Unnerving your 'Lee: How do you Cause?

[CrystalLight]

When it comes to your Sadism, what concepts or methods do you exercise?

Of course it all depends on the personality of the 'Lee, but for those that stick heavily to psychological means of Cause, you don't need much of a difference in mind frame or set.

When involving yourself in potential play or prep before play, do you instill suggestions or ideals? Have you ever been thrown at your own attempts to Cause by a 'Lee who has a better read on you then you had anticipated (or even hoped.) ?

Just because we are 'Lee's doesn't mean we can't return it as much as you people dish it out. =)

We get that you're all reaction junkies, but what is it that you do to really get settled into your craft?

Oh, and another question: Even if not involved in play, are you still seeking to invoke a reaction? Do you exercise similar methods without even realizing it until you are faced with a reaction that you might have sub-consciously been seeking?

 

[-Hari-]

I plan out a person the second i meet them, ticklee, staff at work, new friend, anyone, I observe everyone i meet in great detail, I look for theyre strenghs and weaknesses, characteristics, habits, i judge theyre mentality on anything i find important by swaying the conversations we have in my favour, i find out everything i can about a person, in most cases for me,.. this is just habit. im an observer, i people watch enuf to make it my own sport.

Once ive spoken and interacted long enuf with a potential Lee.. or Ler for that matter, I usually have a pretty good idea what sort of mental reaction im going to get out of them, the physical reaction always remains a suprise. I fashion my sessions around the individuals personality, each is very different and ide be here all day trying to provide you with an example,. When ive had a session with someoen before summing them up properly, its always been a slow start and ive always found it MUCH harder to tap into theyre heads, sometimes a complete failure, Preporation is everything.


Hari

 

[Headsnap]

Unnerving your 'Lee: How do you Cause?

A number 2 pencil, Heath Ledger facepaint and one question;

"Do you know, that in their last moments... people show you who they really are?"

 

[CrystalLight]

Wimps. 😀

 

[Strider]

This has nothing to do with tickling, per se; but during play, I sometimes try and use sound to my advantage.

I was doing impact play with an ex once, had her leaning against a rack with her back facing me and her eyes closed. I took a paddle, just sort of very lightly traced the narrow edge of it down her back so she understood what it was, and then I smacked the edge of it against the rack three times on either side of her head. Other times, when we'd go through our pre-play ritual and she kneeled before me, I'd circle her and swing either my cane or a bamboo instrument I have that looks a lot like a kendo stick. Both make awesome sounds when you swing them.

 

[Diego]

Breaking the victim

1) Always keep in mind that fear and suffering must be anticipated (I was worked like this MANY TIMES by my wife) and I did it to a couple of girlfriends. Once the victim is completely helpless explain the torment in advance (although you will probably surprise her with variations).

Sometimes its useful to show the lee a clip of hardcore tickling (the victim will watch this movie being restrained)


2) Althought the victim knows its role-playing and there IS A LIMIT, let them feel (for a while) that you would not stop.Show her a clock and say something like "I will torture for just 15 minutes" "no mercy at all" The idea of hours f tickling selom worke...you will get bored. Enjoy 15 or 20 minutes of utter tickle torture and see.

3) Bring another ler to the scenario. I was tortured like this for one birthday. A nice hotel, tied up, helpless at my wifes mercy...someone knocking the door....another beautiful woman. She comes, presents herself as a torturer...and...HELL.

If the le is not that ticklish (and wants to suffer) go through a delicious assortment of feet torture (my favorite) Bitting, toe squeezing, canning and other delights (be careful)

I hope this is useful
Best
Diego

 

[BrightEyes1082]

This has nothing to do with tickling, per se; but during play, I sometimes try and use sound to my advantage.

