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US says merry christmas to poor and sick

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GENEVA (Dec. 20) - The United States Friday effectively blocked agreement on a global pact to allow poor countries to buy cheap drugs to tackle epidemics such as AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis, diplomats said.

Envoys going into a late-night meeting at the World Trade Organization (WTO) just an hour before the deadline for an accord on the highly sensitive issue said there would be no deal, but talks would probably be resumed in the New Year.

They said that after a day of negotiations and intensive consultations with capitals to bend WTO patent rules, word had come from Washington that it could not agree to a compromise text because it was "too flexible."

They said the United States felt it could be interpreted as meaning drug patents could be ignored on treatments for a wide range of diseases.

In Washington, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick said in a statement his country would continue to work with other WTO members to try to find a solution and said it would not challenge any country that broke WTO rules to export generic versions of patented drugs to poor countries that needed them.

"The United States has worked intensively to find a solution that will provide life-saving drugs to those truly in need, and will continue to work toward that end," Zoellick said.

The statement said the scope of the proposed pact in Geneva went beyond what countries agreed to last year in Doha, Qatar.

In talks over the past year, "some WTO members" and advocacy groups had tried to expand the "poor country epidemic" focus of the Doha declaration to allow much wealthier nations to override a wide range of drug patents, the statement said.

In a separate statement, the U.S. pharmaceutical industry said it supported the U.S. moratorium on dispute settlement actions against drug patent violations to help poor countries.

One non-governmental organization (NGO) campaigning for a deal in Geneva accused major powers of being driven by the interests of their pharmaceutical firms rather than by humanitarian considerations.

The group, Medecins sans Frontieres (MSF), said that when talks resumed, the United States and others like Switzerland and the European Union -- both of whom had accepted the draft -- should rethink their positions.

They must accept "a fair text that gives priority to people's health," MSF declared.

The failure, which could seriously rebound on the current Doha Round of overall free trade negotiations in the WTO, had been predicted earlier by several diplomats.

"I don't see the Americans giving in," said an Asian envoy. "They are under too much political pressure in Congress."

AFRICAN DISEASES ONLY NOT ACCEPTABLE

Envoys from other regions said a suggestion that an accord could specifically list only African diseases was not acceptable.

"We are developing countries too," said a negotiator from a small Latin American nation.

The outcome of the talks was likely to sour further the Doha Round atmosphere, already tense over problems in agriculture, where WTO countries have been officially described as "miles apart," and over failure to reach another agreement also by Friday on special treatment for poorer developing states.

Poorer countries wanted the drug deal to allow them to order copies of drugs developed by major pharmaceutical firms based in richer states from manufacturers in countries like India, Thailand and Brazil.

They saw an agreement as a touchstone of the sincerity of assurances from the big trading powers that they would emerge winners from the round.

Some diplomats from Africa, Asia and Latin America said that without a drugs agreement, they would not agree to compromise on other issues in the round whose success the big powers -- especially the United States -- see as vital to boost global business.

An outline drugs accord was first approved at a WTO ministerial conference in Doha 13 months ago, clearing the way for agreement to launch the new round aimed at lowering barriers to trade in goods and services.

But since then, efforts in several meetings between the key players have failed to hone down details into a pact pleasing all sides.

2nd article:

An Anti-Life Crusade
Editorial from The New York Times

Asia is expected to be the site of the next AIDS explosion. Yet at a United Nations population conference in Bangkok this week the American delegation tried to block an endorsement of condom use to prevent AIDS. It's not often that a vote is taken at a U.N. meeting, where consensus is usually the goal. But this time participants voted -- and the other nations united in striking down the American position.

By now, embarrassing behavior by the Bush administration at international meetings on women, health and the environment has become almost routine. The consequences, however, go beyond resentment and ridicule. Mr. Bush has concluded that family planning and sex education abroad -- including AIDS education -- can be sacrificed to please the far right without angering Americans who want to keep abortion legal here. Assistant Secretary of State Gene Dewey said in Bangkok that the U.S. "supports the sanctity of life from conception to natural death," a statement, we suspect, the administration would not dare make with the cameras rolling at home.

Washington tried to strike from the conference's document endorsements of "reproductive health service" and "reproductive rights" because these can include abortion and abortion counseling in nations where the procedure is legal. The United States also objected to promoting condom use among adolescents to prevent AIDS, on the theory that it encourages underage sex. Abstinence is the goal, says the administration. But there is plenty of evidence that teaching abstinence doesn't work -- and the alternative for young women in Asia is not only pregnancy but, increasingly, AIDS.

Teenage girls get AIDS largely because they are pressured into sex by older men. To deny them access to condoms and counseling about how to negotiate safe sex is a deadly strategy. Whatever the Bush administration believes about when life begins, it should not advocate measures that increase the possibility it will end in early adulthood.


To explain this more clear, the US is REFUSING to let poor countries make cheap drugs so their people can afford them, because it would interfere with US based pharmacuital companies profits.
 
*sigh*

*I want to help you!! I need help, but I will help you instead*!! *I ONLY have eyes for YOU!* 🙄
 
how sweet, I think there's a certain young man angling for a dance with August... 😛 😉
 
Hmmm...

Greed? No. Concern for the Well Being of AMERICA, and not someone else for a change?? Yes.
 
Re: Hmmm...

Krokus said:
Greed? No. Concern for the Well Being of AMERICA, and not someone else for a change?? Yes.


