot of fun. After the guy tickles you once, you could always say something like "Wouldn't that be easier if you tied me up?"

What is cool is that this is the 1,000,000 post. congrats!