I was doing impact play with an ex once, had her leaning against a rack with her back facing me and her eyes closed. I took a paddle, just sort of very lightly traced the narrow edge of it down her back so she understood what it was, and then I smacked the edge of it against the rack three times on either side of her head. Other times, when we'd go through our pre-play ritual and she kneeled before me, I'd circle her and swing either my cane or a bamboo instrument I have that looks a lot like a kendo stick. Both make awesome sounds when you swing them.

That

is

hot.

 

[Artoo]

Sensory deprivation can go a long way, in my opinion. Blindfolds, for example. Not being able to see where an attack might come from puts the lee in a very vulnerable position, and don't they just know it!

I found this a while back - it's called a mindfold (or a mindfuck blindfold 😀). It has cutouts on the inside so that although the lee cannot see through the blindfold, they are still able to keep their eyes wide open, and see nothing but darkness.

 

[CrystalLight]

Sensory deprivation can go a long way, in my opinion. Blindfolds, for example. Not being able to see where an attack might come from puts the lee in a very vulnerable position, and don't they just know it!

I found this a while back - it's called a mindfold (or a mindfuck blindfold 😀). It has cutouts on the inside so that although the lee cannot see through the blindfold, they are still able to keep their eyes wide open, and see nothing but darkness.

Bella has one of those. I've had the pleasure of never going anywhere near it.

Strider.. Holy. Fucking. Nicely. Done.

 

[Strider]

That

is

hot.

Strider.. Holy. Fucking. Nicely. Done.

Thanks to both of you for the props (I had some pretty good teachers)

 

[CrystalLight]

Thanks to both of you for the props (I had some pretty good teachers)

Okay, now give me an example as per tickling, please? 😀 😀

 

[Capnmad]

Unnerving your 'Lee: How do you Cause?

Heh. Someone's been talking to Myriads. 🙂

 

[Redmage]

Once upon a time, I was playing with a young woman in a hotel room. Hotel beds are often lousy for bondage, as they tend to lack tie-down points. My solution for this at the time was to a lot of iron.

I got my victim (er, partner) naked, and tied her wrists behind her and her ankles together. I sat her on the bed and gagged her. Then I took out a bag full of galvanized iron pipes that I had previously stashed in the closet. Each pipe was about an inch in diameter and about two and a half feet long.

I began screwing the pipes together using threaded connectors as the young lady watched, and it began dawning on her that she was naked and helpless in a hotel room with a guy who was building something out of iron pipes. Her eyes above the gag got bigger and bigger as each section was added. She was clearly reconsidering her place in this whole plan.

Finally I had two iron bars, each about 7 feet long. I slipped one under the head of the bed and the other under the foot so the ends stuck out to either side, and there were my tie-down points. Then I looked at her and said, "You didn't really think I was going to hurt you with those, did you?" Fortunately for me, looks cannot actually kill.

Hmm. Other ways I like to unnerve bottoms...

Well, knives are fun. (Yep, that's me.)

With tickling, well, I usually have to be gentler than that. But there are still ways.

 

[CrystalLight]

Heh. Someone's been talking to Myriads. 🙂

I'm not sure what precedence that holds to the OP. 😕

But, yes. If you have seen Myriads' posts referring to sadism or acts of, he favors the word 'cause', as do some others. 🙂

I began screwing the pipes together using threaded connectors as the young lady watched, and it began dawning on her that she was naked and helpless in a hotel room with a guy who was building something out of iron pipes. Her eyes above the gag got bigger and bigger as each section was added. She was clearly reconsidering her place in this whole plan.

Finally I had two iron bars, each about 7 feet long. I slipped one under the head of the bed and the other under the foot so the ends stuck out to either side, and there were my tie-down points. Then I looked at her and said, "You didn't really think I was going to hurt you with those, did you?" Fortunately for me, looks cannot actually kill.

Oho.. Fuck that. Poor girl. You're lucky she didn't Houdini her way out and beat your ass. 😀

With tickling, well, I usually have to be gentler than that. But there are still ways.

Elaborate?

As per the images:

- Where were they taken?

