Tickling versus tickling and sex

[john2510]

I'm not into the B&D thing generally... but light bondage and tickling is an incredible turn on.

I recently discovered that in the B&D scene (especially professional)... the B&D is considered to be the event itself... rather than as a prelude to sex.

That strikes me, personally, not only as strange, but sexually unfulfilling. I'm a guy... if there isn't an orgasm somewhere... I'm not having fun.

I would see tickling as an incredible turn on... naturally followed by sex - when possible 😀

I gather from the descriptions of the tapes on the sponsor's site that they don't involve more than tickling. Perhaps that's a limitations of the models, or out of fear of legal issues.

I also checked out the web site of a professional BDSM place in LA referenced here - which wouldn't mention sex for obvious reasons.

Anyone have any comments on this? Is tickling (among the tickling crowd) considered to be the main event... or foreplay?

Tickling without more would leave me feeling rather.... blue 😀

 

[dvnc]

Actually, I've seen folks post here, in this forum, about completing orgasm during tickling play. Some can. Some folks can complete such during bondage play, too. Hell, some can do so with freakin' handbags. Different strokes for different folks, y'know?

It's all about what's good for you AND what get's your partner there too. Not much else matters in that situation...

dvnc

 

[TicklingDuo]

John -

I think you'll find that there are a variety of answers to your question. Some people, myself included, can be turned on and very much fulfilled with tickling alone...though it doesn't always have to be a sexual thing. Other people use it more as foreplay.

As for the video producers...they have to go with the demand. There IS a demand for videos with tickling alone. So, they meet that demand. Not everyone wants to watch sex.

Ann

 

[harvey]

John,

Tickling as foreplay or during the actual performance of intercourse can become an incredible enhancement, provided both partners enjoy it in some way. If the woman enjoys being tickled without sex, she may enjoy it during sex as well. If she does not enjoy being tickled at other times, she will probably find it a major distraction or an outright nuisance if you try it during sex. I guesss this means you probably would not want to try tickling as part of a first sexual experience, unless you have discussed it beforehand.

As for videos, still pictures, stories, and other forms of tickling media, as Ann mentioned, the producers offer what's in demand. It's true that not everyone is interested in watching sex. CalStar experimented with the (simulated) variation of combining sex and tickling way back in "Tied & Tickled 2". Although I have no firsthand knowledge of how this was received, I suspect they got a lot of complaints from the tickling "purists", because they never tried it again that I'm aware of.

If you read a lot of the older posts, you will find that there are essentially two camps within this forum: Those who find tickling sexually related in some way, and those who do not. Those who do not generally do not want nudity in their videos. Those who do often express the preference for total nudity. My personal opinion is that most of the more risque' tickling videos are purchased by horny guys who find sexual self-gratification by watching one or more women being tickled, usually in bondage. For them, bondage is not usually an end in itself, but simply a tool to prevent the ticklee from escaping.

 

[mysterytic]

For Some

Tickling is all about sex. As posted above by Ann and Harvey, there is a wide attitude toward the subject. For me, it is all about sex, and only about sex. I cannot enjoy tickling a nonsexual target.

 

[TicklishSteve]

I think im kind of theh coin on its side as far as this goes.

Initially I was a tickler, and enjoyed tickling mostly as fun, but definately in a sexual way too. Over time,ive found that being tickled can be great fun (if you avoid the feet *shudders*) but then its 100% play and not sexual in any way whatsoever!

Maybe im just odd. 😉

 

[Cinori]

I agree that for me tickling is great foreplay as well as A great enhancement during sex itself. I have tickled women knowing that no sex would be involved and enjoyed it but I'm not going to lie and say A different ending would not have been enjoyable. Hell, if it turns you on then it's sexual right, and if so, wouldn't sex work nicely into the equation?

 

[GuitarPeteTklr]

Different Strokes + Different Venues = Different Approaches

I have met (and befriended) people from this community that stand on both sides of the tickling/sex connection or lack thereof discussion. As dvnc so eloquently said,

It's all about what's good for you AND what get's your partner there too. Not much else matters in that situation...

Within the sanctity of her and My relationship, my partner and I are of a mindset and experience set that acknowledges a VERY STRONG connection between tickling foreplay and sexual arousal. Works great for US, but it is not necessarily the first choice for ALL of our wonderful friends in this community and that is okay too. In those situations, some play style adjustments are often in order, and all is STILL beautiful. No wrong doors, just use what works for you and make sure your partner(s) is/are in agreement and you'll likely have a GREAT scene.
For my partner, the tickling is arousing for her, up to a point, then the tickling acts as a inhibitor to her impending release, stoking intensity, when returning to the more erotic touches. Again...different strokes for different folks applies here too.

For those into mixing sex and tickling, perhaps an even more fun pursuit is tickling AFTER sex! If you can negotiate the delay on aftercare, some ticklees really dig that intensity! Takes ALOT of trust and communication to set up a scene like that properly, generally speaking. Studies have been done to prove that the tickling response is GREATER after sexual release/orgasm. My partner and I are believers and practitioners! *WEG* My partner and I did a demonstration on post-orgasmic tickling at our recent Super Bowl Gathering to select peripheral participants who expressed interest in participating in such a scene. That was also done in a secure room, away from the general gathering population. My point is that discretion and good judgement ALWAYS apply! <smile>

While I enjoy tickling ALL APPROPRIATE FEMALE ANATOMY, my preference involves a female foot fetish, in tandem with the tickling interest. Just like my partner doesn't seek to become intimate with everyone that tickles her, I don't pursue sexual activity with EVERY female who happens to have a well-formed set of feet and will grant the priveledge of submitting to a tickle with me. Discretion, good judgement and all party consent apply here, as well. Still, it is very arousing to me, and I make no attempt to deny it since it becomes obvious at some point, anyhow. I have just come to discover that it is an emotionally safer scene if the female knows these things about me up front before submitting and seeing evidence of that arousal welling in me as the successful tickling session progresses. Muhahaha!