We always come to the rescue of the poor of the world and provide them with billions of dollars in food, clothing, amd medicine.

At the same time, the poor and needy right here in America have been overlooked and ignored by the very Government that comes to the rescue of everybody else.
 
We always come to the rescue of the poor of the world and provide them with billions of dollars in food, clothing, amd medicine.

<smaks head> does anyone even read the articles?
 
august spies said:
GENEVA (Dec. 20) - The United States Friday effectively blocked agreement on a global pact to allow poor countries to buy cheap drugs to tackle epidemics such as AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis, diplomats said.

So, these countries, through their own poor planning/education/social cultures and resource allocation, NOW need to be bailed out by those that spent untold billions of speculative investment dollars and time?


One non-governmental organization (NGO) campaigning for a deal in Geneva accused major powers of being driven by the interests of their pharmaceutical firms rather than by humanitarian considerations.

Upset because the goods they want aren't being given to them at a price low enough so they can black market them for a fortune...


AFRICAN DISEASES ONLY NOT ACCEPTABLE

Envoys from other regions said a suggestion that an accord could specifically list only African diseases was not acceptable.

"We are developing countries too," said a negotiator from a small Latin American nation.

Translation: "Where's our freebie stuff? You're giving it to other kids...err..countries?"

Poorer countries wanted the drug deal to allow them to order copies of drugs developed by major pharmaceutical firms based in richer states from manufacturers in countries like India, Thailand and Brazil.

And I'm sure they'll promise not to resell it.....and their word is indeed their bond!"

An Anti-Life Crusade
Editorial from The New York Times

Asia is expected to be the site of the next AIDS explosion. Yet at a United Nations population conference in Bangkok this week the American delegation tried to block an endorsement of condom use to prevent AIDS. It's not often that a vote is taken at a U.N. meeting, where consensus is usually the goal. But this time participants voted -- and the other nations united in striking down the American position.

By now, embarrassing behavior by the Bush administration at international meetings on women, health and the environment has become almost routine. The consequences, however, go beyond resentment and ridicule. Mr. Bush has concluded that family planning and sex education abroad -- including AIDS education -- can be sacrificed to please the far right without angering Americans who want to keep abortion legal here. Assistant Secretary of State Gene Dewey said in Bangkok that the U.S. "supports the sanctity of life from conception to natural death," a statement, we suspect, the administration would not dare make with the cameras rolling at home.

Cripes, if you have inside "truth" on the incredibly complex issue of abortion, you should share these revelations with the millions upon millions of people who struggle with this every week. You can read the same information used to support both sides of the discussion. I'm SURE the UN is the place to solve this, without a doubt.




Teenage girls get AIDS largely because they are pressured into sex by older men.

THAT must have been one expensive study. Perhaps if they stop commisioning idiotic research they might have some money to throw at their problems.

To explain this more clear, the US is REFUSING to let poor countries make cheap drugs so their people can afford them, because it would interfere with US based pharmacuital companies profits.


Yeah...if you allow this, it certainly will provide the incentive for further research and development of drugs, as well as reward those who have done the actual "work" that brought these drugs into existence. Playing the "people are dying card" is very easy though, and gives one the moral high ground to shout down any who dare disagree. Looking into the root causes that brought these epidemics about would mean criticizing some crappy government other than the US though...unacceptable.

 
Ok Who Cares?

The rest of the world owes US, not the other way around. They exist as seperate entities only so long as we let them. We destroyed the last three threats to most of these nations, and we did it pretty much on our own. It's about time the rest of the world picked up the slack. Hell the rest of the world should be happy we're considering helping out someone, vice demanding the tribute they OWE us.


Tron
 
ok u made me do it, tron i dont think you enven understand the origional article, but i think tab does.

OK, just imagine this, your a congolese citizen, your ancesters were taken by the west and sold into slavery.

The belgians came and brutaly colonizied your country, they set up tar plantations and used slave labor, your great gradfathers hands were cut off, for not producing enough tar for export.

Finally the Belgians leave in 1960, and your grandfather begins working with the pro democracy movements, headed by patrice lumumba. Lumumba is elected and in a glimmer of hope you think that your countries mass resource base will actually be used to benifit its people.

The CIA stages a military coup in 1961 and murders the elected Lumumba, your grandfather is tortured to death, along with thousands of other democracy supporters in the years to follow.

Dictator Joeseph Mobutu rules the country will an iron first for more than 30 years. in the process he steals an estimated 2 billion dollars from the people, all with the support of the West, mainly the US. foriegn companies are allowed full acess to rape and plunder your land for resource extraction, anyone who speaks up is killed.

anyway, point being, you contract AIDS or another illness, but the US through the WTO says your not allowed to make medicine to treat your illness because it interferes with the profits of US companies(which it doesnt) so they tell you, you cant make your own medicine because of patent rights.

So you look back at americas generous history, and think to yourself, you know what, they gave us enough, so ill just die a slow and painful death instead of looking for generic drugs, because i dont want to interfere with the rich elite of the west, they need that million dollar car.
 
o yea, lets not forget another reason you are so poor, other than handouts from the us, mobutu got many loans from capitalist banking institutions like the IMF, which is basically controlled by the us.

Mobutu used that money to buy more weapons to kill your people, and than stole the rest.

however there is no health budget or adaquate school system, because what little money your new government takes in, goes back to the Western bankers. so borrowed by the rich, paid back by the poor.
 
Hmm

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