- Is that remote thingiee on her hip an adjuster of some sort?

- What type of bondage is that in the first handful of pictures? The ones with the rope around her breasts and halter style around her neck?

- Why do you look so..not happy in those images?

 

[xionking]

I present the 'tickling fetish' to unaware potential /lees as something fun and playful. I do this without admitting that I have a tickling fetish. The 'We should try this" approach, and make the first time lots of fun and not too overbearing for the /lee.

So, if it comes round that I have that /lee at my mercy for a second time, I can make it a little more intense each time.

Next week, folks, my scheming plan to conquer the world.

-Xionking

 

[Redmage]

Oho.. Fuck that. Poor girl. You're lucky she didn't Houdini her way out and beat your ass. 😀

Houdini out of my bondage? Luck had nothing to do with it. 😉

But, seriously, she enjoyed it once her heart rate returned to normal. And you DID ask about unnerving a bottom.

Elaborate?

With tickling, assuming there's no other type of BDSM involved, you have to do mostly subtler stuff.

For example I love bilateral symmetry. I love the look on my 'lee's face when, after tickling the bejabbers out of her left foot I can look over to the other corner of the bed and say, "Oh, look! Another one!"

But my favorite lately came when I'd been tickling my favorite 'lee until she told me she'd do ANYTHING if I'd stop using the mascara brush on her toes. So I picked up a feather, told her to turn her head, and hold it there for me while I put the feather to work on her ears and the sides of her neck. 🙂

Good times.

As per the images:

- Where were they taken?

In the bedroom of the lady in question.

It was an unusual situation. The woman was a prostitute in Santa Cruz. She wanted to do some BDSM photos for her website. We met at a party and worked out a scene/shoot, and that's what you see there. It was a real scene; she had a friend photograph it while we played.

- Is that remote thingiee on her hip an adjuster of some sort?

Yep. The cord leads to a bullet-vibe inside her.

- What type of bondage is that in the first handful of pictures? The ones with the rope around her breasts and halter style around her neck?

There are two chest harnesses in that set. This one and this one. Both are done with one piece of rope. The style in the first one is loosely Japanese, while the second is more western or "fusion" style. The technical name for that kind of tie is just "chest harness" or "breast bondage."

- Why do you look so..not happy in those images?

Well, I do tend to be very focused when I play. But I think I tend to look grim or serious just in general. For instance, this is me smiling.

 

[nostradamas]

I present the 'tickling fetish' to unaware potential /lees as something fun and playful.
So, if it comes round that I have that /lee at my mercy for a second time, I can make it a little more intense each time.-Xionking

Are you suggesting that whipping out a knife and holding it up to her face isn't "fun and playful"?

I, personally, like the ol' lighter fluid and playing with matches bit. But be careful, kids! That's a dangerous combination!
You might accidentally start your mullet on fire. So Fire Marshall Bill sez: Keep a fiver of H2O and a FaHa Faha Faha-ire extinguisher handy !!

 

[Headsnap]

Wimps. 😀

Don't make me show you my "pencil" trick.

 

[BellaRisa]

Bella has one of those. I've had the pleasure of never going anywhere near it.

Not yet

 

[CrystalLight]

Houdini out of my bondage? Luck had nothing to do with it. 😉

But, seriously, she enjoyed it once her heart rate returned to normal. And you DID ask about unnerving a bottom.

Yeah. My natural knee-jerk reaction would've been "KILL", too. 😀

For example I love bilateral symmetry. I love the look on my 'lee's face when, after tickling the bejabbers out of her left foot I can look over to the other corner of the bed and say, "Oh, look! Another one!"

Have you ever deployed psychological methods?

But my favorite lately came when I'd been tickling my favorite 'lee until she told me she'd do ANYTHING if I'd stop using the mascara brush on her toes. So I picked up a feather, told her to turn her head, and hold it there for me while I put the feather to work on her ears and the sides of her neck.