But I digress....

Hope these thoughts were helpful!

 

[Dave2112]

I really think that tickling can go both ways. In private, with someone I'm attached to, tickling will almost always lead to a sexual encounter.

But it doesn't have to, when it comes to playing with friends or in a group setting. I don't feel like I'm missing anything when playing in this context. This goes back to the argument about tickling being solely sexual. Many people, myself included, responded to a few threads on this matter by sharing that our fetishes started before puberty, so I think that sexuality is only a part of it. Of course, it becomes a big part after puberty, but not the sole reason.

But if that's what you are into it for, there's nothing wrong there. Tickling can be a phenomenal prelude to mind-blowing sex.

It's just fun to play once in a while.😀

 

[terorizer]

Sometimes I just want a good salad

I'll have to go with the "both" answer. There are times when I just crave the appetizer and that's enough... and then there are times I want all 7 courses. Just depends on the time, place, person and space.

 

[njjen3953]

GuitarPeteTklr

Pray tell. Who is that lucky lee that you refer to as your partner? 😛

Jen

 

[qjakal]

sIGH...

Fess up Pete...she's on to us...it couldn't last, we both knew it! Q

 

[JoBelle]

Ter and Q, you guys crack me up~!

I join the ranks as one who sees tickling in a few different ways.
Tickling can be:
A)Just tickling fun.
B)It can be erotic in and of itself as an act that is equal to sex.
or
C)It can be a fabulous addition TO sexual expression.

It depends on my partner, their intent as a tickler/Lee, and the dynamic of the situation, like, where I'm being tickled. Some places are just more erotic in nature to me.

Jo

 

[GuitarPeteTklr]

Yep, Busted Q...*WEG*

Charge: Tickle "assault" with a "friendly weapon"

Sentence: A lifetime of dispensing tickle torture to a ticklee of amorous nature when tickled.

Eligibility for Parole: Not necessary

There, Q, that about sums it up...hehehe...she knew it was about her...Most ticklees just aren't as adventurous as jen, when it comes to this stuff. Especially the part about being tickled AFTER orgasm!😱

That really DOES suck for jen, in a way only she can find enjoyment from... Muhahaha!

*GuitarPeteTklr again shreds his way into tickling oblivion*

 

[Ayla ny]

I went back and forth about posting to this thread. but what the heck. 🙂 I mean, we are all adults who come here to explore and share our thoughts about this thing... right? so here goes...

I think tickling is very much like an orgasm. in many ways... physically and mentally. so, that in itself makes it sexual. even when it is just for fun, there is a sexual side to it. it’s just subconscious in that case.

now, I’m not saying that when I tickle my children it’s sexual... no more sexual than when I kiss them (borrowing DVNC’s wonderful analogy again) but tickling or being tickled by a man would be. maybe not always overtly sexual... but it would always be there on some level.

 

[bickee]

For me, tickling is very sexual. Which is why I'm always torn about attending a gathering. I wonder if I'll feel comfortable with strangers touching me or if I'll see it all as play...Oh well, I can always tickle just tickle THEM I suppose!!!

 

[njjen3953]

bickee

I will definately be at Tickling Duo's summer gathering in Connecticut. I really hope you attend as well.
I am also volunteering to be your first victim as I know you like to tickle females. *WEG*

Jen

 

[bickee]

See you there Jen.
TTD, I hope you're there too, I'm ready for you!

 

[venray]

For me, tickling is very sexual. Which is why I'm always torn about attending a gathering. I wonder if I'll feel comfortable with strangers touching me or if I'll see it all as play...Oh well, I can always tickle just tickle THEM I suppose!!!

Let me tell you that tickling is also a very sexual thing for me as well and I was nervous about the gathering and what would happen once there. You find youself with a totally different frame of mind while participating in a "scene" either as a ler or as a lee.

You choose to participate or not at whatever level you are comfortable with.

Just ask venraya... she was a strict ler and I was her only victim until we got there and met these great people. Now..well suffice it to say that she is a full fledged member of our ever growing community and we both cant wait for the next time.

Ven

 

[Raya]

As Ven could attest to, I was VERY nervous about going to the gathering, for very much the same reason. I had no experience with the tickling being anything other than foreplay, as well as concerns that I did not belong (I am now a full fledged tickling addict, I would say, but prior to that, I was primarily participating for Ven's sake) and although we had chatted with many here on the TMF, we didn't REALLY know anyone personally.

Again, it all had to do with the people who were there to greet us, and the way in which they did it. They made us feel so comfortable right off the bat (and that's amazing, since big ttd was in one of the rooms howling like a banshee as we came in. LOL). I would say that the sexual aspect was just held off a little bit.. (until we got home! *grin*)

This gathering was particularly cool as our first time because there were so MANY first timers present, so we all kind of worked through that together, with spectacular results, as you could probably tell from the Albany gathering thread.

well, there's my two cents worth..