That ain't even right.

The technical name for that kind of tie is just "chest harness" or "breast bondage."

So, the key is to make the breasts stick out more? Can't that be done without the harness style?

Well, I do tend to be very focused when I play. But I think I tend to look grim or serious just in general. For instance, this is me smiling.

If I cock my head to the side and squint, I can kinda see it. 😀

Don't make me show you my "pencil" trick.

Hush, you. 😛

Not yet

Don't make me come over there!! 😀

 

[BellaRisa]

Don't make me come over there!! 😀

I've been asking you to come over here. I'm waiting

 

[ViperGTS]

Unnerving a lee....oh boy. One of my favorite parts of lering.

The bondage is a big part of the mind play. As the knots are being tied, and the ropes are getting progressively tighter around my victim's limbs, I like to look her in the eyes. Tying knots is easy, and I can't tell you how delicious it is to watch her eyes widen as I yank on a knot rope that suddenly makes her arms completely immobile.

Throwing in an occassional evil chuckle as she gets that "deer in the headlights" look usually gets a squirm or two, as well.

Eye contact is important. After the bondage is complete, I like to walk around the table (you all know the table I use) or I stand back off the edge of the bed, looking down at my partner, smiling. You lees know the look I am talking about - the devious, predatory look that sends a chill down your immobile, helpless body.

Occasionally, I also fancy leaning down close to my partner's head, and whispering into her ear, something to the effect of, "you're mine now, little darling....all mine...to do with as I please..." as I slowly slide a fingertip or two lightly down her bicep or ribcage.

A gag sometimes helps with the mindfuck. Especially when my partner tries to say, "fuck you, asshole" and it comes out "mpphck oo achoole." Making fun of my partner's helplessness always leads to more screams later on.

 

[Headsnap]

Hush, you. 😛

I refuse to do so and it is outwith your remit to make me. Now watch the pencil....

 

[Redmage]

Yeah. My natural knee-jerk reaction would've been "KILL", too. 😀

I've always said that bondage is safety equipment.

Have you ever deployed psychological methods?

Hmm. I'd have said that everything I've told you about is a psychological method - even the knife. So since you're asking maybe we mean something different by that?

That ain't even right.

She wanted me to stop tickling her feet, and I like tickling her neck, so we made a deal. How could that be wrong?

So, the key is to make the breasts stick out more? Can't that be done without the harness style?

Yes, there are several ways to do breast bondage. The goal is generally to make the breasts more prominent and/or more sensitive. Sometimes there's an SM element, when the breasts are tied very tightly (I think you saw an example of that in a recent thread about nose-tickling). I didn't want to do anything quite that heavy-duty with her, since she didn't like to play that hard.

Of the main forms of breast bondage, though, a chest harness of some sort is among the most comfortable for the bottom. That's because the harness supports the breast ropes and prevents them from sliding. If you don't do it that way then usually you have to do it very tightly or else do something really exotic. The harness style doesn't have to be comfortable, but you at least have the option that way. Besides, I think they're pretty. That last one is mine, by the way. The others aren't. And you can see that compared to some the harnesses I was using in the set with Faye were really fairly light and simple.

Don't make me come over there!! 😀

I think we all want you to come over wherever we are.

 

[CrystalLight]

I've always said that bondage is safety equipment.

Yes. In a roundabout way it is. It prevents the person from hurting themself or others.

Hmm. I'd have said that everything I've told you about is a psychological method - even the knife. So since you're asking maybe we mean something different by that?

Yes. Vocally is what I'm referring to.

And you can see that compared to some the harnesses I was using in the set with Faye were really fairly light and simple.

Y'know, I've seen those really tight styles and just don't understand the appeal. Tits aren't supposed to be wrapped that tight.

I think we all want you to come over wherever we are.

Trust me. No you don't.

Fear me.

I've been asking you to come over here. I'm waiting

I like the element of surprise. 😀